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  • Darren 1 Jul 2013 14:59:11 8,695 posts
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    @B0rked_Gamer - I've just watched the season opener and my guess is:

    Doctor Vogel likely knew Harry. If she had the drawings Dexter did then maybe she was treating Dexter as a child? I don't see why she would have the drawings otherwise and she is a 'neuro-psychiatrist specialising in child psychopaths' according to the Wikipedia Dexter Season 8 page. It would fit and Dexter wouldn't necessarily remember who she was if he was only young at the time (I'd say 5-8 years old from the drawings). Maybe she was the one who gave Harry the code in the first place?

    It was great to see Dexter back but he seems to be heading down a slippery road to his eventual demise I think. He was a lot less likeable as person in this opener; he lost his temper at least three times and almost slipped up twice.

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  • Darren 1 Jul 2013 15:56:57 8,695 posts
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    I've just had a silly thought about Doctor Vogel:

    She seems to be a prime candidate for the killer who is removing pieces of people's brains, the part that controls empathy, given that she seems to know so much about it and has an air of creepiness about her. If she treated Dexter as a child, based on the drawings she gave him, then what if she actually operated on him and removed that part of his brain, making him into what he is in the first place? She may have even done the same thing to Brian Mosser.

    I guess that would be extremely far-fetched not to mention a bit ridiculous but it could be a get out clause for Dexter, one that sees him not die at the end of the series because he would then be a true victim.

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  • Darren 1 Jul 2013 16:25:56 8,695 posts
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    Anyone else notice Batista picking up then ripping the warrants LaGuerta had to run a trace on Dexter and Deb's mobile phones? I've a feeling that is going to come back and haunt Dexter but I find it strange that he didn't destroy the warrants as he certainly knew about them. Even if he couldn't do it while LaGuera was alive, in case it aroused her suspicions further, he had ample time to get rid of them after she died. The fact that we saw Batista mention it means that it won't be the last time we see it, I reckon.

    Oh and normally I think Deb is a great character but she was really annoying in this episode. If anyone is going to bring about Dexter's downfall then it will be her.

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  • Deleted user 2 July 2013 02:18:40
    Dr. Vogel was the one who invented the code alongside Harry. This was explained in pre-season promo stuff.

    Even further than this first episode spoiler:

    She's also gotten involved because she's being stalked by the brain surgeon killer, and wants Dexter to find him and kill him. Apparently.
  • GuiltySpark 2 Jul 2013 07:08:36 6,320 posts
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    That was certainly better than the previous stuff, and it's fairly difficult to predict where it is going from here.

    As long as we stay away from extremely contrived scenarios like Hannah McKay and the godawful Doomsday Killer then we should be fine.

    Get bent.

  • Megapocalypse 2 Jul 2013 07:11:45 5,306 posts
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    Didn't Patista retire to run a bar last season?
  • GuiltySpark 2 Jul 2013 07:15:44 6,320 posts
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    Batista! And yeah probably. I honestly could not care less about any of the peripheral characters, I don't see why anyone would.

    Get bent.

  • Mola_Ram 2 Jul 2013 07:21:22 6,935 posts
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    Maybe they realised that a subplot about Batista opening a bar is just about the most dull thing one can imagine, and decided to just pretend like it never happened.
  • GuiltySpark 2 Jul 2013 07:28:46 6,320 posts
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    They do it a lot across seasons to be honest, sometimes even midseason. Like Issac killing that nerd guy who was pissing Dexter off, or that awful six episode story arc in S6 that went absolutely nowhere. I can't even begin to think of how to describe it. A hot Latino(?) cop was involved, or something.

    The writers are extremely strange.

    Get bent.

  • Scurrminator 2 Jul 2013 07:39:48 8,375 posts
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    Batista came back as he wanted to find who killed lasquirta

    You dare to strike Scurrcules!?

  • mikew1985 2 Jul 2013 08:23:50 12,584 posts
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    Yea he had a typically ham fisted one liner to explain away the retirement.

    The whole sweeping under the carpet of the LaGuerta murder and it's consequences is bloody ridiculous but anyway
  • TheSaint 2 Jul 2013 08:33:04 14,197 posts
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    So Deb has become Dog the bounty hunter now?
  • Megapocalypse 2 Jul 2013 08:36:25 5,306 posts
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    Yep its all nonsense. Hopefully it will be fun though.

    Nice to see angry Dexter losing control. I predict Vogel figuring out he's no longer sticking to the code and trying to put a stop to him now. I don't see a happy ending for Dexter. He became the villain the moment LaGuerta died.
  • L0cky 2 Jul 2013 09:34:23 1,498 posts
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    Season 8 is the last one, which is the only reason I'll watch it.
  • Mola_Ram 2 Jul 2013 09:44:30 6,935 posts
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    Look, hopefully because it's the last season, they'll just be able to let loose and go nuts, and have some actual things happening. Rather than the continual "Wow, wasn't that last season crazy? But don't worry, everything is the same and back to normal now" return to the status quo that has been how pretty much every season has operated so far.

    I barely even remember Rita now. It doesn't look like the show does either.
  • Darren 8 Jul 2013 14:07:56 8,695 posts
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    I've just watched the second episode. There's a nice opening scene with Doctor Vogel and Dexter. In fact, any scenes with the two of them in are far more interesting than anything else that happened, including the stuff with Deb. The episode otherwise plodded along as expected but was nothing special IMO. I was half expecting Hannah McKay to make an appearance in the last shot but even that didn't happen. The ending was actually kind of dull. Roll on next week.

