The Debate...PC Vs. Consoles

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  • freaxgamer 4 Sep 2007 10:27:53 1,604 posts
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    Forget your PlayStation v Xbox battle, there’s a war that has been fought in gaming that stretches back for decades, PCs versus consoles. At stake – the crown of the ultimate gaming experience - and this epic death-match has taken more twists or turns than a whole host of racing sims.
    On the one hand you have an ever-adapting power house of a machine – which brought the world networked gaming, cutting-edge graphics, awesome sound and some of the most immersive games ever created.

    On the other, you have systems that offer fabulous graphics and sound through your television, multiplayer gaming from the couch and that works right out of the box with the games that are meant to run on it.
    But have the latest consoles – the Xbox 360, the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo’s Wii – finally taken the quantum leap forward that has pushed the PC into retirement? Or has the PC – that most plucky of contenders got enough in the tank to bounce back once again?
    It’s an argument that has no simple answer – merely the opinions of the fanboy and enthusiast. Most gamers have used both consoles and PCs at one time or another, and many have both systems up and running in their home.

    Online

    One thing is for certain, the edge that the PC had over older consoles – even the mighty PS2 – has been negated entirely by the latest generation’s ability to offer multiplayer over the internet.
    Traditionally online gaming has been not just the stronghold but the fortress of the PC, with classic games like Quake, Unreal Tournament, Starcraft and Counter Strike all garnering massive dedicated followings.

    But the trailblazing original Xbox showed that, with the proliferation of broadband connections, console users were not only ready to start playing online but would actively embrace it in their masses.
    This fact has been a major factor in the fact that all three of the big players in the console market are trying to form social communities that play, compete and chat online without ever switching on a PC.

    Indeed, these newer and purpose built communities are often much more accessible to many – with the complications of servers and IP addresses, and a different method for every game, taking a back seat to simple graphical interfaces that merely let people play against likeminded competitors with the minimum of fuss.
    However, even with these changes you cannot discount the PC’s continued role in online gaming, with the current spate of massive and massively popular online role-playing games like World of Warcraft attracting millions of paying customers.
    Although first person shooters like Halo have shown that consoles can give people online action games as well, the PC’s mouse and keyboard setup is more accurate and therefore incredibly attractive to pro-gamers. On top of this, complicated real time strategy games are only just taking their first teetering steps into consoles.

    Easy peasy

    One area where the consoles do have an edge is in the ease of operation. Since the early days of cartridges, the concept of plug and play has ruled supreme, with people simply inserting the game into a machine and settling down.

    The PC on the other hand can be a difficult beast to tame. You have to check that your machine meets the minimum requirements for the game when you pick it up, make sure that you have the latest drivers and, latterly, that your internet connection is functioning – and that’s before you’ve even started to install the game on to your hard drive.
    Because the majority of PCs are different – with people upgrading at different rates and to different levels – making games run smoothly on all computers is an incredibly difficult task, so often people find that they get the latest software home only to have to seek out and/or download the latest patch just to make it run.

    Adaptability

    However, it is this lack of a definite build that actually gives the PC one of its biggest advantages; namely adaptability. To take a major technological leap forward with a PC you only need to replace the bits inside, adding more storage, more memory or a better graphics card.
    You can stay up to date with the highest quality graphics and sound, add the latest peripherals made by thousands of companies and, on top of this, your PC can help you do important things like accounts, graphics work and word processing – as well as giving you internet access in the way that you expect it.
    In fact, anything that a console can do, a PC can do – and often better – as well as a whole host of things that a console can’t. Because you can purpose build your system you can create an incredibly high-powered gaming rig, a brilliant media hub or a design studio.

    Cost

    Of course, all of this adaptability comes at a price. With a console, although the games are often more expensive, you need not worry about the games being too good to run on your machine until its replacement is brought out. With a PC, every major release pushed the boundary of graphics and sound, but with consoles the developers stick within defined limits.
    You can spend literally thousands of pounds keeping a PC from becoming obsolete, with graphics cards and processors taking major leaps forward every year.

    There is a flipside to this. An old console is more or less obsolete once their replacement is released. Developers stop releasing games and, even if your favourite game gets an occasional airing for nostalgia’s sake, your old pride and joy becomes an expensive door stop.
    With a PC, old bits can often be reused and even entire systems that are replaced remain useful to a degree for useful tasks like browsing or streaming media.

