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  • ecu 24 Apr 2009 18:02:30 77,317 posts
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    Why? It's not exactly a sociable drug.
  • Syrette 24 Apr 2009 18:05:28 44,230 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Why? It's not exactly a sociable drug.

    I know. I didn't mean at parties etc. I rarely socialise at all at the moment is all, even just with 2 or 3 people (or at least 2 or 3 people who are down with stuff like salvia).

    When I was at uni I was seeing people all the time is all. On the other hand it's also not a drug I'd want to take whilst I'm on my own.

  • ecu 24 Apr 2009 18:18:00 77,317 posts
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    It's not a drug you should take on your own.
  • Syrette 24 Apr 2009 18:21:23 44,230 posts
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    I'm extremely aware of that (pretty sure I've already mentioned that). What's your point?

    I don't hang around with many people who want to take salvia with me at the moment, so I haven't touched the stuff in a good while. It's not a social drug, I'm well aware, but it's also not a drug I'd want to take if I'm the only one doing it, whether people are cool being sitters or not.

    Quite simple. What don't you get?

  • ecu 24 Apr 2009 18:23:16 77,317 posts
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    Calm down dear, I was just re-enforcing your point. Did the drugs make you paranoid?
  • Syrette 24 Apr 2009 18:42:17 44,230 posts
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    Sorry, read like you were giving me advice as if I didn't know already.

  • ecu 24 Apr 2009 18:44:25 77,317 posts
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    Yes, I can imagine it might have read like that. Apologies.
  • localnotail 25 Apr 2009 17:37:24 23,093 posts
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    I personally believe salvia to be the single most unpleasant drug I have ever taken in my life. Quite terrifying, the automation and the despair that I was pulled into. Really don't think it should be legal. The thought of someone doing this on their own and having as bad an experience as I did really worries me. I know it doesn't last long in real time but I suffered an eternity of physical pain under that drug. Quite freaked me at the time.

    I used to say yes to most drugs, but salvia is the one thing I really don't ever want to spend time with again.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • Syrette 27 Apr 2009 22:45:06 44,230 posts
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    Psychedelic in bad trip shocker.

    It happens.

  • ecu 27 Apr 2009 22:47:29 77,317 posts
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    Aye, that's drugs for ya. If you're taking any kind of hallucinogen there's always the possibility of a bad trip.
  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 22:56:19 23,093 posts
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    ah but I'm a serious drug taker, with over 20 years of psychedelics under my belt. Acid was the first illegal drug I ever took (80s teenager). I'm no longer much of a dabbler due to other reasons, but I love ketamine, and nitrous. Dissociative drugs are my absolute favourite. I've destroyed reality and the universe and travelled in space and time and died and been born again.

    But Salvia is evil IMO. I've never known so much submersive despair, and it went on for aeons. I had had some wine before the first time I smoked it, so as a scientific explorer, I tried it a second time otherwise completely straight just to check and the fear came back so strong that I ran outside and started smacking the ground to bring me back out of it and apparently shouted "THIS IS WHY LOCAL*'S DON'T DO SALVIA!" (fresh air helped too, obviously).

    *names have been changed. No, really.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • ecu 27 Apr 2009 22:57:59 77,317 posts
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    I know people that have had amazing times on it. It did nothing for me though.

    Maybe you had some that was too strong? ie. more than 20x
  • JuanKerr 27 Apr 2009 23:01:40 36,445 posts
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    I had a bad trip on mushrooms in Amsterdam. Mostly my own fault, but I'm done with hallucinogens now, never again. I was terrified by how 'real' it all felt.
  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 23:03:28 23,093 posts
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    it was 20x

    It's got a mixed rep among my mates, I do know people who speak highly of it, but honestly - I know I can't stop anyone from having it but it's the one drug I wish I could un-take. So if I can put anyone off trying it and save them from a similar experience, then good. It was physically painful, and the automation and the "being pulled to the right" freaked the shit out of me - and I've watched my friends' faces melting for hours on acid, I'm not easily scared.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • MetalDog 27 Apr 2009 23:04:06 23,920 posts
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    Don't smoke the 20x + shit. If you're going to take it, chew the leaves. Little to no chance of a massive class 4 freak out that way.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • JuanKerr 27 Apr 2009 23:08:41 36,445 posts
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    localnotail wrote:
    I've watched my friends' faces melting for hours on acid, I'm not easily scared.

