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foster2007 wrote:Sounds awfully a lot like a sales pitch.
For those who suffer with anxiety, depression, i'd advise you try drinking matcha green tea, it has this lovely calming effect that I have yet to find with any food/drink product. Get yourself a matcha making kit off amazon and for the tea itself, I tend to use superchimps matcha.
Mighty Matcha is also quite decent, I believe its organic too, superchimps offering not being organic.
Edited by foster2007 at 09:40:10 08-09-2017
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elstoof 19,611 posts
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The toxically masculine man himself
This thing is really kicking my butt. I feel like my medicine is less effective than it used to be, yet the side effects are getting worse.
azurelas_2 1,774 posts
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I don't even know how to start.
I was a depressed teenager until well into my 20s (I'm 29 now). I think I'm over it, but of course some days are better than others.
Now, my mother was killed last week Wednesday, and just 2 days before her birthday. Every day since then has been so painful. I seem to have a good girlfriend, and a very supportive family around me, but the same feelings I had are back in force.
I'm not looking for advice, I just need to vent. And let it out. Please don't be dicks about it.
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Dougs 84,920 posts
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Sorry for your loss.
Don't be afraid to ask for help, especially if you have a history of depression and take time to grieve.
Skirlasvoud 3,420 posts
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This thread is usually pretty good about being dick-free.
Especially when murder is involved. Jezus! I'm so sorry to hear that.
I'm really sorry for your loss, azurelas. I wish you strength and clarity in the next months.
I feel the same at the moment but mines all family related and my wife is sending me to the docs next week as I started with anxiety a while ago now that's just getting worse. In the past I got put on beta blockers which helped. Pm me if you like mate.
Is it just the work that's making you feel like this or do you have similar difficulty with other things in your life?
I have a percentage capacity thing that may or may not be of help. When I have things that I class as problems and need sorting out, they take a certain percentage of my brain power as it were. It can be fine to have things that are up to around 60/70% as everyone has shit in their life.
But I find that if it goes above 90% then things start to fall off. And it doesn't matter what it is - it doesn't matter how small a thing it is, if it tips the pot, then that's that.
When it happens, I get upright, short of breath, think the worst - you know the drill.
The way I deal with it is to look at each thing in turn and try and deal with them one at a time.
Gut instinct is a massively important thing with this method, as you have to make changes and see how you feel about them.
However, looking back at your post, it seems it's mainly focused around your current job situation - is that right?
If you imagined yourself in a job where you didn't really fuss about it and just went there and left again, does that feel like it would help?
sounds all too familiar...felt very similar just before i had my breakdown a few years back, a combination or work-related stress, exhaustion and child's illness...one of the final markers for me was standing there in morrisons sobbing over which tins of soup to buy...a few days later i was off for 4-5 months...
my advice, pal, would be to take it in hand now - whether that's going through things with hr or getting in touch with the docs...that's going to be the best way of dealing with it all...yes, there's all the self-help malarky but you need guidance at the beginning...
the other option is private counselling but that ain't going to come cheap - but can often be arranged through work...wife's a counsellor and she's had a few clients in that position...
im a massive advocate of mindfulness, one of things ive kept in my toolkit over the years...the problem is ,as you'll know too well, you get to a point sometimes where you've spiralled inwards and any other little thing tightens the spiral even more even if, by itself, it's relatively insignificant...sometimes all you need is to talk these things through...i guess that's why talking therapies help so much...
the other suggestion i could make, which has helped me massively recently is safe space visualisation/relaxation therapy....but then i've got my own counsellor on tap for that.....however, there may be something worth googling or apps out there
she's just pinged out and reminded me - simple strategies like square breathing and colour breathing can help...as you;ve got past experience, you may just need to clear your head and put things into perspective, which these sorts of things can do...i can understand your hesistance aboout the dr/meds step completely...
i think the faceless nature of forum members helps in this sort of situation as it removes that potential 'you think i'm weak' moment...
i've had a lot of help on here - both in this thread and in the cancer one...there's a lot of support in here...
had to chortle at your line about the work pc, though - procrastination is still one of my worst enemies...
square breathing: sqaure breathing (i always do it with visualisation, in a mindfulness way, but it's not essential)
colour breathing: colour breathing
safe space visualisation:
i've done safe place as a guided meditation from the mrs but, again, it's not essential
if any others come to mind, i'll post them - all the best with it
Edited by drhcnip at 20:52:42 15-10-2017
It's strange how it can manifest. I was in tears earlier with the thought of going to a social event. I'm starting to develop a strange fear of socialising which is basically not in my character at all. I've started ignoring folk at work just so I don't think that they will think Ive changed (I know this makes no sense) I'm basically wanting to just remain in my own bubble and the thought of pushing myself outside it is quite fearful which again is baffling and worrying to me.
My wife thinks it's totally understandable due to what we're both going through (2 young girls with Autism) but she has outlets to talk about it and I dont, so I've kind of let it manifest and build up and now it's starting to make me close myself off.
I'll go the docs next week and see what he says. I may need some meds and/or a couple of weeks off work or whatever.
That post struck a nerve.
That's how I am a lot of the time but I know what's causing it (grief bereavement and shock).
I do the bubble thing all the time. I enjoy my bubble time but I'm also very aware that I have things I need to process and go through.
The thing that's baffling you is clear as a bell to me. It's your minds way of having to shut stuff down because you don't want to deal with it.
I mentioned earlier about this capacity thing I have - it doesn't matter whether you can't open a can of fucking beans or whether you can't do something extremely important - if it tips, it tips.
Dissociation for me, not sure about you?
My head's just a mess at present. I'm not sure what I'm thinking anymore. I've just gone into Autopilot but spend most mornings en route to work trying to not tear up. It's taking big effort to try and mask it at work. I basically just feel like telling a whole bunch of people to fuck off.
Maybe I just need a timeout. My work used to be my timeout but that's become stressful. My home situation will never go away. Things will get better I know that. It's just I've let things get on top of me because I think that at my age I should man up and shouldn't have these issues.
I'm rambling now lol.
Sounds like it's one of those times when the waves are riding high. Difficult to stand against them and impossible to do so forever. Easy to say, but riding it out is helpful and it means that the wave will have gone again for a while.
Still, getting it out on a forum may help
If it helps I've just found a really good pair of daggers in dragons dogma I can use.
Yeah I need to get on a game. Just had a few down days so not felt like anything really.
Went to the docs earlier and have been prescribed some propranolol for my anxiety and some antidepressants (Sertraline) and I've been signed off for a month.
Onwards and upwards I hope.
Hope it works out ok man
I'm glad I went and feel both equally better and a bit useless at the moment. I feel defeated in the fact I'm needing medication to help.
Nothing wrong with that.
I was talking to my sister who is a now a certified counseller a while back about antidepressants, as I said similar to what you said. She replied with, "So what, I was on anti-depressants for years"
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Ah, don't be thinking that. It's no sign of weakness.
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@Addy_B I'm also on propranolol for my anxiety/essential tremor and antidepressants (citalopram) for my depression.
I also felt weak at first for having to turn to medication, but my doctor explained it to me like this - if you were a diabetic and you didn't take your insulin, for example, then your doctor would have something to say about it.
She said to me it's the same with anxiety/depression, although I guess the difference is that hopefully you'll be able to recover fully from anxiety/depression whereas diabetes is for life. She was the first one to describe it as a chemical imbalance in the brain rather than something you can overcome with sheer willpower, so please don't feel weak.
If you ever need to talk I am only ever a PM away.
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