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  • midi82 11 Jul 2013 10:56:55 673 posts
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    It could be worse though,
    I heard a story from my mate the other day that someone he worked with had done the C2W scheme and got his thousand pounds and didn't spend it on a bike, just kept it as spending money.
    I'm not quite sure what will happen when he gets to the end of the scheme.
    I guess having to pay a few hundred quid won't go down too well as he won't be able to return the bike. Oops
  • elstoof 11 Jul 2013 10:58:06 7,739 posts
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    Your payments are deducted from your pay before income tax and NI is deducted so you are basically getting a discount according to your tax bracket.
  • andytheadequate 11 Jul 2013 11:05:11 8,267 posts
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    I understand the benefits of the tax deduction, but if you buy a 800 bike and get it for 600 (for example), and are then required to pay a lump sum at the end of your repayments to own the bike, then surely the overall benefit is practically nothing? Unless your employer sells the bike very cheaply to you
  • elstoof 11 Jul 2013 11:12:33 7,739 posts
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    You don't get given cash though, the schemes send you a voucher or your company purchaser will pay for the bike directly. In any case, your employer will want an invoice for the 1000 pound asset they've just bought before handing over cash so I think your mate is telling you porky pies.

    Andy, you're essentially right. It's a loan at a very good rate to get you cycling when otherwise you might not be able to afford to.
  • MikeP 11 Jul 2013 11:17:26 1,938 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    Sounds like a pinch flat, also called a snake bite, from the pothole. The pressure of the rim against the ground causes two holes, one either side of the tube. I'm guessing you patched one and left the other.
    I've been getting lots of these, as far as I can tell. Wondered whether I was inflating the tyres too much for the state of the roads where I cycle? I'm also having trouble with these glueless patches...I keep my bike in the conservatory and in the hot weather, these are heating up and slipping, causing the tyres to deflate (I think anyway...!).
    Pinch flats are normally caused by the pressures being too low in the tyres, not too high. If the tyres are hard you limit the amount the tube can be compressed, minimising the chance of a pinch flat.

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  • MikeP 11 Jul 2013 11:19:15 1,938 posts
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    If you have the capital to buy the bike outright, you're pretty much always better off going direct to the retailer now, and as Elstoof says, trying to negotiate a cash discount.

    The scheme offers nothing like the benefit it did when it was first set up.

    Edited by MikeP at 11:19:30 11-07-2013

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  • Dougs 11 Jul 2013 11:19:51 68,381 posts
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    Ah well, not that then - they're at the max. Must have missed something in the tyre...
  • Trafford 11 Jul 2013 11:28:15 5,877 posts
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    A lot depends on your company.
    Is there a person there who will actually give a hoot after 12 months?

    My firm just write a cheque after we submit a bike shop invoice and take it out of our gross wage over a year, a little backwards but that's my company.
    I've done this 5 times now, I'm all clear at the moment but do fancy a new frame.
  • pistol 11 Jul 2013 11:51:56 13,019 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    Sounds like a pinch flat, also called a snake bite, from the pothole. The pressure of the rim against the ground causes two holes, one either side of the tube. I'm guessing you patched one and left the other.
    I've been getting lots of these, as far as I can tell. Wondered whether I was inflating the tyres too much for the state of the roads where I cycle? I'm also having trouble with these glueless patches...I keep my bike in the conservatory and in the hot weather, these are heating up and slipping, causing the tyres to deflate (I think anyway...!).
    I don't know how you're putting the tube in, but you might want to try slightly inflating before you do. Helps to avoid pinch flats.
  • Razz 11 Jul 2013 11:52:02 61,391 posts
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  • captbirdseye 11 Jul 2013 11:58:40 5,089 posts
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    @andytheadequate The lump sum isn't huge though and i think i paid about 80 for a bike worth 800 after 18 months. But yeah it got changed because dickheads just milked the system.
  • Trafford 11 Jul 2013 17:48:17 5,877 posts
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    captbirdseye wrote:
    But yeah it got changed because dickheads just milked the system.
    How could this be done? I thought the main abuse was folks buying a bike but never commuting on them.
  • elstoof 11 Jul 2013 19:02:40 7,739 posts
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    I think it got changed because the taxman wanted a bigger cut; most companies wrote off the final payment and they can't tax that final payment if there isn't one.
  • mal 11 Jul 2013 19:57:22 22,693 posts
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    mal wrote:
    So, Lidl are having another batch of bike stuff in from Thursday. Mostly the usual tat of cheap clothes, pumps and toolkits, but new to me are their sealant spray cans.

