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  • Psychotext 20 Jun 2013 23:56:00 53,799 posts
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    Cyclo? Isn't that basically a road bike with friendlier tyres? (I have no idea)
  • Trafford 21 Jun 2013 00:08:12 5,611 posts
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    With thicker down tubing and refinements in geometry, like shorter chainstays and a longer head tube.

    Edited by Trafford at 00:12:27 21-06-2013
  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 01:04:57 53,799 posts
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    I've spent the last hour looking at cycle friendly b&bs near Keswick. lol
  • Trafford 21 Jun 2013 01:23:18 5,611 posts
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    Pah! I've really got to attend this Ibiza thing. As a teetotaller/recovering alco, I've avoided works shindigs for years.
    Chances are, all 30 of us from the Manc branch will qualify. It's my chance to drop the outcast image, my firm is a big social animal.
  • UncleLou Moderator 21 Jun 2013 01:27:09 35,423 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Cyclo? Isn't that basically a road bike with friendlier tyres? (I have no idea)
    It's the original All-Terrain-Bike from 100 years ago, before Mountain and Trekking Bikes took over in the 1980s. Depending on perspective, it's good for nothing or the nearly perfect bike for nearly everything. :)

    Crazy Belgians mainly use it to race though the mud in autumn. I use mine to turn into the forest from the road whenever I want.

  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 01:30:04 53,799 posts
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    Trafford wrote:
    It's my chance to drop the outcast image, my firm is a big social animal.
    I'd rather walk into traffic.
  • Trafford 21 Jun 2013 07:46:11 5,611 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Trafford wrote:
    It's my chance to drop the outcast image, my firm is a big social animal.
    I'd rather walk into traffic.
    I really have no choice this year, I can live without meeting up with other departments, but all my immediate work buddies will be going, they're the folk I don't want to disappoint. I've turned down some amazing foreign trips over the years.
    My boss has said, no excuses this year Traff, or something like that.
  • THFourteen 21 Jun 2013 07:54:31 32,857 posts
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    Still waiting for my Cycle to Work voucher to come through. Hopefully in the next 10 days or so.

    As predicted, the weather has turned to shit, so i'm no longer really interested

    :-)
  • elstoof 21 Jun 2013 08:24:27 6,599 posts
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    Eugh, enforced work socialising. As much as I enjoy the company of most of my colleagues, I already see more than enough of them. I spend more waking hours in their company than I do with my family.

    Anyway, should be cracking riding up in the Lakes, I was up there a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely stunning scenery. Not that far to get to either, total driving time from the middle of London was about 4 and a half hours, so take an empty bottle and a sandwich and there's no need to stop on the way :D
  • elstoof 21 Jun 2013 08:28:13 6,599 posts
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    @THFourteen Ah yes, the curse of the CTW voucher.. Many a bike has been left to gather dust in the hallway, only to ridden during tube strikes - easily spotted as the spotless bikes in last years colour scheme. Then all that's left is the solemn march toward their eBay fate...

    ;)
  • THFourteen 21 Jun 2013 08:45:59 32,857 posts
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    @elstoof

    I'll force myself to use it!
  • Load_2.0 21 Jun 2013 09:19:21 18,873 posts
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    Trafford wrote:
    Pah! I've really got to attend this Ibiza thing. As a teetotaller/recovering alco, I've avoided works shindigs for years.
    Chances are, all 30 of us from the Manc branch will qualify. It's my chance to drop the outcast image, my firm is a big social animal.
    You will be able to get by without boozing, it will be hard but it is doable. On the plus side the Island has some really great beaches and nice places to eat away from the party bits, plus you will get to see loads of hot women!
  • Deleted user 21 June 2013 09:59:11
    Apart from having to buy the bike from Evans I really like the Ride to Work Scheme.

    £800 voucher for £450 + they are doing a promotion where you get £50 of accessories free. It’s a great deal.

    Although the way it works is quite perverse – if you are in the higher tax band you save more money. Doesn’t seem quite fair!

    Also that Lake District Ride looks awesome. Doing the L2B off road in September so that would carry on from it quite nicely.
    Keep the fitness going – I usually give up for the year round about October!
  • elstoof 21 Jun 2013 10:02:31 6,599 posts
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    Take your bike to Ibiza Trafford, while everyone is sleeping off their hangovers you can nip out for an early morning ride or two ;)
  • Dougs 21 Jun 2013 10:04:22 66,634 posts
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    That's been trouble this year. Was really making progress until October time, then my wife had another baby, stressful 6 months followed and I've struggled to find the time to get out there much more than once a week. Really noticeable, that winter half-stone has pretty much stayed on!
  • brokenkey 21 Jun 2013 10:13:53 6,943 posts
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    Alipan wrote:
    Apart from having to buy the bike from Evans I really like the Ride to Work Scheme.

    £800 voucher for £450 + they are doing a promotion where you get £50 of accessories free. It’s a great deal.

    Although the way it works is quite perverse – if you are in the higher tax band you save more money. Doesn’t seem quite fair!

    Also that Lake District Ride looks awesome. Doing the L2B off road in September so that would carry on from it quite nicely.
    Keep the fitness going – I usually give up for the year round about October!
    You only save a decent amount of money if your company allows you to carry on "renting" the same bike from them for a further 3 years at a tiny rental fee. If they don't, and you have buy it off them at the end of year one then the savings are fairly minimal.

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  • Deleted user 21 June 2013 10:19:45
    Right...guess it depends on your company.

    Im on my second scheme now. The first one ended a few months ago.

    After 3 years they valued my £600 mountain bike at £80. I had to pay them that or they would come and collect the bike at a cost to me of £100 (!!!).

