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  • smoothpete 9 Aug 2007 14:00:38 31,711 posts
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    If you stand outside and do the running man for 30 seconds then you can come back in :)
  • Deleted user 9 August 2007 14:01:42
    smoothpete wrote:
    I dunno, I just find him massively over-rated, as a hiphop producer anyway. I'm not even sure I'd call it hiphop. There are a ton of much more interesting and talented producers out there. Again, this is all in my opinion
    Yeah, it's arguably 'trip-hop'. A lame title, I know, but apt, since he focusses on using samples to create tracks with movements/atmosphere.

    At least, he used to. His new direction is more archetypal; it seems he wants to create individual tracks which adhere to the typical rules of a specific genre, but albums which aren't coherent at all.

    As far as 'real' hip-hop goes, you can't go wrong with a bit of Deltron or Spank Rock.
  • smoothpete 9 Aug 2007 14:05:58 31,711 posts
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    Not really that familiar with Deltron or Spank Rock, I'll have a look on iTunes and see what comes up.
  • Deleted user 9 August 2007 14:06:29
    Huntcjna wrote:
    The_Aardvark wrote:
    Just spotted this on a blog:

    New track by Timbaland feat. M.I.A.!

    Had a quick listen at work, and I think this is pretty awesome - not quite as good as her album though.

    Timbalands new album is amazing, theres a track on their with Fall Out Boy thats absolutely class.
    I'm surprised no one took Hunt up on this. That track (and a lot of that album, by the way) is fucking horrible.
  • Kay 9 Aug 2007 14:18:30 17,954 posts
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    Yeah, Timbaland's album is a bit so-so. 'Way I Are' is the best track on it, imo, and there's a few other decent ones, but most of it is strictly below average. Or, in the case of the Dre/Missy Elliot track, pretty horrid.

    K
  • smoothpete 9 Aug 2007 14:20:15 31,711 posts
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    He's done some seriously good work, I think now he should perhaps take a break. And stop fucking saying "ah-huh, yeah" on every track he produces
  • absolutezero 9 Aug 2007 14:21:20 7,956 posts
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    When it comes to DJ Shadow style stuff im more of a Ninja Tune/Kid Koala in particular bloke.

    Checking out Cannibal Ox now figgis, thanks for the reccomends.
  • PES_Fanboy 9 Aug 2007 14:23:43 18,467 posts
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    I may well get flamed here, but does anyone know what happened to the The Spooks? They were around a few years ago, I think they were British.
  • PES_Fanboy 9 Aug 2007 14:31:44 18,467 posts
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    Meatloaf disagrees with your theory.
  • figgis 9 Aug 2007 14:42:07 7,381 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Meatloaf disagrees with your theory.

    Imagine how crap he'd be if he was thin.

    ADMISSION

    I quite like some of 'Bat Out of Hell'. Never owned it but by some kind of cultural osmosis i know all the words to 'paradise by the dashboard light'. I think it was in the charts for about ten years.

    Anyway on the DJ Shadow tip anyone liking easy going hip hop should check out the Quanium stuff he did about 8-9years ago, much better than his current album.
  • smoothpete 9 Aug 2007 14:43:21 31,711 posts
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    Get the fuck out

    /points to door

    Don't make me Uncle Phil you outta that bitch like Jazzy Jeff
  • figgis 9 Aug 2007 14:55:30 7,381 posts
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    Mumbles something behind big shades as i'm hoisted out.
  • Deleted user 9 August 2007 15:51:00
    /does MC Hammer shuffle back in as Figgis is chucked out

    RE The Outsider, the production is top-notch. Great stuff and far more detail in the hyphy tunes than some people are want to make out. Plus live with the old stuff it truly shines.

    Aim is another producer I enjoy, although his last album was a bit too fluffly after Hinterland and the sublime Cold Water Music. Herbaliser is someone I'd listen to more of if I didn't have enough stuff to get through already, but I got Very Mercenary which was awesome. As a side-note I didn't particularly enjoy Spank Rock's album at all, more electronica than anything else, but I'll give it another try now...

    Toca is another group I picked up on lately. Strange mix of rock, spanish music and rap. Worth trying if you're looking for something different.
  • MrSensible 10 Aug 2007 01:18:11 25,294 posts
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    I don't know if she's seen as 'cool' or shite but my mate has now also got me into Lady Sovereign. So now I like Dizzie and Lady Sovereign.

    That is all.
  • heyyo 10 Aug 2007 01:27:52 14,371 posts
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    She's a bit of a chav, but has talent apparantely she freestyled infront of Jay-Z and he signed her up based on just that.
  • MrSensible 10 Aug 2007 01:29:16 25,294 posts
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    I dunno, she seems really intelligent and I think the chav look is more of a laugh really. Plus she likes the Sex Pistols so that automatically wins my favour haha.
  • GrandTheftApu 10 Aug 2007 07:22:33 6,119 posts
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    thefilthandthefury wrote:
    I don't know if she's seen as 'cool' or shite but my mate has now also got me into Lady Sovereign. So now I like Dizzie and Lady Sovereign.

