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  • elstoof 16 Oct 2012 12:07:33 7,001 posts
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    *cough* cyclocross *cough*
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 12:20:48 53,946 posts
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    Super... be even less likely to be able to deal with the mud and harsh conditions.

    Though carrying my bike around does sound like a lot of fun.
  • elstoof 16 Oct 2012 12:28:38 7,001 posts
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    It's pretty mental stuff, don't think I'd enjoy it. I've spoken to a few former roadies who don't ride on the road at all now, it's all about the cross for them since they have it a go. There's a Rapha cross event at Ally Pally in north London next weekend, I think I'll pop along for it though.
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 12:29:28 53,946 posts
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    Nutters.
  • Trafford 16 Oct 2012 12:38:30 5,739 posts
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    Thin tyres go well through mud.
    Improves handling skills also.
    Best of both worlds I'd say.

    The CX you tubevid Mike linked last page had a 3 Peaks in 3 minutes video, lovely stuff.
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 12:40:21 53,946 posts
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    Thin tyres go well through mud until you try to turn, and then you die.

    That's speaking from experience. Also, fuck handling skills... I'd rather come back with no broken legs than additional skills.
  • MikeP 16 Oct 2012 12:48:23 1,816 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    It's pretty mental stuff, don't think I'd enjoy it. I've spoken to a few former roadies who don't ride on the road at all now, it's all about the cross for them since they have it a go. There's a Rapha cross event at Ally Pally in north London next weekend, I think I'll pop along for it though.
    I'm totally riding in that. I'm also doing the Muddy Hell Halloween CX race the evening before.

    I should have done my first CX race on Sunday, but I was ill :(

    PSN ID: Mikenetic

  • Trafford 16 Oct 2012 13:00:10 5,739 posts
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    I did a CX free for all last year, it was hell.

    The Halloween events look good. You dressing up Mike?

    Edited by Trafford at 13:19:32 16-10-2012
  • elstoof 16 Oct 2012 13:03:00 7,001 posts
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    Nice one Mike, I'll be able to cheer you along with my beer, frites and, apparently, cowbells. :D
  • MikeP 16 Oct 2012 14:53:50 1,816 posts
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    Yes I will be doing fancy dress (provided I can find some sort of mask I can breathe through)

    I'm doing the fun race in the Rapha Super Cross. That involves a Tequila shortcut, apparently. And a Wall of Foam.

    I think Rouleur gave away cowbells last year, that's where ours came from. Everyone needs moar cowbell.

    PSN ID: Mikenetic

  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 15:34:55 53,946 posts
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    Cowbells and beer, now this is something I can get behind.
  • Trafford 16 Oct 2012 16:02:53 5,739 posts
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    They are fun events, Le Mans style start to the bikes, which are all piled up in a heap.
  • elstoof 16 Oct 2012 16:29:18 7,001 posts
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    Not just any beer, but Belgian beer.

    Drink Tripels, don't ride triples.
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 17:01:03 53,946 posts
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    Have just been putting together some GPS tracks based on old paper ones. Problem is, as always, that sometimes I simply can't see the track from the piss poor resolution satellite view so I end up guessing... and I pretty much always guess wrong.

    I'm going to end up stuck in a river somewhere in the middle of Wales (again).

    Edit - The route I just did has an artillery range in the middle of it. You really, really don't want to take a wrong turn there.

    Edited by Psychotext at 18:07:41 16-10-2012
  • MikeP 16 Oct 2012 18:02:38 1,816 posts
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    This pretty much sums up how to do CX racing the right way.

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  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 18:08:12 53,946 posts
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    She seems like a classy girl.
  • MikeP 16 Oct 2012 18:11:39 1,816 posts
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    Same people, different angle

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  • elstoof 16 Oct 2012 18:16:20 7,001 posts
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    Ugh, this dollar bill is covered on mud.

    At least, I hope that's what I is.
  • Psychotext 17 Oct 2012 11:48:42 53,946 posts
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    Welp, looks like I'm going to be a few hundred quid down soon: http://bikemagic.com/gear/first-looks/gopro-unveil-wifi-enabled-hero-3-camera-2012.html
  • Lamb 17 Oct 2012 18:27:16 474 posts
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    My two cents

    Lance Armstrong the media built him into a hero and now they ripped him apart. I for one don't care if he used epo or didn't. He remains a hero in my eyes for all he did for cancer and bringing celebrity status to the sport.

