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  • kentmonkey 10 Jun 2007 17:13:02 20,448 posts
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    Quick question

    My Dad hasn't run any updates for 2 years so I've been round there today updating XP.

    Problem is, after 7 hours it's still installing updates (service pack 2 etc.) and it's still wanting to download more and it's running really slow.

    Should I just re-install XP and update it? Do Updates generally take this long?
  • X201 10 Jun 2007 17:19:01 15,138 posts
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    kentmonkey wrote:
    Quick question

    My Dad hasn't run any updates for 2 years so I've been round there today updating XP.

    Problem is, after 7 hours it's still installing updates (service pack 2 etc.) and it's still wanting to download more and it's running really slow.

    Should I just re-install XP and update it? Do Updates generally take this long?

    You should have installed key updates separately before anything else.

    Installing SP2 on it's own will remove the need for the earlier fixes because they are part of it.

    Same goes for IE7 - Wipes our the need for all of the IE6 patches.

    Media Player does the same. Go straight to 11 and avoid need for earlier updates.

    We had this problem, of taking ages to update at work, and found that this was the quickest way to update without using an image disc.

    As it is now.. just leave it on auto update and it'll sort itself out over the week.


    If you need to shut-down you can, update will install what it's got and get the rest at a later date.

    Edited by X201 at 17:21:36 10-06-2007
  • kentmonkey 10 Jun 2007 17:24:17 20,448 posts
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    Strange thing was that it took nearly two and a half hours to install SP2 and then it seemed to get stuck on the last part (I think cleanup) and I had to turn the machine off, now it's just installed another 15 updates. No idea when it's going to end though! o_O
  • kentmonkey 10 Jun 2007 18:22:29 20,448 posts
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    Another 54 updates just been downloaded!!! :o(

    Problem is, I go on update myself and say "custom" but it then sits on the "detecting available updates" page for ever without doing anything and then updates just start automatically coming down.

    I can't believe it should take this long to install updates either, it's taking about 1 minute per "update" so these 54 will take 54 minutes. I've done so many now though I don't want to quit it just in case it does speed up after all of this.

  • beep 10 Jun 2007 22:44:13 447 posts
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    I was in a similar position a year and a half ago. I basically refused to update my XP which only had SP1. When I did finally get around to updating, I downloaded the whole Service Pack 2 as a standalone executable (it's well over 200MB) and installed that first, then connected to the internet and let it do its thing.

    It's always good to download the major updates manually just in case of future crap outs which require re-installs.
  • Scimarad 11 Jun 2007 06:44:39 8,530 posts
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    I had a similar problem - I let it try and sort the updates out itself and it made a complete mess of it. You really need to install SP2 seperately and then let it update the rest.
  • Aurifex. 11 Jun 2007 08:41:14 1,030 posts
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    Unless you do a clean install and do a "slipstream" install with SP already on it. It's easy to do, just google it. There is a free program that will add the files for you and then just burn it to disc.
  • BartonFink 11 Jun 2007 08:50:36 34,853 posts
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    Oh dear
  • Pirotic Moderator 11 Jun 2007 08:53:01 20,646 posts
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    Xiphos wrote:
    by the time you are done with the updates you will have removed any possibility of your PC's performance that could be considered 'fast'

    don't even install sp2 (stick to sp1)
    just get a decent hardware firewall SPI/router/broadband device
    keep dx9 up-to-date (I think we're on April 2007 at the moment)

    don't install Microsoft updates
    they're designed for idiots, by the socially inept


    To be fair, if you've installed their operating system you are sort of shooting yourself in the foot by not downloading the updates for it.

    Just download SP2, download Direct-X, Media Player and Internet Explorer. whack all that on first (in that order) and then let it auto update the rest.

    Edited by Pirotic at 08:58:01 11-06-2007
  • Whizzo 11 Jun 2007 08:56:00 43,036 posts
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    Not installing SP2 is probably one of the most daft suggestions I've seen on this forum.

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  • Deleted user 11 June 2007 09:00:13
    Only one of the most daft? :p
  • Blerk Moderator 11 Jun 2007 09:01:39 48,225 posts
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    Remember that Xiphos isn't quite right in the head, though.
  • BartonFink 11 Jun 2007 09:12:43 34,853 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Remember that Xiphos isn't quite right in the head, though.
    Well with suggestions like that you may be being a little too kind.
  • Whizzo 11 Jun 2007 09:14:02 43,036 posts
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    boabg wrote:
    Only one of the most daft? :p
    Well there's lots to choose from I'll admit... ;-)

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  • X201 11 Jun 2007 10:08:15 15,138 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    boabg wrote:
    Only one of the most daft? :p
    Well there's lots to choose from I'll admit... ;-)
    Sensible Soccer 9/10
  • terminalterror 11 Jun 2007 10:16:08 18,937 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    boabg wrote:
    Only one of the most daft? :p
    Well there's lots to choose from I'll admit... ;-)

    Microsoft buys Linux was probably my favourite, off the top of my head.
  • neilka 11 Jun 2007 12:06:08 15,665 posts
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    It's actually a known problem with XP which means that updates can sometimes take hours with the CPU stuck at 100% usage:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/927891.mspx
  • kentmonkey 12 Jun 2007 18:27:19 20,448 posts
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    Yep it was Microsoft Update AND then when I got that sorted ZoneAlarm was also screwing his boot-time and performance up. Works fine on mine, was making his crawl to a halt. All sorted now.

    Chuffing machines, 12 hours I spent on that! :o(
  • Carrybagma 12 Jun 2007 18:53:35 3,904 posts
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    I wonder if Xiphos is actually correct - the more patches you stick on XP, the worse it seems to get. I've not tried it yet, but next time I re-install XP, I'll probably just do SP2 and then get the latest version of the stuff I have to use - IE, and maybe the mediaplayer.

    I mean, if you trust Microsoft so much, then why does anyone complain about Vista?

    Edited by Carrybagma at 18:54:05 12-06-2007
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