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  • Pumpatron 22 Mar 2013 00:36:52 383 posts
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    Or it means the trigger spammer gets lucky and beats the guy who's pacing his shots. This argument has been going on since Reach came out. I can see both sides.

    I enjoyed Reach's mp, and Halo 4's, and 3's and 2's. They're all a bit different, the changes/tweaks have never been an issue for me. Mind you, I've always been more of a singleplayer guy and viewed the mp as a nice bonus, not the core of the game.

    I'm not sure what my point is. I should probably go to bed.
  • Nades 22 Mar 2013 09:48:17 1,610 posts
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    @kinky_mong But in games where everyone is good it just ended up at the person who shoots first gets the kill. I'm not saying bloom in general is a bad idea, but to put it in Halo games its terrible. There are different/better ways to make the game as or more skilled than Reach without using bloom, as i said before Halo 3 was way more skillful of a game and it had no bloom at all. Why do you think they toke bloom out of MLG, if it apparently made it so skillful?

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  • RedSparrows 22 Mar 2013 10:32:16 23,854 posts
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    The bloom in Reach was a nice idea, done badly. I'd prefer it not there, so 4 is an improvement for me.

    4, if they took out AAs and 'perks' (they're really not that bad - AAs are the chief game-changing thing) and concentrated on maps that felt like they were made for MP, and not 'oh look, how realistic, a fight in an asymmetric research lab that nobody gives a toss about', would be perfect - ranking et al is merely trappings. As it is, it's still good fun.
  • Nades 22 Mar 2013 15:54:45 1,610 posts
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    Couldn't agree more on the AA and perks.

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  • Jimbob89 24 Mar 2013 14:12:31 113 posts
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    I'm pretty tempted to buy the map packs for this, but just wanted to know how common they pop up in playlists? Are there figures to see how much they've sold? I remember buying reach map packs and only getting to play them a few times due to not many people having them.
  • Nades 24 Mar 2013 14:25:50 1,610 posts
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    I hardly ever come across them, but then again I don't play the game anymore, so not sure. They had playlists for the latest map pack last time I was on but they weren't populated much.

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  • killersrquiet 24 Mar 2013 16:01:33 2,116 posts
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    Jimbob89 wrote:
    I'm pretty tempted to buy the map packs for this, but just wanted to know how common they pop up in playlists? Are there figures to see how much they've sold? I remember buying reach map packs and only getting to play them a few times due to not many people having them.
    1st map pack wasn't so popular, the playlist was removed however the maps are added to the rotation for existing playlists. 2nd map pack has two playlists. FFA had 300 people last night. Team playlist had 800.

    Castle pack is out in April I'd expect the 2nd pack to be swallowed up into the existing playlists as well.

    You will come across the 1st set of maps but it depends on what playlist you select

    Edited by killersrquiet at 16:02:28 24-03-2013
  • Restart 24 Mar 2013 16:41:09 4,859 posts
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    The first set of maps come up pretty often in BTB. Not sure if the second maps have been added to general rotation on 4v4 Slayer yet.

    Edited by Restart at 16:41:40 24-03-2013
  • killersrquiet 24 Mar 2013 16:52:35 2,116 posts
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    Restart wrote:
    The first set of maps come up pretty often in BTB. Not sure if the second maps have been added to general rotation on 4v4 Slayer yet.
    Not yet. They will once the castle map pack comes out.
  • Nades 25 Mar 2013 10:03:01 1,610 posts
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    Once all packs are out they should have permanent playlist for DLC maps.

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  • killersrquiet 25 Mar 2013 10:11:45 2,116 posts
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    Nades wrote:
    Once all packs are out they should have permanent playlist for DLC maps.
    This was a request to 343 made from their own comms forum it should happen they are pretty good at implementing genuine requests where feasible
  • RedSparrows 25 Mar 2013 21:10:21 23,854 posts
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    Yeah. Halo 3's Social Team DLC list was excellent.
  • Nades 26 Mar 2013 05:05:44 1,610 posts
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    I like the idea.

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  • RedSparrows 28 Mar 2013 18:19:48 23,854 posts
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    Hadn't played for a bit. 22-7, 26(ish)-7, 44-7. Booyah.

    Missed out on a killtrocity by the width of a sniper bullet too.
  • muttler 29 Mar 2013 20:31:54 4,225 posts
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    New forge map "Forge Island" available download. 
  • MatMan562 29 Mar 2013 21:13:24 2,541 posts
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    When are the new maps out for this? And what happens to the Majestic playlists (and by extension the linked achievements) once they're out? I've not played for awhile but still need two achievements on them.