    That sort of thing actually frightens me. Seeing my friends face go purple while on mushrooms was horrible and I couldn't even imagine what it would be like if I'd done acid and had to put up with that for hour after hour. Horrific.
  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 23:21:05 23,093 posts
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    JuanKerr wrote:
    localnotail wrote:
    I've watched my friends' faces melting for hours on acid, I'm not easily scared.

    That sort of thing actually frightens me. Seeing my friends face go purple while on mushrooms was horrible and I couldn't even imagine what it would be like if I'd done acid and had to put up with that for hour after hour. Horrific.

    I dunno, acid was always a communal thing (for me), and you go in with rules and understandings, and no matter how much I've been fucked by it, a tiny part of me has always known I was on acid. So I could just be fascinated by the hallucinations.

    Salvia wipes all my awareness of this existence including anyone else who might be in the room with me, and sends me to a horrible place where there is no hope of salvation and all must suffer torment for all eternity.


    did I mention I don't like salvia? ;)

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • JuanKerr 27 Apr 2009 23:25:22 36,445 posts
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    I'm starting to think that you don't like salvia. Not quite sure why I'm getting that vibe though.

    Alcohol is enough for me these days - I'd rather have a few pints of ale in a pub garden than think that I've got spikes growing out of my spine and that the kitchen sink is being ironic.
  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 23:30:19 23,093 posts
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    I really pushed everything for a while, but I think I might be done with it now.

    I can't afford it: financially, physically and emotionally. Aside from festivals, obviously. No rules at festivals.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • ecu 27 Apr 2009 23:39:44 77,317 posts
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    It sounds better than datura. :)


  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 23:45:50 23,093 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    It sounds better than datura. :)



    hey, now that sounds like fun \o/

    /not

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • ecu 27 Apr 2009 23:52:45 77,317 posts
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    Some of those trip reports are absolutely mental. Half the people end up in hospital or jail, or both.
  • localnotail 27 Apr 2009 23:54:23 23,093 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Some of those trip reports are absolutely mental. Half the people end up in hospital or jail, or both.

    it's like herbal special brew

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • sirtacos 27 Apr 2009 23:59:55 7,378 posts
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    The strongest hallucinogen I've ever done is shrooms. The first time was incredibly fun... my friends and I went on adventures and stuff. Awesome.

    The second time was like being ripped out of sanity's womb. Introspective hell is what it was.
  • Tomo 28 Apr 2009 00:01:12 13,985 posts
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    This is hardcore.
  • Syrette 28 Apr 2009 00:02:40 44,230 posts
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    Datura, meth, PCP, crack and Heroin are the drugs I will never ever touch, and I do my best to stay away from the likes of BZP and stuff like that.

    DMT on the other hand is the one substance I would like to try but probably never will.

  • JuanKerr 28 Apr 2009 00:07:49 36,445 posts
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    Christ, some of those datura trips sound like the hullicinations I used to get when I was younger - I used to get really bad temperatures and start hallucinating. My mouth would feel weird and I used to just stare at the light & walls in my bedroom. Just thinking about it makes me feel uncomfortable and I think that part of the reason doing any kind of mind altering drug genuinely scares me.
  • n3utr0n 28 Apr 2009 00:27:51 200 posts
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    sirtacos wrote:
    The strongest hallucinogen I've ever done is shrooms. The first time was incredibly fun... my friends and I went on adventures and stuff. Awesome.

    The second time was like being ripped out of sanity's womb. Introspective hell is what it was.

    Got both of those the first and only time I did shrooms. Started off as the most terrifying experience of my life and then ended with me laughing in glee and wonder at everything.

    FWIW I'm now genuinely scared of the idea of dying/ceasing to exist/loosing one's sanity. Good times.
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