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  • PES_Fanboy 17 Jul 2014 11:37:11 16,438 posts
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    Oh those are speed holes
  • BillMurray 17 Jul 2014 12:34:20 7,763 posts
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    Ive been offered a 2006/2007 Giant road bike for £60. Chap who's selling it can't find anyone who'll fit an XL and I'm after something with more than 1 gear. Sounds like its in good nick too. Any words of wisdom on anything to look out for?
  • MikeP 17 Jul 2014 12:44:24 1,885 posts
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    @caligari

    Be good to see a pic - they sound like wear markers. Some tyre manufacturers (Continental for example) also put them into their tyres so that once they disappear, you know that you've worn the tyre out.

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  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 12:48:13 7,511 posts
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    Signs of crash damage, cracks to the frame, where the bars can hit the top tube if they spin with force. Check the wheels are true by spinning them and how they travel between the brake blocks. Go through the gears and see if they change adequately.

    For £60 anything above that is a bonus.
  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 12:59:24 7,511 posts
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    @caligari

    The hole is on the anodised section of the rim then? It's just a drain hole, a few campy rims have them too. There's another hole in the rim that can let water in - the one the valve pokes through - but it's position on the innermost edge stops water getting out due to centrifugal forces. They put a second hole so water can work it's way out while spinning. It's a necessity when the rim has a sealed bed like the Quattros (no exposed nipple holes).
  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 13:43:28 7,511 posts
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    https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A3G6XBubGgDnjt

    Drain hole on my Boras.

    Edited by elstoof at 13:43:53 17-07-2014
  • caligari 17 Jul 2014 15:15:29 17,061 posts
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    Ah, brill - thanks guys (oh, and sexy wheels, Els).

    Just for the hell of it, here are the 'drain holes' on the Quattros:





    Now I just have to work out why the area around the cassette has suddenly started making 'bone shaker' noises whenever I go over the slightest patch of rough terrain. Souns like the freaking wheel is about to fall off. :/

    Edited by caligari at 15:16:58 17-07-2014
  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 16:21:01 7,511 posts
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    That's a strange one... The area around the cassette? Is the cassette lockring well tightened, or the quick release skewer, is it a new cassette?
  • MikeP 17 Jul 2014 16:50:41 1,885 posts
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    In other news, Jonathan Tiernan-Locke has been banned until the end of 2015 for biological passport irregularities and Sky have terminated his contract with immediate effect.

    Good one, JTL. Now, tell the truth.

    Edited by MikeP at 16:54:22 17-07-2014

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  • MikeP 17 Jul 2014 16:57:03 1,885 posts
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    @BillMurray There's a good routine to giving it a check over here. It's called an M-Check

    http://www.cyclinginstructor.com/Bicycle_m_check

    As elstoof says, also look for cracked paint as that can indicate an impact. Chipped paint is normally OK, but cracks can indicate the underlying tube has been stressed at some point.

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  • caligari 17 Jul 2014 16:57:11 17,061 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    That's a strange one... The area around the cassette? Is the cassette lockring well tightened, or the quick release skewer, is it a new cassette?
    I have to admit that I got my LBS to fit everything for me - yes, I'm still that useless.

    No, it's an older cassette (still plenty of life left in it). I've read that the whole 10-speed/11-speed thing with these wheels means that you have to play about with extra spacers - I wonder if they haven't fitted something properly.

    At first I thought it was just the innertube valves ratting around.

    I'll give the QR skewer a check when I head out on it in a second.

    Sheesh - I'm really selling these to you, am I not? Apart from the embarrassing noise AND 'suspicious' holes...they're actually a really solid set of wheels!
  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 17:10:40 7,511 posts
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    id go back to the lbs in that case and explain the noise - they might have forgotten the spacer.
  • BillMurray 17 Jul 2014 17:29:51 7,763 posts
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    Thanks very much chaps! Off to look at it tomorrow so will let you know how I get on.
  • grey_matters 17 Jul 2014 21:57:51 3,774 posts
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    MikeP wrote:
    In other news, Jonathan Tiernan-Locke has been banned until the end of 2015 for biological passport irregularities and Sky have terminated his contract with immediate effect.

    Good one, JTL. Now, tell the truth.
    So who is the Tour of Britain champ from the year that he won?
    Hopefully Sky will shut the fuck up about their awesome attention to detail now considering he was highly suspicious at the time they signed him. Brailsford apparently walked away from Shane Stokes today in a middle of a question about JTL and got on the team bus. Bad form, if true.
  • elstoof 17 Jul 2014 22:55:36 7,511 posts
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    Nathan Haas.
  • grey_matters 17 Jul 2014 23:58:35 3,774 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    Nathan Haas.
    Thanks. Should've looked it up really.