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  • killersrquiet 29 Mar 2013 21:53:03 2,116 posts
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    MatMan562 wrote:
    When are the new maps out for this? And what happens to the Majestic playlists (and by extension the linked achievements) once they're out? I've not played for awhile but still need two achievements on them.
    8th of April I believe. The playlist will disappear and the maps added to existing rotations.

    No idea about the achievements though
  • MatMan562 30 Mar 2013 14:38:27 2,541 posts
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    Ok, thanks!

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  • Nades 31 Mar 2013 11:01:38 1,610 posts
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    Is there still 60, 000 or under playing this? Or has the population grown?

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  • Baihu1983 31 Mar 2013 12:21:51 3,578 posts
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    10,623 currently online.

    Halo 2 had the best multiplayer but its downfall all started with Bungie so i hope 343 go back to the drawing board for Halo 5.

    Edited by Baihu1983 at 12:22:59 31-03-2013
  • Deleted user 31 March 2013 12:47:16
    I can't believe how much fun big team slayer is. You get time to think as opposed to cod et al. Funny that I never tried it in any of the other halos.
  • Baihu1983 31 Mar 2013 13:18:19 3,578 posts
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    Team slayer is pretty much all i play. Good fun but tend to get stuck playing the same few maps.
  • Nades 31 Mar 2013 14:21:03 1,610 posts
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    @Baihu1983 Holy shit that's terrible lmfao. After 3 years of Halo 3 the population on social slayer alone was better than that hahah.Lets hope Halo 5 more like 2 and 3. I highly doubt it will be though.

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  • Baihu1983 31 Mar 2013 18:37:34 3,578 posts
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    Is bad for a game that's sold what 9M?

    Lets hope they take note of these numbers.
  • RedSparrows 31 Mar 2013 19:04:01 23,854 posts
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    10,000 taken at one moment is hardly representative of the game as a whole.

    but nevermind.
  • RedSparrows 31 Mar 2013 19:06:59 23,854 posts
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    Nades wrote:
    @Baihu1983 Holy shit that's terrible lmfao. After 3 years of Halo 3 the population on social slayer alone was better than that hahah.Lets hope Halo 5 more like 2 and 3. I highly doubt it will be though.
    Halo 2 had NO competition. Halo 3 only had CoD4, which took a big chunk: Halo 4 is far from perfect but pretending that all that needs to happen is for 343 to ape 6 or 9 year old games and suddenly have the old days back is simply delusional.

    I get that you might not like Halo 4, but the way people go on... Jesus.

    Edited by RedSparrows at 19:07:57 31-03-2013
  • Dave_McCoy 31 Mar 2013 19:14:00 2,800 posts
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    Xbox Live community, feel free to choose a different map to Exile on BTB...F**k sake....
  • killersrquiet 31 Mar 2013 19:31:58 2,116 posts
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    Dave_McCoy wrote:
    Xbox Live community, feel free to choose a different map to Exile on BTB...F**k sake....
    this has always been the problem with halo, they are quite happy to play the same 3 maps repeatedly for hours I can only imagine they lack imagination.

    Its always exile, ragnarok or haven.
  • Nades 1 Apr 2013 12:07:51 1,610 posts
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    @RedSparrows That fact is, most people like the old Halo games more. I'm not saying the population would be AS good as 2 & 3 if they made Halo like them again, just that the population would get a huge increase. With Halo 4 they have completely ignored its competitive and older fanbase which is the reason Halo 4 is doing so terrible lol. Reach was never this bad and it had plenty of competition. I have been playing and loved Halo games since I was young with the first Halo, but now I've had to move onto BO2. I thought I would always be a Halo player.

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  • oceanmotion 1 Apr 2013 12:31:01 16,080 posts
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    Halo 4 hovers around 35000-45000 at peak.

    People have moved on to COD and now BF. Halo just hasn't found a way to progress yet. The map packs and playlists leave a lot to be desired which doesn't help. The numbers are so low they can't go around splitting the user base, they are too late, roll on Halo 5.

    They have to make massive progress on new hardware, come out the gates running with a solid feature set and plan. No pass for 343 next time. If they actually make it a fresh start this time around, they might get somewhere. I don't think I could take another Halo so rooted in Bungie Halo outside of basics they nailed.
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