She wasn't complete peripheral but it was more a case of "we want Catwoman in there, how do we crowbar her in?", a opposed to her character really driving the plot in a meaningful way. |
Anyway I was mostly being positive about her there so you calm yourself.
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You could quite easily have had a goon break into wayne manor and steal a teacup and achieve the same effect. Shes only there because they blew up his love interest.
Gods. TDKR is becoming worse and worse. I'll have to stick it on my "So shit it's funny list" if this continues.
This is about a bloke with a ridiculous mask and voice x 2 fighting over a city.
But a good Nicking a teacup is more implausible than a girl who does ninja shit and has cat ears
-cerberus- wrote:THAT'S A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!
Implausible scenario, don't you think?
NExt up: The empire Strikes Back has some really shitty acting.
you can watch it on YouTube.
Still, doesn't make TDKR any less pants trying to deflect using old Corman FF pics
@-cerberus- why or why not, it doesn't matter, in my opinion it was nothing but a cheap plot device with toys in mind. Who'd buy a thug toy when catwoman is available, right?
As I said back in summer. I actually hated this film. Everything stunk of pandering. From the catwoman inclusion, to the seriously bad editing of key death/killings.
The audio was atrocious and has since been altered completely the other way,meaning it's still unbalanced. And the ending was a cop out. Add to that, there's no where near enough batman for a batman film. There's actually the same amount, if not more, of a character who actually adds nothing whatsoever outside key Deus ex moments.
Then, 2 weeks back I rewatched it on Blu. And said it was more watchable. Still not perfect, or even good, but I managed to watch it. Knowing that it was actually Joseph Gordon Levitt Rises, and that it's a film made by a director clearly embarrassed by the subject, made it easier.
Too much hate for batman. I loved all 3. If i wantedto watch something that was supoposed to be real then I would watch a documentary. I wanted to watch a cool batman film which is what I got. Just because it has few plot holes doesnt make it shit, if you wanna rip on a film then please do it to prometheus, that had plot holes and was shit to boot
I actually think that's a good point, although not quite how you meant. I think generally people are way too harsh on Prometheus and a bit overly generous with the Batman films. Actually both are of a similar quality for similar reasons for me. Both are visually stunning with amazing sequences and some very memorable moments. Both are quite badly written in places and riddled with plot holes (although I would say that the pacing of Prometheus is far better, if only because it's exactly the same as Alien).
Overall I'd rank Prometheus about the same as the Batman films - 7 or 8 ish.
Gambit1977 wrote:What subject? JGL?
and that it's a film made by a director clearly embarrassed by the subject, made it easier.
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Watched half of Batman last night only to get so annoyed with the audio mix I turned it off and went to bed.
The staff who managed the audio for this film should be shot. Unspeakably bad.
I enjoyed Prometheus.
I don't think it helps much that despite me respecting Nolan's films, and enjoying all bar one at the cinema, I rarely find them easy to rewatch. Interesting that TDKR is the one I did.
And if anyone wants to really rip into a film. I'm watching it now...Resident Evil Retribution.
They've always had that knowingly shit guilty pleasure about them, but this is terrible.
Deckard1 wrote:I think if you come at both reasonably objectively, i.e. not being a massve Alien fan or owning Batman pyjamas, then they're both more or less equally enjoyable.
Prometheus is in so way shape or form as good as the any of the Batman films. And you know that kalel. You know that.
As an average over the trilogy Batman probably wins compared to just Prometheus, but I reckon the lows in Batman are probably lower, particularly TDKR.
@Tonka you'd think.
It always feels like he's not entirely comfortable with the fact it's a comic book.
Ironically, David Goyer wrote/had a hand in writing these, yet anything else he's done is normally universally panned.
I would give prometheus about a 5. Not because of plot holes and consistency, just didnt really enjoy it as much as I thought I would. Whereas when batman begins came out I had zero expectations for it (thanks to Joel). Yet I walked out of the cinema thinking yes, this is what I have always wanted from a batman film. Also after seeing the joker card at the end I just couldnt wait for the next one, which to be honest is one of the best cinema experiences I have ever had. (dark knight that is)
Prometheus doesnt meander for three hours and they both leave you scratching your head at all the plot holes and weird actions of the characters. i would say they are about even in that respect.
I could also understand all the characters' speech in Prometheus.
On a related side note, I had a quick listen to TDKR yesterday to check I wasnt going mad and realised that the sound is, basically, designed to be listened to at absolutely insane volumes.
I wondered why I found it so shit yet reviews were rating it as 'reference quality'.
It seems its because they review in soundproofed rooms and turn it up to eleven, whereas mere mortals have to consider neighbours and sleeping children.