    Epo and other performance enhancing drugs should be studied and utilized to make the human race and its food supply better. Given also that testing is inefficient whenever a new drug comes out, then whats the point? Only ban hazardous substances thats what drug testing should be geared toward.


    @MikeP

    Kudos thats hilarious. :p :D
  • Psychotext 17 Oct 2012 18:56:39 53,946 posts
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    Bringing celebrity status to the sport?

    Maybe in the US, but TDF winners have been near gods in Europe for long before Armstrong came along.
  • elstoof 17 Oct 2012 18:56:47 7,001 posts
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    So.... Don't bother to test for new performance enhancing drugs because its difficult and we don't know enough about them, instead only test for the hazardous ones that we know nothing about.

    Do you see the flaw?
  • elstoof 17 Oct 2012 18:59:05 7,001 posts
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    Also he's done fuck all for cancer, Livestrong are an "awareness" charity, They do nothing towards finding a cure. I was fully "aware" of cancer long before those yellow wristbands turned up. He's perhaps the only person on the earth to actually benefit from cancer himself.

    Edited by elstoof at 18:59:30 17-10-2012
  • Lamb 17 Oct 2012 19:01:53 474 posts
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    @Elstoof

    No I don't see the flaw. :(

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit

    Also giving hope to people against an apparently terminal disease is something that is apparently way underrated by you.
  • Psychotext 17 Oct 2012 19:13:08 53,946 posts
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    ...

    There was no indication that anything in Benoit's body contributed to his violent behavior that led to the murder–suicide, concluding that there was no "roid-rage" involved.

    ...

    Tests were conducted on Benoit's brain by Julian Bailes, the head of neurosurgery at West Virginia University, and results showed that "Benoit's brain was so severely damaged it resembled the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient." He was reported to have had an advanced form of dementia, similar to the brains of four retired NFL players who had suffered multiple concussions, sank into depression, and harmed themselves or others.
    So what exactly were you trying to say? Unless your point was that bashing your head a lot can fuck up your brain... but I don't know what that has to do with drugs.

    Edited by Psychotext at 19:14:33 17-10-2012
  • elstoof 17 Oct 2012 19:19:18 7,001 posts
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    Receiving vast donations as a result of your own triumph over adversity and paying yourself a tidy wage as chairman of said charity when all your achievements are built on lies - yes I do rate that very low down on the scale compared to say, Cancer Research or the Marie Curie.

    I don't see what Benoit has to do with my point - if a dry is unknown and we don't test for it, how can we know if its hazardous enough to test for it?

    As to studying EPO to enhance the human race in some way, well we know its effects to some degree. It wasn't developed to win a bike race in any case, dodgy doctors saw its potential for application.
  • kalel 17 Oct 2012 19:19:22 86,962 posts
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    Quite sad to see how some fans react. This is the real evil of the man. He made some believe in him so much that even in the face of his disgraceful and unforgivable cheating, they defend him and call him a hero. It's truly sad. They're like battered wives or something.
  • Lamb 17 Oct 2012 19:57:51 474 posts
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    @psychotext

    I thought it was roid rage but they confirmed it wasn't. My mistake I thought it was an extremely sad example of a hazardous substance and its longterm effects.

    @ kalel

    Lance Armstrong never harmed me, the media harmed me. They glorified him and built him up, and everybody said you gotta read his book, its so inspirational and grudgingly I did and I was inspired. Now the media comes out fifteen years later, OMG he is a cheat, lets burn his books and crucify him. WTF!?

    If anyone is a battered wife, its the media. A long term view held for over fifteen years isn't going to be erased overnight by a mountain of evidence. Unless the crime is extremely heinous.

    Grudgingly I don't want to play along anymore. :(

    Edited by Lamb at 20:01:53 17-10-2012
  • elstoof 17 Oct 2012 20:09:28 7,001 posts
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    The media didn't write his story, they merely packaged it. It's funny you should say a view held for 15 years cannot be erased by a mountain of evidence because a statement from Nike about them terminating their 16 year contract was due to "seemingly insurmountable evidence" he doped during his career and "misled" the company "for more than a decade."
  • Lamb 17 Oct 2012 20:22:52 474 posts
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    Nike isn't a person, its a company.

    A person has feelings and handles things differently, in their own way.
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