    That is all.

    Next you need Roots Manuva.
  • Khanivor 10 Aug 2007 07:26:36 41,120 posts
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    Thread's got this far with no mention of the GLC? For shame!
  • MrSensible 10 Aug 2007 09:21:20 25,294 posts
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    GrandTheftApu wrote:
    thefilthandthefury wrote:
    I don't know if she's seen as 'cool' or shite but my mate has now also got me into Lady Sovereign. So now I like Dizzie and Lady Sovereign.

    That is all.

    Next you need Roots Manuva.

    Thanks, I'll definitely check that guy out. One of my old co-workers used to listen to him all the time so I could no doubt get a CD off him.

    And lol, I love the GLC Khanivor. "The Maggot" and "You Knows I Loves You" are my favourites.
  • figgis 10 Aug 2007 09:26:29 7,381 posts
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    'Run Come Save Me' is the first Roots Manuva album you should get. Listen to it on the biggest sound system possible and then thank me.
  • smoothpete 10 Aug 2007 09:37:20 31,711 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    Thread's got this far with no mention of the GLC? For shame!
    They're funny as fuck but they're not great rappers ;)

    Their website is cool though, they have a whole bunch of unreleased tunes you can download free. You knows it clarts! (love the link you have to click to enter the site)
  • Khanivor 10 Aug 2007 10:22:31 41,120 posts
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    Well their delivery may not be the finest (hello, Welsh :D) but some of their rhymes and the lyrics in general are high quality. Soapbar is pure genius and of course, Guns Don't Kill People, Wappas Do!
  • JayeM 13 Aug 2007 16:13:08 3,386 posts
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    Can't wait for Statlanta...

  • Syrette 13 Aug 2007 16:17:43 44,098 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    Well their delivery may not be the finest (hello, Welsh :D) but some of their rhymes and the lyrics in general are high quality. Soapbar is pure genius and of course, Guns Don't Kill People, Wappas Do!
    /cringes

  • Baronen 13 Aug 2007 16:33:00 579 posts
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    Didn't see it mentioned, but for some quality hiphop listening not completely revolved around guns and bitches, you could do alot worse than checking out Sage Francis. His newest album, Human the Death Dance, is quite alright, but A Healthy Distrust (2005) is probably the most accessible. There are quite a few personal (almost on the verge of being emo) tracks, as well as tunes with a more political subject matter. His beats are usually solid, and because of his background (some journalism degree) his lyrics are pretty clever. He and a fella called Joe Beats produced an album called Hope together, under the name Non-Prophets, which I also highly recommend. Tunes worth checking out:

    The Buzz Kill
    Slow Down Ghandi
    Makeshift Patriot
    Specialist
    Underground for Dummies
    Hell of a Year
    Escape Artist
    Gunz Yo
    That Ain't Right (under Non-Prophets)

    I'd also advise that you all check out this year's best album so far, I'll Sleep When You're Dead, by a rapper named El-P (part founder of the record label Definitive Jux). The production is completely amazing, sounding almost apocalyptic, and has guest artists such as Cage, Trent Reznor, and more. Single songs:

    Tasmanian Pain Coaster
    Up All Night
    Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)
    Flyentology
    The Overly Dramatic Truth
    Deep Space 9mm
    Stepfather Factory

  • smoothpete 13 Aug 2007 16:45:30 31,711 posts
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    I saw Sage Francis live once, very good indeed.

    Can anyone do me a favour? I'm trying to find the lyrics to a tune by Consequence called Caught Up In The Hype, I need to know if it's the same tune I heard on the radio a while ago but no-where I look seems to have the answer. I've just downloaded a podcast with that tune in the listing but can't listen to it just now
  • smoothpete 13 Aug 2007 16:51:09 31,711 posts
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    Free hiphop here
  • StixxUK 13 Aug 2007 18:42:26 7,271 posts
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    smoothpete wrote:
    Free hiphop here
    Good shit!
  • StixxUK 13 Aug 2007 18:44:37 7,271 posts
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    I don't like El-P... Don't know what it is, but his music sounds horribly messy to me and I don't like his voice at all.

    Roots Manuva... Definitely, but I reckon Brand New Second Hand is his best album.
  • MrSensible 16 Aug 2007 01:08:04 25,294 posts
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    Right I have two Roots Manuva albums sat on my desk now, ready to listen to. I'll have to give them a spin tomorrow or on Friday.

    I've also been told that since I like Dizzee I might like Wiley. Are they quite similar then? I was told of their history together so I don't give a shit about that, I'd just like to know musically and lyrically.
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