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  • King_Edward 19 Feb 2013 11:51:08 9,359 posts
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    glaeken wrote:
    @LeoliansBro It would kind of make sense to have an OAP Terminator. Kind of a stealth disguises.

    One of the best killer robots I think was from Screamers. A kid with a teddy bear. Perfect. Why does a killer robot have to be big and scary looking afterall?
    I'm sure it was Lance Henrikson that was originally cast as the terminator in the original script. Cameron wanted someone that would blend on. Then Arnie showed up and demanded the role, which I guess was probably for the best.

    And looking into it apparently Billy Idol was favourite to play the T-1000.

    Edited by King_Edward at 11:58:07 19-02-2013
  • King_Edward 19 Feb 2013 11:52:47 9,359 posts
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    speedofthepuma wrote:
    Really comparing anything to anything is pointless as the two things will essentially be different.
    I'd refute your statement, but my argument would inevitably be unrelated to your comment. :(
  • Dangerous_Dan 19 Feb 2013 12:05:28 1,598 posts
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    speedofthepuma wrote:
    Really comparing anything to anything is pointless as the two things will essentially be different.
    It's not necessarily the objective to find similarities by comparing shit. It's the only way how our minds deduce anything about something.
  • speedofthepuma 19 Feb 2013 12:09:09 12,896 posts
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    Yeah, I think I understand what you just wrote. I was just trying to point out an inherent flaw in phAge's argument.

    I've turned off all the avatars and crap, so don't expect me to be impressed by yours.

  • Aargh. 19 Feb 2013 12:16:11 11,159 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Except we're not comparing things like the humour. We're comparing the effectiveness of the villains. Its a totally valid and interesting discussion.
    Guess all those posts commenting on the merits of T1 vs T2 as movies are only on my version of the forum, then. Much apologies.

    Also feel free to disregard the bit where I clearly stated that comparing the two MOVIES (not villains) was futile. Oh wait.
    How is comparing 2 films futile? They have similarities, they have differences. All of these things can be discussed. That also suggests that it's impossible to form a critical opinion of anything because you have to watch everything in complete isolation from the rest of the world.

    In short: you crazy.

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  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 12:17:55 76,454 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    The first one I saw as more of a sci-fi horror film. The second one was a landmark action film.

    It's fair to compare them as entries in the same series, but as individual films they're quite different in tone imo.

    T-800 was a better villain of course.
    Stop it! you're being futile!!
  • Dangerous_Dan 19 Feb 2013 12:20:19 1,598 posts
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    speedofthepuma wrote:
    Yeah, I think I understand what you just wrote. I was just trying to point out an inherent flaw in phAge's argument.
    Oh... Aha! Sorry, I didn't read phAge's comments, after him stating that emo whiner Connor doesn't have enough of an impact on the rating of T2.
    Clearly he's wrong about that. In fact so wrong, that I'd say everything he says in the next 24 hours is suspect.
    ;)

    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 12:25:20 19-02-2013
  • bad09 19 Feb 2013 12:21:19 4,580 posts
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    King_Edward wrote:
    I'm sure it was Lance Henrikson that was originally cast as the terminator in the original script. Cameron wanted someone that would blend on. Then Arnie showed up and demanded the role, which I guess was probably for the best.

    And looking into it apparently Billy Idol was favourite to play the T-1000.
    Haha! I love when you hear about old possible castings they always sound so odd after the films, like Will Smith as Neo in Matrix or Magnum P.I. as Indy.
  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 12:25:47 76,454 posts
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    Will Smith also turned down Django to do MiB3.

    He's made some top career choices.
  • Tonka 19 Feb 2013 12:28:13 18,145 posts
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    Richard in Friends would have been awesome as Indy.
    See High Rad to China if you have any doubt.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • bad09 19 Feb 2013 12:30:20 4,580 posts
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    @kalel

    To be fair he probably eyed a better pay cheque for MIB.
  • Mola_Ram 19 Feb 2013 12:31:31 2,369 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    The first one I saw as more of a sci-fi horror film. The second one was a landmark action film.

    It's fair to compare them as entries in the same series, but as individual films they're quite different in tone imo.

    T-800 was a better villain of course.
    Stop it! you're being futile!!
    lol

    I think I get what he was trying to say, in that the two films are different enough that it's like comparing genre across genre.

    But it's still interesting! It's no more "futile" than any other discussion about film is.
  • LeoliansBro 19 Feb 2013 12:31:33 35,086 posts
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    Wesley Snipes as Geordi La Forge from Star Trek is an awesome piece of casting.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • bad09 19 Feb 2013 12:33:31 4,580 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Wesley Snipes as Geordi La Forge from Star Trek is an awesome piece of casting.
    Is that for real? :)

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    Edited by bad09 at 12:33:48 19-02-2013
  • Deckard1 19 Feb 2013 12:37:27 18,034 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Will Smith also turned down Django to do MiB3.

