Another nutter goes postal in America :(

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  • wobbler147 7 Oct 2007 21:07:09 5,154 posts
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    :(
  • Deleted user 7 October 2007 21:17:40
    Why is this such big news on the BBC/Sky sites?
  • wobbler147 7 Oct 2007 21:21:06 5,154 posts
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    always is.
  • Red-Moose 7 Oct 2007 21:45:41 5,345 posts
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    deathgibbon wrote:
    Why is this such big news on the BBC/Sky sites?

    Because AMERICA IS DANGEROUS and the EU WANTS A NANNY STATE, so Don't leave the UK!.

    Same reasons as usual.

    It's sad that these things seem to happen again and again, regardless of the endless discussions everywhere on easily accessible gun ownership.
  • Poorandugly 7 Oct 2007 22:01:34 557 posts
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    Red Moose wrote:
    deathgibbon wrote:
    Why is this such big news on the BBC/Sky sites?

    Because AMERICA IS DANGEROUS and the EU WANTS A NANNY STATE, so Don't leave the UK!.

    Same reasons as usual.

    It's sad that these things seem to happen again and again, regardless of the endless discussions everywhere on easily accessible gun ownership.

    Well, to be fair, the guy worked as a cop so that argument is not valid here.
  • WrongShui 7 Oct 2007 22:55:05 6,624 posts
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    Who will police the police!?!
  • NewYork 7 Oct 2007 22:58:44 24,835 posts
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    [insert America bashing]
  • Red-Moose 7 Oct 2007 23:06:09 5,345 posts
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    Poorandugly wrote:
    Red Moose wrote:
    deathgibbon wrote:
    Why is this such big news on the BBC/Sky sites?

    Because AMERICA IS DANGEROUS and the EU WANTS A NANNY STATE, so Don't leave the UK!.

    Same reasons as usual.

    It's sad that these things seem to happen again and again, regardless of the endless discussions everywhere on easily accessible gun ownership.

    Well, to be fair, the guy worked as a cop so that argument is not valid here.

    Ah okay, I never read the article after years of Slashdotitis.
  • Saladin 7 Oct 2007 23:08:28 669 posts
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    It was almost certainly because of video games.

    Hell, that article even mentions "manhunt".

    Yup.
  • Salaman 7 Oct 2007 23:56:04 19,626 posts
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    groovemeister wrote:
    Another win for America and the Right to Bear Firearms!

    He was a police officer, so the fact that he had a gun may bot really be related to the easy a private person can buy a gun with.

  • Khanivor 8 Oct 2007 00:01:31 41,295 posts
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    Shut up with your facts and logic!
  • Khanivor 8 Oct 2007 00:09:50 41,295 posts
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    groovemeister wrote:
    1) Was he on duty or was it his gun from home?

    2)How often do non-US police officers have access to guns?

    1) Well it's irrelevant if he was on duty or not as, and I'm sure anyone who has watched more than three US cops shows will know, they don't hand their guns in at work after a shift.

    2) the UK is one of only a tiny minority of weird countries where the police do not routinely carry firearms.

  • phAge 8 Oct 2007 00:12:50 24,445 posts
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    groovemeister wrote:
    Another win for America and the Right to Bear Firearms!
    I've always thought that bears were plenty dangerous *without* allowing them to arm themselves.
  • Dirtbox 8 Oct 2007 00:14:56 79,216 posts
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    disc wrote:
    I find it bizarre that police officers in the UK are practically unarmed.
    You mean aside from the tazers, the battons and the pepper spray the average bobby hefts about. And let's not forget the MP4 toting dibble around parliament.

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  • Megapocalypse 8 Oct 2007 00:16:41 5,526 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    disc wrote:
    I find it bizarre that police officers in the UK are practically unarmed.
    You mean aside from the tazers, the battons and the pepper spray the average bobby hefts about. And let's not forget the MP4 toting dibble around parliament.
    Small point, but very few actually carry tazers at the moment either.
  • Dirtbox 8 Oct 2007 00:18:36 79,216 posts
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    True enough, although that has something to do with the route they're plodding doesn't it?

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  • Dirtbox 8 Oct 2007 00:19:55 79,216 posts
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    disc wrote:
    If a baton or a pepper spray can is pointed at me I'm not going to stop as quickly as if a gun was pointed at me.

    Since seeing Jackass I do think if a Tazer was pointed at me I would hesitate. I might have a go just for the hell of it though.
    Of course, mate.. Of course...

    /rubs chin

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  • Deleted user 8 October 2007 00:29:56
    Well technically they don't stop being police at the end of their shifts either, so it'd make sense for them not to hand in their gun, seeing as it's essential equipment for them.
  • Megapocalypse 8 Oct 2007 00:37:06 5,526 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    True enough, although that has something to do with the route they're plodding doesn't it?
    More just due to the fact that appart from a few trials here and there, they're still only issued to firearms officers.

    also..

    /pedant

    Its CS spray, not pepper spray.

    /pedant
  • WrongShui 8 Oct 2007 02:06:01 6,624 posts
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    disc wrote:
    If a baton or a pepper spray can is pointed at me I'm not going to stop as quickly as if a gun was pointed at me.

    Doesn't really matter how fast you stop they are going use the spray without hesitation since it ain't going to kill and its going put you down just as well.
  • NeoGoaT 8 Oct 2007 02:25:59 290 posts
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    disc wrote:
    I find it bizarre that police officers in the UK are practically unarmed.

    Apart from northern Ireland; handguns, MP5s, rubber bullet launchers, plasma grenades, spartan lasers ...
  • cubbymoore 8 Oct 2007 02:28:35 36,507 posts
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    The americans do postal strikes so much better.
  • UncleLou Moderator 8 Oct 2007 07:02:58 35,855 posts
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    WrongShui wrote:
    disc wrote:
    If a baton or a pepper spray can is pointed at me I'm not going to stop as quickly as if a gun was pointed at me.

    Doesn't really matter how fast you stop they are going use the spray without hesitation since it ain't going to kill and its going put you down just as well.

    A serious disadvantage though if their opponent has a gun, no? I think it's basically a good idea, and it seems to cause no real problems in practice otherwise I guess they would be armed, but I agree wihth disc, it does look a little bizarre to me as well.
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