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  • Mola_Ram 8 Jul 2013 14:12:40 6,935 posts
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    I actually thought it was pretty decent. I feel interested in what's going on, which I haven't been able to say about Dexter for a few seasons now.
  • Darren 9 Jul 2013 11:11:55 8,695 posts
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    I'm just finding the other characters a bit dull at the moment. The whole Quinn/Jamie thing especially is just yawnsome and Deb is actually annoying for the first time in the series for me. Their storylines are just not that interesting at the moment. This is the last season of Dexter so I would rather the series focused entirely on him. I'm fine with having scenes with Deb or Jamie/Quinn but only if they involve Dexter in some way.

    With 10 episodes left it seems that incidental stuff like Quinn/Jamie's relationship could have been dropped to focus on other more important and relevant stuff. I'm guessing that they decided on this sub-plot because Harrison no longer requires Jamie as a nanny but I think they would have been better just quietly writing her character out myself. Quinn hasn't really been interesting as a character since season 3 when he was onto Dexter. As a replacement for Doakes he has been deathly dull in all honesty and has far too many scenes.

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  • Iain815 9 Jul 2013 16:45:03 402 posts
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    I'm really liking the Vogel and Dexter scenes, but given the show has been really predictable before, it's looking a bit like Vogel is going to be the killer.
  • Dizzy 9 Jul 2013 16:52:19 2,566 posts
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    I'm guessing that they decided on this sub-plot because Harrison no longer requires Jamie as a nanny
    I think viewers probably wanted to see her naked :)

    It think it is pretty obvious already that Vogel is the killer. Why she does it is not clear... yet...
  • Darren 10 Jul 2013 16:18:14 8,695 posts
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    Iain815 wrote:
    I'm really liking the Vogel and Dexter scenes, but given the show has been really predictable before, it's looking a bit like Vogel is going to be the killer.
    In previous seasons of Dexter, we've always seen the killer even if we didn't actually know they were the killer so I would agree with you that it looks very much like Dr. Vogel is the serial killer. It was very convenient that she rang Dexter about an intruder but it turned out that no-one was there. It could have been a ruse to make Dexter believe there was someone and divert suspicion away from her. However, it does seem rather predictable so I really do hope there is a not so obvious twist otherwise it'd be disappointing. Of course, it is possible that it is someone we haven't seen yet but one thing I am certain of is that it isn't Hannah McKay! Maybe Deb has snapped and become a serial killer? lol

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  • Scurrminator 12 Jul 2013 22:54:31 8,375 posts
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    It will be mass effect chick.
    She was young when she started. Likely that Vogel treated her. She escaped last series. shes in this series
    Done.

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  • Bigsmoke 13 Jul 2013 14:07:00 43 posts
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    Yeah looking like Dr Vogel is the killer to me but I admit it does seem very obvious! I'm saying this now, I don't obviously know how the series will end but I predict that in the last scenes they will leave it with us thinking that Harrison is going to grow up like Dexter! maybe somehow he will end up seeing someone die and end up covered in blood like Dexter was when he was rescued as child by Harry.

    Thats how I would finish it if I was writing it! haha
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 13 Jul 2013 14:39:38 529 posts
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    Bigsmoke wrote:
    Yeah looking like Dr Vogel is the killer to me but I admit it does seem very obvious! I'm saying this now, I don't obviously know how the series will end but I predict that in the last scenes they will leave it with us thinking that Harrison is going to grow up like Dexter! maybe somehow he will end up seeing someone die and end up covered in blood like Dexter was when he was rescued as child by Harry.

    Thats how I would finish it if I was writing it! haha
    Didn't that already happen with Rita's death?
  • Scurrminator 13 Jul 2013 15:01:08 8,375 posts
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    Someone mentioned it would be cool if it ended with him on death row narrating. So all his inner monologues had been him talking about it.

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  • Mola_Ram 13 Jul 2013 15:05:29 6,935 posts
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    He would have driven the other inmates and guards to suicide by now though.
  • Darren 17 Jul 2013 16:41:09 8,695 posts
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    So either no-one has watched this week's episode or people are just not interested in talking about Dexter anymore...

    Anyway, I thought this week's episode was OK but it only really got interesting in the last ten minutes when a drunk Deb confessed to Quinn that she killed LaGuerta. Is it any wonder Quinn has never passed his sergeant exam if he cannot put one and one together and realise what it was she was telling him. I find it especially odd given the history Quinn had with Dexter in season 3.

    I don't think Doctor Vogel is interested in helping Deb though, I think it is the opposite. I believe that her methods are not only unorthodox but likely trigger psychopathic tendencies in her patients and she wants to tip Deb over the edge now she's a loose cannon. Why I'm not sure. Maybe she thinks Dexter cannot be absolutely perfect until Deb is out of the picture as she seemed very interested in how Dexter felt about his sister. Or maybe she's setting Dexter up by having him investigate her former patients, knowing full well that Dexter wouldn't be able to resist dispatching the "naughty" ones. Whatever, I don't think she has Dexter's best interest heart and it is also clear from this episode that she is not the Brain Surgeon killer as why would she send herself a text notifying her of the parcels if there was no-one else with her?

    I've read some rumours that Tom Matthews might be involved in covering for Dexter, that he is either protecting Dexter (seeing as he warned him LaGuerta was investigating Doakes' missing boat giving Dexter time to plant evidence for her to find) or that he called Doctor Vogel in when they suspected that Dexter might not be following the Code properly (since they would assume that he killed LaGuerta not Deb). He was a close friend of Harry so it's possible that he may know more than he lets on.

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  • B0rked_Gamer 5 Aug 2013 06:41:16 2,480 posts
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    Worst episode of Dexter ever. I cannot believe how bad this show has got. Most of this latest episode was full of completely meaningless relationship crap that went nowhere and then the reveal...

    Ugh.
  • Mola_Ram 5 Aug 2013 06:53:35 6,935 posts
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    Yeah, it's not good. It's just... boring. The final season of a show like this should not be boring.
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