576i vs 480p

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  • PodlingJuice 4 May 2007 10:48:45 262 posts
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    I've just got one of those new fangled HDTV things with component inputs so I decided to purchase a component cable for my Wii, hasn't arrived yet.

    I've been running it through RGB scart at 576i. Should I expect a big difference when my component cable arrives?

    I've been thinking, and surely the only difference between 576i and 480p is the refresh rate, 25Hz vs 60Hz, and might I even get a worse picture due to the decrease in horizontal lines?

    I guess I'll find out when my cable arrives. Just wondered if anyone's had any experience with this? Have I wasted my money?
  • Razz 4 May 2007 10:50:39 61,205 posts
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    Progressive adds a bit of sharpness and clarity, but you definately notice the drop in resolution. some games actually look better in 576i.

    Edited by Razz at 10:54:14 04-05-2007

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  • LeoliansBro 4 May 2007 10:51:53 44,246 posts
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    Yeah, agree with Razz, but generally 480p ftw.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • yegon 4 May 2007 11:08:49 5,274 posts
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    TP looked significantly better in 576i.
  • PodlingJuice 4 May 2007 11:16:40 262 posts
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    Cheers guys, looks like I'll stick to 576i. I've just cancelled my component cable order. Luckily it was out of stock. :)

    Edit: Just thought, there's no point running 576i through component instead of RGB is there? Don't some TVs have problems with this anyway for VC games?

    Edited by PodlingJuice at 11:19:13 04-05-2007
  • Blerk Moderator 4 May 2007 11:26:19 48,225 posts
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    So none of you are bothering to run stuff in PAL60 mode, then?

    Frame rate ftw, no? No?

    You're an odd bunch, you Wiiers. :-)
  • Blerk Moderator 4 May 2007 11:30:02 48,225 posts
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    rodpad wrote:
    Resolution over framerate. 5/10fps is nothing
    I knew you'd pop up!

    No, you're wrong. 5fps is 16% of your frames skipped or your game running 16% slower. That's bloody noticeable, regardless of what you reckon. :-)

    /awaits Cappy
  • Blerk Moderator 4 May 2007 11:33:06 48,225 posts
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    frod wrote:
    no, the PAL conversions seem to be spot on.
    The difference was noticeable in the Cube version of Zelda. I surmise the Wii version was the same.
  • JetSetWilly 4 May 2007 11:33:49 5,721 posts
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    I don't understand why we don't get a 576p option.
  • deem 4 May 2007 11:38:55 31,641 posts
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  • Tonka 4 May 2007 11:51:09 20,436 posts
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    I find the loss of frames really noticeable. Just look at the scrolling text in the Vote Channel thumbnail to see it.

    Jerk o vision galore.

    480p all the way

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Tonka 4 May 2007 11:56:08 20,436 posts
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    Say what.
    /twiches eye

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Der_tolle_Emil 4 May 2007 11:58:13 7,301 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    JetSetWilly wrote:
    I don't understand why we don't get a 576p option.
    Would be nice.

    Anyways, Wii games seem to run full speed in 576i mode anyways. :)

    Not all. And at any rate 480p over component looks a lot nicer than 480i or 576i anyway on my HDTV. It's actuall quite noticeable - although it would not make all that much difference on a CRT I guess.
  • PodlingJuice 4 May 2007 12:25:23 262 posts
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    Ghaa! What have I started?

    I think I'll just try out both to see which I like before buying another cable. I have already spent 18 on an RGB scart after all.

    Now to find a component cable to borrow........

    Thanks for the advice chaps. I guess it really depends on the TV and how well it handles 576i.

    No matter what I do, I don't think it'll look as good as it did on my old CRT. :(

    See what you've done PS3 with your shiny HD graphics!!
  • Sysagent 4 May 2007 12:39:56 5 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    Say what.
    /twiches eye

    That made me rofl out loud here in J Block...
  • MadMirko 4 May 2007 13:08:30 2,974 posts
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    PodlingJuice wrote:
    Thanks for the advice chaps. I guess it really depends on the TV and how well it handles 576i.

    That AND how your eyes and brain work together. :) Some people like TVs others find hard to look at, some see flickering where others don't, some find colours bright and clear when others say they are oversaturated, and so forth.

    When it comes to display / TV quality, there is no other way than to try for yourself.


    No matter what I do, I don't think it'll look as good as it did on my old CRT. :(

    FWIW, I never looked back since getting my Bravia. Actually I did, but could only stand it for a few moments. :)
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  • BonzoBanana 13 Oct 2013 07:10:14 88 posts
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    2.40

    Pretty cheap wii component cables are available and often as good if not better than official nintendo cables.
  • AaronTurner 13 Oct 2013 07:20:54 7,741 posts
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    Laugh out loud
  • yegon 13 Oct 2013 16:09:13 5,274 posts
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    I might order some of those cables with my T-Mobile Vario II rocking Windows Mobile 5.0. I get 50mb data a month, may as well use it!
  • AaronTurner 2 Nov 2013 08:33:59 7,741 posts
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    Good bump, I'm sure the Xbox one crew will probably want an answer to this too.
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