    He's made some top career choices.
    Really, they wanted him for that? I can't imagine him as Django at all. I'm pretty sure I read a few year ago that he would no longer do any films that had swearing or a lot of violence in them, because he wanted his son to see them though, which would go some way to explaining why he turned it down.
  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 12:41:59 76,454 posts
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    You don't turn down Tarantino. It really is as simple as that. He is career viagra.
  • beastmaster 19 Feb 2013 12:46:06 8,006 posts
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    I Spit n Your Grave (The uncut remake) - 8/10

    For me, one of the best horror remakes ever made. Really quite vicious, horrific and an uncomfortable watch. Good. That's how they should be.
  • ronuds 19 Feb 2013 15:00:11 20,509 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Will Smith also turned down Django to do MiB3.

    He's made some top career choices.
    Really, they wanted him for that? I can't imagine him as Django at all. I'm pretty sure I read a few year ago that he would no longer do any films that had swearing or a lot of violence in them, because he wanted his son to see them though, which would go some way to explaining why he turned it down.
    Yeah, he's a good boy now.

    Probably made a billion doing mib3 and I doubt his career will suffer much from that choice anyway.
  • Gambit1977 19 Feb 2013 15:02:21 7,839 posts
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    beastmaster wrote:
    I Spit n Your Grave (The uncut remake) - 8/10

    For me, one of the best horror remakes ever made. Really quite vicious, horrific and an uncomfortable watch. Good. That's how they should be.
    I agree with this review :cool:
  • Ultrasoundwave 19 Feb 2013 15:03:15 2,844 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    You don't turn down Tarantino. It really is as simple as that. He is career viagra.
    Pretty sure Will Smith is too busy counting his millions to care about career viagra.....

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  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 15:10:20 76,454 posts
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    You say that, but all these guys have egos and want to be getting to make films with the top boys, and win Oscars and all that. They're all rich. That doesn't mean they want to end up like Eddie Murphy (which Will Smith is not in fairly serious danger of btw).
  • craigy Senior Developer, Gamer Network 19 Feb 2013 15:10:25 6,663 posts
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    I don't agree that Tarantino is career viagra -- what about people like Kurt Russell and Mike Myers? Lucy Liu? Michael Madsen? More middling actors have fizzled out than been reborn under his direction.
  • Blotto 19 Feb 2013 15:17:17 1,956 posts
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    Will Smith just seems to want to make movies for his kids or with his kids. Fair enough, give it a few years and you'll probably see him do a few heavier roles.
  • ronuds 19 Feb 2013 15:17:27 20,509 posts
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    He seems to be career viagra for actors whose careers need a kickstart: Travolta, Jackson, etc. For actors who are already popular he doesn't really help much.

    Uma's popularity seems to have hit its peak and since dropped after Kill Bill, for example.
  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 15:25:44 76,454 posts
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    craigy wrote:
    I don't agree that Tarantino is career viagra -- what about people like Kurt Russell and Mike Myers? Lucy Liu? Michael Madsen? More middling actors have fizzled out than been reborn under his direction.
    You're claiming they fizzled out as an actual result of being in a Tarantino? How so? How were the above damaged by being under his direction?

    I would suggest they just failed to capitalise on the opportunity, where many (more) others like Bruce Willis, Travolta, Sam Jackson, Steve Buscemi, Uma Thurman, Harvey Keitel, Ving Rhames, Christopher Walken etc have.

    More to the point, it's a certain type of actor whose had a certain type of career that beenfits most from being in a Tarantino film. I've you've had your time in the sun and are starting to be seen as a bit of a cliche or a joke, Tarantino can reinvent you. I think Will Smith is exactly the type that should have jumped at the chance of being in one of his films.

    Edited by kalel at 15:27:37 19-02-2013
  • kalel 19 Feb 2013 15:27:17 76,454 posts
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    ronuds wrote:
    He seems to be career viagra for actors whose careers need a kickstart: Travolta, Jackson, etc. For actors who are already popular he doesn't really help much.
    Again, he can help reinvent you. Bruce Willis was doing fine as an action film actor, but he got much greater credibility as an actor and started getting more interesting roles like Twelve Monkeys and such because of Pulp Fiction.
  • graysonavich 19 Feb 2013 15:29:13 4,158 posts
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    It's easy to forget how much of a joke Travolta was pre-Pulp Fiction.
  • oceanmotion 19 Feb 2013 15:30:44 13,151 posts
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    Will Smith did his serious stuff like Seven Pounds, Ali, Pursuit of Happiness.

    Sure he will swing back for more later in his career. Seems to be quite happy being Mr Blockbuster even though they aren't all that. Hancock 2, Bad Boys 3, hell naw.
  • graysonavich 19 Feb 2013 15:31:00 4,158 posts
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    Holy shit that was 19 years ago?
  • Alastair 19 Feb 2013 15:35:26 11,954 posts
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    kalel wrote:

    I would suggest they just failed to capitalise on the opportunity, where many (more) others like Bruce Willis, Travolta, Sam Jackson, Steve Buscemi, Uma Thurman, Harvey Keitel, Ving Rhames, Christopher Walken etc have.
    I hesitate to jump into a film debate as I don't consider myself much on an expert of either films of debating, however, all the names on your list kal were in the same film - Pulp Fiction (Possibly a couple were in Reservoir Dogs, and I know Uma Thurman was in Kill Bill).
    What about the other films he's made - did he have a career boosting effect on those actors - Jackie Brown, Deathproof, Planet Terror, Inglorious Basterds...??

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