I've seen a few posts from people saying that using a VGA cable for your 360 is better than component, if you have a hdtv. I would just like to know if this is widely accepted or just preference. I only really know about component and HDMI which I thought was best.
VGA better than component?
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Aretak 9,912 posts
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Registered 10 years agoHDMI is definetly the best, but there's little difference between VGA and component. One might look better on one TV and the other on another (for example my TV has a terrible VGA input, so I use component). The one advantage VGA does have is that the 360 will upscale DVDs via that output, whereas it won't via component (and neither will anything else, since upscaling DVDs via component is an industry no-no). I just use my PS3 for the purposes of upscaling DVDs. -
thefilthandthefury 24,477 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYeah Aretak has it spot on. Some TVs look better with VGA, some look better with component. -
theleedslads 450 posts
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Registered 6 years agoOn my samsung 32" theres no contest between VGA & COMPONENT using both official cables.
The VGA display is much much better, and the component looks just horrible!
Im still not convinced it is any different on any other HDTV's as all the VGA vs COMPONENT writeups on the internet state VGA as the clear winner.
Im still not convinced HDMI is far superior than VGA either!!!!!! can someone tell me the difference? i have full 5.1 dolby digital and crystal clear video coming out of my VGA Cable already, just need convincing its worth my while to get an elite i guess!
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Aretak 9,912 posts
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Registered 10 years agotheleedslads wrote:
Apparently that's not true though, as I just stated differently above.
Im still not convinced it is any different on any other HDTV's as all the VGA vs COMPONENT writeups on the internet state VGA as the clear winner. -
Aretak 9,912 posts
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Registered 10 years agoOh, and EG took some comparison shots of HDMI, VGA and component using the 360 a while back...
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78009
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78011
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78012
So judge for yourself. You'll need to click 'View original+' to see any difference. -
steellam 1,045 posts
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Registered 7 years agotheleedslads wrote
Im still not convinced HDMI is far superior than VGA either!!!!!! can someone tell me the difference?
HDMI os digital, VGA is analogue therefore not specced to carry 1080p
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Luvbeers 908 posts
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Registered 6 years agotheleedslads wrote:
same on my samsung 40".
On my samsung 32" theres no contest between VGA & COMPONENT using both official cables.
The VGA display is much much better, and the component looks just horrible! -
JayeM 3,385 posts
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Registered 7 years agosteellam wrote:
VGA is perfectly capable of 1920x1080@60Hz.
theleedslads wrote
Im still not convinced HDMI is far superior than VGA either!!!!!! can someone tell me the difference?
HDMI os digital, VGA is analogue therefore not specced to carry 1080p
Edited by steellam at 08:46:42 18-07-2007.gif)
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Whizzo 41,115 posts
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Registered 11 years agoPre-update that allowed you to set the RGB levels VGA was inferior to component on my tv/monitor due to being washed out, it's now just as good possibly even a bit better.
For most 720P TVs you can run VGA at what the TV's native resolution is as well (1366x768) so there's no scaling done.This space left intentionally blank.
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nickthegun 44,375 posts
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Registered 7 years agoOn my LG LCD, there wasnt much in it. The colours were more vivid on component but the picture quality was sharper on VGA.
The recent update ironed out some of the problems with the VGA colour issue, so I connect by that every time, but in the real world, the issue isnt as clear cut as people make out.
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Evil_Moe 55 posts
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Registered 6 years agoGive up Deem. -
theleedslads 450 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI still think there is a huge difference in quality on VGA over COMPONENT, it just seems silly to me for anyone to suggest otherwise! -
Yossarian 8,400 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI can certainly vouch that VGA is better on a monitor than component.
(my monitor has component inputs, but the lack of tearing compared to VGA is offset by noticeable aliasing on just about everything)
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qwerty123 217 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAretak wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 360 upscales DVD to 720p via component. I agree with the VGA/Component argument though, it really does depend on your TV. The people who say their picture looks bad via component should try setting it up properly if the TV allows. My Sony 32D3000 has a setup for each individual AV input, so I can set up the analogue TV, digital TV, Wii and 360 independently, and after about 10mins of testing on forza2 and GoW the picture now looks amazing. You may need to increase the sharpness.
HDMI is definetly the best, but there's little difference between VGA and component. One might look better on one TV and the other on another (for example my TV has a terrible VGA input, so I use component). The one advantage VGA does have is that the 360 will upscale DVDs via that output, whereas it won't via component (and neither will anything else, since upscaling DVDs via component is an industry no-no). I just use my PS3 for the purposes of upscaling DVDs. -
JayeM 3,385 posts
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Registered 7 years agoqwerty123 wrote:
It doesn't.
I'm pretty sure the 360 upscales DVD to 720p via component.
I'm using VGA on my 32D3000 and have the sharpness set to "Min", looks amazing.
