There's always save points just before hard bosses. There's a few instances where there's dungeons that you can't get out of, so be sure to carry a lot of Tents and Cottages before you enter any dungeons. The FF rule of thumb is the same though - if you can comfortably beat the enemies in the dungeon, you should be able to do the boss (with a little strategy).
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoMetal_Slime wrote:
Magma Stone
Someone please tell me what I am supposed to throw into that well in that village where I am supposed to go to the underworld.. I am obviously too lazy/afraid of hitting spoilers to search GameFAQs.
If you just got the airship, there's a good chance you've stumbled in to Agart before you're supposed to. In which case you need to continue the story in Troia (in the northwest) -
ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYou can't miss the stone, it's a crucial plot piece after you beat a compulsory section. I'm not entirely sure where you are. Have you been to Troia yet? Have you been to the Dark Elf cave? -
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Registered 8 years agoYou get it at the end of the Tower of Zot. After you get the crystal back from the elf, and give it to the women in Troia castle, when you exit Troia and get back on your ship, you are automatically taken to the Tower of Zot and can't leave until you have the magma stone. -
Fernando 636 posts
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Registered 6 years agoso as someone who hasnt played any of the FF4 remakes/editions, is it a good start for me to start with this one? havent played FF3 either, should i play that first or not? -
david78 829 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJust got this yesterday.
It's a muvh better game than III, that's for sure. -
ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoFernando wrote:
It's not a bad one to start with, but this game is really hard compared to the PlayStation Final Fantasy games, and you may get frustrated.
so as someone who hasnt played any of the FF4 remakes/editions, is it a good start for me to start with this one? havent played FF3 either, should i play that first or not?
It's not very often I'll say this, but you're really not missing anything by not playing III. It's crap, basically. -
mowgli 32,134 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThe American version of 3 was excellent because you could expoloit the cheat for potions and phoenix downs and make the game actually playable. I was so pissed of when I bought it again recently in the UK and they removed the cheat/glitch.Pissy pants.
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoNah, it wasn't just that, the story was really bad. Yes, I know it was an accurate remake of the NES game, when stories weren't so in depth, but it doesn't stop it being crap. -
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IV has a good story, shame I enjoyed it more on the GBA though (I think the lack of colour on the DS puts me off slightly). -
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Registered 10 years agoCan someone just clarify for me - can you save in the dungeons in this one? In FFIII you couldn't and it was a game breaker... -
ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYeah it's better on the GBA. The graphics have a lot more character, and it doesn't have the horrible 3D cutscenes that raped the memory of several characters for me.
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoTomo wrote:
Yes you can. Again, the only reason you couldn't save in dungeons in III was because it was a direct remake of the NES game. IV on the SNES had better technology.
Can someone just clarify for me - can you save in the dungeons in this one? In FFIII you couldn't and it was a game breaker...
I didn't find it a game breaker in III though IF you ran through the dungeons and ran from all the battles. The dungeons are so short in III that you can literally run all the way through them in about a minute. In IV you actually have much longer distances between save points in dungeons than you do in the entirety of a dungeon in III, because IV's dungeons are so much bigger. -
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Registered 10 years agoAye, regardless of whether it's a FFIII thing, I just can't be bothered with that. Got better things to do.
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Registered 5 years agoI am playing the game right now. The increased difficulty really brings the game alive, and the new abilities system brings customization up to par with newer FF games. -
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Registered 8 years agoNotwhollysane wrote:
Not really, it's a rubbish addition. First, most of the augments are nearly impossible to get without a guide. Second, you have to give augments to characters you don't want in order to get other augments. So you HAVE to give certain augments to certain characters if you want to get other one - where's the customization in that? Third, you have to give augments to characters you know will never be in your party again. This is a punishment to people who'd played the original, since nobody who was familiar with the original would logically give augments to characters they knew would leave the party at the next cut scene. So it's basically fucking over the original fanbase. Smart choice, that. It's a really badly thought out feature.