    Friends

    When it comes to having your mates around for a bit of social gaming, the consoles have an immediate edge. Televisions are made to be viewed by multiple people, monitors are not.
    Indeed, the Nintendo Wii has taken the social aspect of gaming to a new level, offering gameplay that is picked up quickly by non-traditional gameplayers, with its novel control methods meaning new accessibility.
    PC users have the online social network aspect, but sometimes it’s just not the same as having someone sat next to you on a sofa competing at football or racing games.

    Conclusion

    Are the latest generation of consoles the best yet? Undoubtedly. Is the PC all set to retire from gaming? No chance. The battle between the two is far from settled. For every Little Big Planet or Halo 3, there’s a Half Life 2 or Crysis. For every Grand Theft Auto or Mass Effect, a World in Conflict or World of Warcraft update.

    The best answer, it seems, is to try to have both a console and a PC, guaranteeing that you can have the best of both worlds. And if you think that’s a cop out then you are absolutely right…
  • Machiavel 4 Sep 2007 10:30:43 5,964 posts
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    "It's an argument that has no simple answer...

    the best answer, it seems..."

    Well that's everything wrapped up, and much quicker than usual.
  • Pike 4 Sep 2007 10:31:27 13,446 posts
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    Why produce that wall of text, when it's perfectly obvious that PC gaming is for handsome and intelligent grown ups and consoles are for children, idiots and idiotic children?
  • jonsaan 4 Sep 2007 10:31:29 25,342 posts
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    I could live without either but I prefer a world with both.

    FCUTA!

  • Blerk Moderator 4 Sep 2007 10:36:26 48,225 posts
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    Consoles were invented so that people could actually play the games rather than spending six weeks and £700 trying to get the damn thing to run before finally giving up and downloading porn. It is a scientifically proven fact that eyesight has improved and palms have become significantly less hairy since consoles became more popular.
  • warlockuk 4 Sep 2007 10:36:53 19,148 posts
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    Sex versus Blowjobs.

    Some people say sex is awesome, other people swear they prefer blowjobs as they're more convenient and easier to get into.

    I say both have their own merits.



    Same shit, really. You can play a console game on a big TV on the comfort of a sofa on unified architecture for a more-or-less common gaming experience (and almost level playing field online, lag and host advantage not withstanding).

    PCs have their merits two. But it's often really apples and oranges, y'know? The two are quite significantly different experiences.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • freaxgamer 4 Sep 2007 10:44:19 1,604 posts
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    anyone who cant get there PC running withing 6 hours of owning one ar seriously retarded.

    that includes building on from scratch!!
  • jonsaan 4 Sep 2007 10:47:56 25,342 posts
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    FluffyTucker wrote:
    I fucking hate FPSes

    Generally +1

    I get into about 1 per generation.

    FCUTA!

  • jellyhead 4 Sep 2007 10:48:00 24,350 posts
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    Both, i'd hate to see PC gaming die and consoles offer a different experience. Both are valid gaming platforms, choose one, go with it, enjoy the games and forget the other platforms.

    Sometimes i want a console game and other times i want a big, indepth game that uses all the keys on the keyboard. I also prefer the kb/mouse combo for FPS games.

    PC is more flexible, I do some coding and dev on my PC too which is another use that consoles don't offer at the moment.

    I'll always have both consoles and PC i reckon, in the same way that a single gaming console platform is not something i'm keen on either. Diversity is good.

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  • freaxgamer 4 Sep 2007 10:51:01 1,604 posts
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    doesn't anyone have there PC in there room, hooked up to the TV complete with Wireless contollers, & wireless K&M.

    you have not played a PC game until you've played it on a 50" Panasonic HDTV @ 1080p
  • toy_brain 4 Sep 2007 12:18:08 1,256 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    anyone who cant get there PC running withing 6 hours of owning one ar seriously retarded.
    Ahhh, I see the irony is strong with this one.
  • LeoliansBro 4 Sep 2007 12:22:29 43,796 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    you have not played a PC game until you've played it on a 50" Panasonic HDTV @ 1080p

    's funny, I remember playing Rome: Total War distinctly. That wasn't on a 50" fangly doodly bell-and-whistles, but I distinctly remember it.

    Ah well, must be my imagination.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • UncleLou Moderator 4 Sep 2007 12:39:11 35,506 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Consoles were invented so that people could actually play the games rather than spending six weeks and £700 trying to get the damn thing to run before finally giving up and downloading porn. It is a scientifically proven fact that eyesight has improved and palms have become significantly less hairy since consoles became more popular.

    But consoles are for kids and only have dumbed down games, don't you know.

    Hey, if Blerk can use arguments from 1989, so can I!