    Unfortunately the website's not to clear about what they do.
    Right, went out and got a can now. It seems that that brass thing you can see in the photo is a presta adaptor the can comes with, so it does seem capable of patching both presta and schrader tubes (screw you dunlop guys). It also claims to pump up your tubes a bit, though it does say you may need to pump them up further. The only remaining question is will it work?

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • elstoof 11 Jul 2013 21:04:14 7,739 posts
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    Most of the known brand ones don't seem to work all that well so I'd suggest its doubtful - I'd take a spare tube with me if I intended on trying it out, might end up with a gummed up valve.
  • MikeP 12 Jul 2013 17:16:48 1,938 posts
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    For a "boring flat transition stage," that was ridiculous.

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  • elstoof 12 Jul 2013 18:00:54 7,739 posts
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    I'll be catching the highlights of that for sure.
  • MikeP 13 Jul 2013 14:17:10 1,938 posts
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    Wow it's proper hot out there. Got out early, and by 11am it was roasting. Lovely stuff.

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  • OptimusPube 13 Jul 2013 15:04:36 3,137 posts
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    Just been on a ride with a difference, went for a cycle to Humber Bridge but didn't go over it this time, settled down on Hessle Foreshore in the shade and drank the ice cold tinnies I had in my rucksack and chilled for about two hours listening to some world music lol, it was a fun ride back, might do the same tomorrow, the ladies are hardly wearing anything which is a bonus.

    Danny MacAskill gives me a boner

  • elstoof 14 Jul 2013 15:11:07 7,739 posts
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    Crumbs, Porte just destroyed the peloton.
  • Vortex808 14 Jul 2013 15:16:06 7,293 posts
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    Hmm. Froome in a league of his own here. Leaving contador and nieve standing. Quintana just about sticking with him for now.

    My doubts increase.
  • DaM 14 Jul 2013 15:20:04 13,329 posts
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    Nah, born at 6000ft, that explains it ;) He could have done this last year, was just helping Bradley.
  • Trafford 14 Jul 2013 15:24:08 5,877 posts
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    Gah spoilers, was avoiding the TdF thread.
  • Trafford 14 Jul 2013 15:25:51 5,877 posts
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    Not that I'm being prissy about spoilers guys.

    I agree with DaM, Froome is a freak.
  • Vortex808 14 Jul 2013 15:30:47 7,293 posts
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    Trafford wrote:
    Not that I'm being prissy about spoilers guys.

    I agree with DaM, Froome is a freak.
    Sorry Trafford.

    I sort of hope it is something like that, but I am more suspicious of this kind of thing these days.
  • DaM 14 Jul 2013 15:31:18 13,329 posts
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    Bloody hell!
  • elstoof 14 Jul 2013 15:35:05 7,739 posts
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    Wow. What a show on the Ventoux.
  • Trafford 14 Jul 2013 15:36:01 5,877 posts
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    No worries, I did unfollow all my Twitter feeds when I set the tv to record the live coverage.

    Just means I can do something else with my evening now. :)
  • Trafford 14 Jul 2013 15:37:26 5,877 posts
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    Oh you're teasing me now!
  • Vortex808 14 Jul 2013 15:38:03 7,293 posts
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    I'll still be watching the highlights anyway.

    Exciting stuff and some awesome riding. I'm knackered having watching it
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