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Registered 7 years agoI just got the Airship, after fighting Ignazzio. The games much more enjoyable than III though, the fact that IV is a better game in the first place is everything. Nice story, good characters and the voice acting (It's not that great) at least brings some depth to the characters.
I have a feeling it's gonna start getting ridiculously hard soon, though. -
ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI think the voice acting ruins it somewhat. It's absolutely atrocious, only Cecil and Kain are reasonable, the others are just embarrassingly bad. It actually brings less depth to the characters IMO. With the original, it was almost like reading a book. The graphics did little and the text was good, but in this remake the horrible blocky graphics and awful voice acting went someways to completely destroying the grandiose scale my own imagination had created in watching the scenes in the original game. -
david78 829 posts
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Because it's actually a better game when it's hard?The most controversial change is in the difficultly level, which has actually been ramped up significantly. Or rather it's been reinstated from the original Japanese version.
Why, why do to they do this? Screw this game.
Seriously, you'll play it and have to think up strategies instead of it being hammer attack all the time like Blue Dragon (It sucked).
It's never that hard it you have a good strategy I find, although I think I'm about half way through so it could get worse. -
david78 829 posts
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Registered 7 years agoblizeH wrote:
Reading through the thread, you've played the GBA one, which is the same difficulty as this one (I think) so I don't know why you're bringing the difficulty up now.
I like Dragon Quest-esque difficulty; something that occasionally makes you have to really think about what you're doing, but not too challenging and punishing. The fact they've made an already very difficult game even more difficult doesn't appeal to me.
What's wrong with difficulty settings nowadays?
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoblizeH wrote:
They didn't reinstate the difficulty of the Japanese version, it's harder than that. I've played (and completed) the original Japanese SNES version, and it's definitely tougher than that. Not help by the fact they completely nerfed Kain in this version.The most controversial change is in the difficultly level, which has actually been ramped up significantly. Or rather it's been reinstated from the original Japanese version.
Why, why do to they do this? Screw this game.
Anyway, the DS version is only hard if you never played other Final Fantasy games. If you take your time and level up, and don't run from many battles in dungeons, it should be easy enough.
It's definitely harder than the GBA version, which is the second easiest version after US Easytype on the SNES. The GBA version added tons of new stuff that wasn't in any other version, such as double jump ability for Kain, and Ribbons prevent Berserk, stuff like that. This is definitely the hardest version, it's a bit more raw than the others, but it's not unfairly hard. -
david78 829 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIt's harder?
Never knew that, I just assumed it was the same. Still, I've found it managable so far and the difficulty makes it a much better game IMO, as it's hard without being ridiculous like III was at times. -
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Registered 9 years agoEcureuil just wait until you face Golbez in the Underworld and then tell me the game's not unfairly hard
. One bloody annoying bit that leaves me wanting to smash the game into pieces. The Master of Unlocking.
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoIII was easy though.
This is a lot harder, especially if you don't already know how to play the game. I actually died three times during the course of the game, on three different bosses, which is more than in any other Final Fantasy game I've ever played (FFVII, and optional uber-bosses excluded). I even died less in the original Japanese version than this.
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ecureuil 74,324 posts
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Registered 8 years agoCosmopolitan wrote:
Done it all.
Ecureuil just wait until you face Golbez in the Underworld and then tell me the game's not unfairly hard. One bloody annoying bit that leaves me wanting to smash the game into pieces..gif)
The bosses that killed me were -
Dark Elf, Dr. Lugae last form and a group of Flan Princesses when I forgot to wear crystal armour.
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blizeH wrote:
I dunno, there's just something about this game to me that makes me feel the levelling is well balanced and I've not had to grind so far - I just play the game normally not running from too many fights and I'm strong enough to fight the boss.ecureuil wrote:
Boooooo!
Best advice is simply to level up a lot, and to save a lot.
Besides, there's save points in the dungeons now so it's not a disaster if I do have to grind at some point. -
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