  • Machiavel 4 Sep 2007 12:44:04 5,964 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    you have not played a PC game until you've played it on a 50" Panasonic HDTV @ 1080p

    Whereas p0rn on a 50" HDTV @ 1080p would tend to support the failing eyesight, hairy palms argument...
  • LeoliansBro 4 Sep 2007 12:48:09 43,796 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    anyone who can't get their PC running withing 6 hours of owning one is seriously retarded.

    that includes building on from scratch!!

    Why would I want to give up an evening doing this, pray?

    Anyway, flamewars are supposed to be verboten.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • jellyhead 4 Sep 2007 12:52:57 24,350 posts
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    Leolian'sBro wrote:
    freaxgamer wrote:
    anyone who can't get their PC running withing 6 hours of owning one is seriously retarded.
    that includes building on from scratch!!
    Why would I want to give up an evening doing this, pray?
    Anyway, flamewars are supposed to be verboten.
    I really enjoy building my own machines, i've built all of them so far and although it's a bit scary fitting some of the components the feeling you get when you first cautiously power it up and it works is astounding.

    You're the King of the World!
    / stands on front of PC case \0/

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  • pauleyc 4 Sep 2007 12:53:28 4,447 posts
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    FluffyTucker wrote:
    PC games are best played at a nice comfy desk with a big CRT monitor
    With an CRT monitor it's almost like being outside - you're having fun and getting a tan.
  • Blerk Moderator 4 Sep 2007 12:55:10 48,225 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    But consoles are for kids and only have dumbed down games, don't you know.

    Hey, if Blerk can use arguments from 1989, so can I!
    That's absolutely true. You only have a Wii, don't you? ;-)
  • Genji 4 Sep 2007 12:55:20 19,689 posts
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    Consoles are just a plot to lure PC gamers away from their parent's basement... into the living room. Soon, the next stage will begin. Moving them... OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.

    FIGHT THE POWER
  • Killerbee 4 Sep 2007 12:55:54 5,016 posts
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    Surely the answer is that both have their place.

    Personally, I prefer playing on a PC for FPSes and strategy/RTS games, but I wouldn't want to use it to play a platformer, racer or action adventure game on.

    Gaming with a pad is better in front of the TV, but if you're going to be glued to your mouse and keyboard, sitting at a desk in front of a monitor is better.

    I can see why people don't get into PC gaming, because it is damn expensive to keep pace with the perpetual upgrade cycle, whereas you can rely on a console being good for up to 7 years or so.

    And even though when you've done it once you know how easy it is, the prospect of opening up your PC case to tinker with the insides - even just to replace a graphics card - can be a bit daunting.
  • silentbob 4 Sep 2007 12:57:50 28,956 posts
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    In a gay relationship - PC would be the Butch and Consoles would be the Bitch.

    Conclusion: Gaming is gay.

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  • pauleyc 4 Sep 2007 13:00:46 4,447 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    In a gay relationship - PC would be the Butch and Consoles would be the Bitch.

    Conclusion: Gaming is gay.
    Post of the year. :-)
  • UncleLou Moderator 4 Sep 2007 13:02:20 35,506 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    But consoles are for kids and only have dumbed down games, don't you know.

    Hey, if Blerk can use arguments from 1989, so can I!
    That's absolutely true. You only have a Wii, don't you? ;-)

    I also have a DS.

    Well.


    That's not going too well.



    But I had a PS2 once!
  • Genji 4 Sep 2007 13:05:19 19,689 posts
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    Nintendo... no, wait, Sony... no, wait, Microso... no, wait... Blizzard is destroying the lives of our children!
  • freaxgamer 4 Sep 2007 13:05:40 1,604 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    In a gay relationship - PC would be the Butch and Consoles would be the Bitch.

    Conclusion: Gaming is gay.

    This one deserves a BAFTA
  • [+..••] 4 Sep 2007 13:09:44 341 posts
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    I read that whole post.

    I demand compensation for my wasted time.
  • Genji 4 Sep 2007 13:17:13 19,689 posts
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    PCs and consoles should just learn to live together, man.

    /passes joint around
  • MadMirko 4 Sep 2007 13:47:29 2,974 posts
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    PC gaming needs to stay for the indie efforts and ultra hardcore strategy titles that aren't available anywhere else.

    Console gaming for everything else.
  • toy_brain 4 Sep 2007 14:36:24 1,256 posts
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    There is a time and a place for arguments like this.
    Namely www.pcvsconsole.com

    /Shudders
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