I haven't tried the component cable yet but I doubt it could look any better. -
qwerty123 217 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJayeM wrote:
Recommend I get the VGA then? You had any problems with washed out colours? Did you get the official one?
I'm using VGA on my 32D3000 and have the sharpness set to "Min", looks amazing.
When setting the sharpness to minimum I thought the picture looked a bit too blurry, I think I set mine to 25 while using component then played around with the many colour settings.
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JayeM 3,385 posts
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Registered 7 years agoWell, I'd have to see what component looked like in comparison (I think I might test it later if I can be bothered setting it up), but it's probably not worth it if you're happy with your picture now.
The colours look great for me over VGA, though one thing that might be worth mentioning is that you lose a lot of the options if you use VGA (like the motion enhancer).
One thing I have noticed though is that the 360 over VGA looks better than the PS3 over HDMI to my eyes which was surprising.
And yeah, I got the official cable (£17.99 from Play.com).
With VGA you get 1:1 pixel mapping, with component you get about 2.5% overscan, which might be worth considering.
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Der_tolle_Emil 7,290 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJayeM wrote:
I think this is the reason why VGA looks better on many TVs. I know that my TV resizes the image to match overscan, which results in a slightly more blurry image. I haven't tried VGA yet (I only have one VGA input which accepts component as well so I would have to buy a switcher) but I have PC hooked up to the TV as well and the resolutions look astonishingly sharp with 1:1 pixel mapping.
With VGA you get 1:1 pixel mapping, with component you get about 2.5% overscan, which might be worth considering.
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qwerty123 217 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJayeM wrote:
It's no sale for me then, I have the motion enhancer set to high and the difference is amazing. I assume thats the 100Hz kicking in. The clarity and detail of the environment while stood still remains even when you move, its so smooth.
one thing that might be worth mentioning is that you lose a lot of the options if you use VGA (like the motion enhancer).
Might still be worth getting the VGA for DVDs at 720p though.
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Grunk 4,717 posts
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Registered 8 years agoAlso depends on how far you're setting up the 360 away from the TV. -
uiruki 3,071 posts
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Registered 10 years agoJayeM wrote:
Conversely, that's exactly why I like using VGA - I hate it when a tell tries to put information into an image which isn't there in the name of 'image enhancement'. I remember playing Sega Rally on Saturn on a friend's Philips Pixel Plus TV, and it felt like my corneas were melting.
The colours look great for me over VGA, though one thing that might be worth mentioning is that you lose a lot of the options if you use VGA (like the motion enhancer).
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Der_tolle_Emil 7,290 posts
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Registered 7 years agoYou can turn Pixel Plus off, I own a Philips TV. On mine the 360 on 1080i and component looks better with it switched on though. -
qwerty123 217 posts
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Registered 7 years ago@uiruki
You really need to see the motion enhancer to believe. It doesn't add or change the image it just makes everything twice as smooth and looks fantastic. I was talking to a guy on Gears and he also commented how great the picture was on his 100Hz Samsung.
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Razz 57,905 posts
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Registered 11 years agoAretak wrote:
HDMI is sharper. You can tell by the decals on the bonet.
Oh, and EG took some comparison shots of HDMI, VGA and component using the 360 a while back...
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78009
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78011
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78012
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Paukl 136 posts
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Registered 6 years agotheleedslads wrote:
I've got a Samsung 32" meself and have been tempted bya VGA cable, but only as I've just bought a Wii which looks horendous through standard cables, so I want to try running that thorugh component. That said, I've got no complaints about the 360 component picture.
On my samsung 32" theres no contest between VGA & COMPONENT using both official cables.
The VGA display is much much better, and the component looks just horrible!
It's really starting to sound like this is the way to go...
Edited by Paukl at 16:54:45 19-07-2007
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Der_tolle_Emil 7,290 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAlso there is no guarantee that the capture equipment handles all sources equally well - so there could be quality differences as well.
The images look almost identical. The only thing you really can make out of it is that the 360 looks the same on all cables if the receiver handles the signals equally well. So it's all down to the TV and HDMI does not necessarily look better than component or VGA. -
CyberClaw 2,081 posts
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Registered 10 years agoA thing to note, is that VGA can choose other resolutions. LCD TVs are known to use weird native resolutions.
They'll many times use true XWGA (1366×768) instead of 720p (1280x720) as their native resolution. With the VGA adapter you can choose other resolutions other than the regular HDTV ones. (although I'm not sure it supports true XWGA, and some games like PGR3 get odd shaped if you choose a 4:3 resolution) -
Qwerty: I've just tried my 360 via component and I couldn't see that much difference, VGA is just a bit sharper.
Though one thing I did notice with the motion enhancer set to high was that objects sort of broke up when they moved really fast, you should be able to see this when moving between blades on the dashboard really fast (left and right, back and forth).
That didn't happen on VGA or with the motion enhancer set to standard. The same thing was reported by some review sites. -
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