    Naturally I opted to pay the £80 but even that seems to be paid back as some sort of tax dodge. I received some weird letter outlining how the cost would be paid. Couldnt figure it out to be honest but Ive paid nothing so far!
  • Trafford 21 Jun 2013 10:26:43 5,611 posts
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    Yeah I might well look into cycle hire.
    It's a Friday back Sunday event. Private air charter as well :D
    Knowing the company, they'll probably have us in a top night club at some point. Which will be an eye opener for an old codger like me.
  • pistol 21 Jun 2013 10:54:16 13,019 posts
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    2 weeks until the Marmotte for me..;-)
  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 11:07:35 53,799 posts
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    Linking for the new page: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/538854/cycling-weekly-lakeland-monster-miles.html

    I've just checked my calendar and I have a prior commitment but I think I'll try and get out of it.
  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 12:51:03 53,799 posts
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    Have just booked. First time I'll have done any mass participation stuff.

    /am scared
  • elstoof 21 Jun 2013 12:55:35 6,599 posts
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    Hah, don't worry mate, it'll all be fine ;)
  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 12:59:47 53,799 posts
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    You filthy roadies all ride too close to each other. I'll be forced to brandish a chain or something. :p
  • mal 21 Jun 2013 13:11:54 22,332 posts
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    Alipan wrote:
    Naturally I opted to pay the £80 but even that seems to be paid back as some sort of tax dodge. I received some weird letter outlining how the cost would be paid. Couldnt figure it out to be honest but Ive paid nothing so far!
    Yeah, it's all a bit of a tax dodge. Seems companies get something out of it, because it works by reducing or at least delaying your taxable benefits (so presumably the company ends up paying less NI or something) - hence it saving you more if you pay higher tax. I do know a few companies who were basically writing off the benefit at the end of the rental agreement basically got caught out by HMRC who declared that you can't write off a second hand bike and had to calculate what it was worth and ask for that. In the past it was a scheme that would probably save you money with a small chance you'd get fucked up by the tax, whereas not it's a scheme which may save you money but there's a fair chance you'll get tripped up at the end.

    Bascically it's the sort of shit you get if accountants design a scheme. Personally I just waited until the end of season sales and picked up something then.

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  • MikeP 21 Jun 2013 13:29:38 1,767 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Have just booked. First time I'll have done any mass participation stuff.

    /am scared
    Which distance did you go for? Full or Mini?
  • Psychotext 21 Jun 2013 13:44:38 53,799 posts
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    Full. No half measures for me.
  • Deleted user 21 June 2013 14:29:39
    I've been looking at a few bikes this morning, and my local shop website have a specialized Allez '13 In stock. I'm not sure what sizes they have, so might pop down and have a look in the minute or tomorrow.

    Before i go head first into all this, i'm practically new to cycling, i havn't done it in a while, and just always used other peoples bikes for a while and just gone out and done what ever.

    I live in cornwall, its rather hilly, and the main roads are extremely busy. Theres plenty of back roads, and a few national trust parks, woods etc that have mixed pavements to get in between places.

    So i'm not sure whether to go road, or get a hybird like a giant escape? this is going to sound petty, i don't really like the triangle frame shape these other (yeah i havn't considered comfort :)

    In general i want to use it as a fitness thing, but make it fun to do as well. And once i get used to it and more experienced on the roads, try longer distances. But i'm not made of money and want to make this an investment at the same time.
  • MikeP 21 Jun 2013 15:03:06 1,767 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Full. No half measures for me.
    Nice! I have just purchased my full ticket too. 62 miles at 35/40 psi. Should be fun/slow :)
  • MikeP 21 Jun 2013 15:07:54 1,767 posts
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    joelstinton wrote:
    I've been looking at a few bikes this morning, and my local shop website have a specialized Allez '13 In stock. I'm not sure what sizes they have, so might pop down and have a look in the minute or tomorrow.

    Before i go head first into all this, i'm practically new to cycling, i havn't done it in a while, and just always used other peoples bikes for a while and just gone out and done what ever.

    I live in cornwall, its rather hilly, and the main roads are extremely busy. Theres plenty of back roads, and a few national trust parks, woods etc that have mixed pavements to get in between places.

    So i'm not sure whether to go road, or get a hybird like a giant escape? this is going to sound petty, i don't really like the triangle frame shape these other (yeah i havn't considered comfort :)

    In general i want to use it as a fitness thing, but make it fun to do as well. And once i get used to it and more experienced on the roads, try longer distances. But i'm not made of money and want to make this an investment at the same time.
    The Allez is a really solid choice, Specialized sell bags of them for a reason.

    With the compact gearing that nearly all road bikes have you should be able to tackle pretty steep hills too. On road bikes you can now get up to a 32 tooth cassette on the back (provided you get a matching derailleur) and that's really, really low gearing.

    Road bikes give you a range of positions and are a more flexible prospect than a hybrid. If you're going to woods etc then you might consider looking at a Specialized Tricross too.
  • mal 21 Jun 2013 15:12:03 22,332 posts
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    joelstinton wrote:
    So i'm not sure whether to go road, or get a hybird like a giant escape?
    I don't know if you'll get much help on this part of your question here. There's basically two tribes here - roadies and off-roadies. And add to that the CXers, the cycling sport guys, and the odd hispter fixie rider and that's the only reason this thread's so often bumped - cos it's really about five threads in one.

    Regarding the Escape's triangle shape, I'm not sure what you mean. I just see a standardish bicycle diamond there.

    Edit: And MikeP ;)

    Edited by mal at 15:13:00 21-06-2013

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

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