    Paul Kimmage's Rough Ride documentary has finally been cleared as fit for human consumption.

    RTE1 July 28th 9.30 if anyone is interested.
    Dunno if it will be on the player, I'd guess so. Some relocation cleverness might be required though for those outside Ireland.

    Edited by grey_matters at 23:59:37 17-07-2014
  • caligari 18 Jul 2014 08:12:28 17,061 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    id go back to the lbs in that case and explain the noise - they might have forgotten the spacer.
    Heh, had a look through the old parts last night, and there IS a spacer for making the wheels suitable for 9/10-Speed bikes.

    The cassette seems to be moving about quite freely so taking back is a good idea!
  • elstoof 18 Jul 2014 08:17:33 7,511 posts
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    Fulcrum/Campag, Mavic + a few other wheel companies have been on the slightly wider 11 speed freehub standard for about 10 years, hence the need for a spacer to fatten everything up so the lock ring clamps down tight enough. Shimano wheels have only just gone wider so if the bike shop deals mainly with Shimano gear it's easy to forget.

    It'll take about 40 seconds to fix.
  • caligari 18 Jul 2014 20:35:49 17,061 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    Fulcrum/Campag, Mavic + a few other wheel companies have been on the slightly wider 11 speed freehub standard for about 10 years, hence the need for a spacer to fatten everything up so the lock ring clamps down tight enough. Shimano wheels have only just gone wider so if the bike shop deals mainly with Shimano gear it's easy to forget.

    It'll take about 40 seconds to fix.
    You were right, Elstoof - I popped in to double check with the LBS (with the spacer I'd found in the bag of old skewers etc). All is now perfect.

    Would cycling around with the wrong spacer for half a day have caused any kind of damage to the wheel/cassette, I wonder? It really sounded like the back wheel was going to fall off.
  • caligari 18 Jul 2014 20:37:20 17,061 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Oh those are speed holes
    My speed holes are all present and correct.
  • elstoof 18 Jul 2014 21:16:12 7,511 posts
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    Nah, you won't have caused any damage to anything.
  • caligari 18 Jul 2014 22:35:05 17,061 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    Nah, you won't have caused any damage to anything.
    Thanks for all the help, Els - as always!
  • elstoof 18 Jul 2014 23:03:06 7,511 posts
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    Any time buddy.
  • Psychotext 21 Jul 2014 11:35:19 54,308 posts
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    I've found my new bike carrier...

  • MikeP 21 Jul 2014 13:43:31 1,885 posts
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    Given Sky's current performance, it'll probably break down as soon as it hits the slopes of a hill.

    Edited by MikeP at 13:43:41 21-07-2014

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  • Vortex808 23 Jul 2014 17:27:45 7,215 posts
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    Right folks, does anyone have any recommendations of a tiny bike lock, preferably cable if possible?

    I 'm looking for something as light as possible to pop in a jersey pocket while out on my road bike, but enough to secure a wheel to the down tube or something to ease my worry while popping into a shop to pick up an ice lolly/ double espresso to keep me going.

    Currently, my 'plop the bike outside and hope it's still there when i return' method has worked well, but you never know.

    There is no way i am carting about my U-lock or chunky chain on my road bike. Think of the extra weight, never mind spoiling the lines of my machine.;-)
  • elstoof 23 Jul 2014 18:25:41 7,511 posts
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    A bit of bungee cord and a padlock would probably be as much a deterrent as a thin and lightweight cable lock to someone with a set of bolt cutters who wants your bike.

    Ice cream vans, cafés with outdoor seating and table service, and riding with a buddy are the best options ;)
  • elstoof 23 Jul 2014 18:29:49 7,511 posts
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    There is this, though.

    http://the-interlock.com
  • basmans_grob 23 Jul 2014 19:30:46 303 posts
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    that's quite cool.
  • Salaman 24 Jul 2014 12:50:36 19,139 posts
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    Well the tour is creeping towards the end. Looks like I managed to hand over the red lantern in the mini league but I doubt I'll get beyond second but last. :-)

    Could be exciting to see whether Vortex or Caligari pick up first place, which will depens on Pinot, Sagan and Rodriguez's performances.
    The number 3 spot doesn't look quite decided yet either.

    1 Vortex 4432
    2 Caligari 4318
    3 Basmans_grob 3573
    4 WackoAK 3563
    5 Mike P 3464
    6 Emil 3186
    7 Great Googly Moogly 2783
    8 La Pirata 2576
    9 Ellbot Jim 2350
    10 Bentley Rhythm 2340
    11 Rob Forth 2100
    12 Wim B 1716
    13 grey_matters 1249
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