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  • gravity0 30 Oct 2003 13:08:37 573 posts
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    Posted on UK:R as rumour, just confirmed by Stuart Campbell, who's worked with the team in the past. The rumour states they resigned because Future wanted them to make Edge more 'mainstream', but this has been denied by Campbell. He also claims it's not a money issue.

    Link to Rllmuk thread, for those interested.
  • Icebox 30 Oct 2003 13:26:14 13 posts
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    Damn, I really like Edge.

    So it'll just finish? Or do you think they'll get new staff?
  • sam_spade 30 Oct 2003 13:28:53 15,743 posts
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    You just rope in new staff who agree with the policy. The Edge brand is quite a big one, so it's worth holding onto.
  • Machiavel 30 Oct 2003 13:29:52 5,964 posts
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    Reading that thread and all the bile and angry reactions amongst the facts just makes me cherish EG more.

    /hugs screen. Irradiates.
  • malloc 30 Oct 2003 13:32:39 1,892 posts
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    sam_spade wrote:
    You just rope in new staff who agree with the policy. The Edge brand is quite a big one, so it's worth holding onto.
    Yes, but then it's not really the Edge brand anymore, is it? Or is it?

    Fair enough point though.

    I only bought one copy after they gave Halo a 10.... Good mag even though they had some weird review scores.
  • Machiavel 30 Oct 2003 13:32:39 5,964 posts
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    Campbell claims part of the reason is hidden inside E129 - the pointless "Naked lady touch screen" game is one suggestion.
  • Crispy 30 Oct 2003 13:33:41 58 posts
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    daaam...

    so they'll get in new people that say yes to all these mainstream plans?!!...

    Edge is the only magazine i've ever religiously bought since No.1...this is sad news indeed, even if it has gone downhill over the last 2yrs.
  • malloc 30 Oct 2003 13:33:44 1,892 posts
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    Didn't their forums shut down a while ago? Never opened up again I don't think. Maybe it's been in the works for sometime, or I'm just looking too much into nothing?
  • KnickKnack 30 Oct 2003 13:34:46 29 posts
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    I wouldn't be surpised if this was fuelled by the growing popularity of GamesTM who offer a seemingly light hearted and refreshing look at videogames. They don't take themselves as serious as Edge, which I like, and as such I only buy GamesTM rather than listen to the elitist snobbery that is Edge.
  • whaleyboy 30 Oct 2003 13:36:41 1 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Interesting move by Future. Do you think Games TM is making some inroads into the Edge readership then?
    I ditched Edge as soon as I'd read a single Games TM mag. Even got a subscription to it (my first ever subscription to any mag). Edge reviews were just plain crap IMO, don't know what everyone else things of course...
  • Whizzo 30 Oct 2003 13:37:36 41,117 posts
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    I'm not too surprised Future have tried to do something to turn Edge around, aren't its sales pretty low these days? It's a very nicely made magazine (the paper, binding etc not the contents) so it must be fairly pricey to print.

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  • DocX 30 Oct 2003 13:41:36 1,961 posts
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    Anyone know their recent sales figures? They were always pretty low compared to the mainstream games mags. Anyway, their pretentious "We say what's cool & you just follow like the sheep you are" attitude always put me off.
  • Machiavel 30 Oct 2003 13:46:22 5,964 posts
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    An insider claims around 26,000.
  • Blerk Moderator 30 Oct 2003 14:10:14 47,735 posts
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    Shocking if true, but good for them - not everyone would stand up for what they believe in. They'll probably all get jobs at Games TM. :-)
  • gravity0 30 Oct 2003 14:29:38 573 posts
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    I've been a reader since issue 4 and look forward to every issue, so this is a bit of a shock.

    Unfortunately, we don't get GamesTM here in Gib so I can't comment on their quality, but Edge has always been the only mag worth buying if you're a dedicated gamer round these parts. I love their features and interviews with developers.

    Apparently the mag won't cease to exist, but here's hoping whoever replaces the old team maintains the IMO generally excellent quality of the mag.
  • Blerk Moderator 30 Oct 2003 14:38:02 47,735 posts
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    here's hoping whoever replaces the old team maintains the IMO generally excellent quality of the mag.

    Not much chance of that, by the sounds of it. They'll replace them with mass-market puppets who'll do what the publishers tell them. Expect a OPSM2-style 'readers wives' section next month, probably called 'developers girlfriends' or something.

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  • Machiavel 30 Oct 2003 14:44:38 5,964 posts
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    Any other tasteless shlock moments in E129? There was that review of the 9/11 mod. Though I'd admit the naked lady touchscreen game seemed particularly odd and out of place.
  • gravity0 30 Oct 2003 14:50:30 573 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    They'll replace them with mass-market puppets who'll do what the publishers tell them. Expect a OPSM2-style 'readers wives' section next month, probably called 'developers girlfriends' or something.

    New Edge says:
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    Dear Lord.
  • gravity0 30 Oct 2003 14:53:35 573 posts
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    I found their 4-page interview with someone from Computer Artworks pretty depressing reading. Considering they were closed down a few days after it was published, like.
  • Dirtbox 30 Oct 2003 14:53:51 73,655 posts
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    Thats the end of them then. I can see the 'new' Edge reading like a gamefaqs thread too.

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  • Blerk Moderator 30 Oct 2003 14:54:41 47,735 posts
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    but Games TM is such a ugly name...

    It is that. I've often wondered WHY they called it 'Games TM' and not just 'Games'?
  • feki Staff 30 Oct 2003 14:57:36 1,728 posts
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    please, god, no.

    edge is the only games magazine in paper-form worth reading, for f**ks sake.
  • feki Staff 30 Oct 2003 15:20:20 1,728 posts
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    Bill Door wrote:
    Edge has been at the cutting edge (pardon the pun) of pretentious journalism for ages. Anyone remember the whole debate about ditching actual ratings for games and just having a written review?

    They take themselves so po-faced serious it always makes me want to scream. Computer games are part of the sodding entertainment industry for crying out loud!
    Pretention schmetention. What I like about Edge, being an old poop, is their style of writing. It's witty, cynical and with a touch. Not a single one of the other so-called journalistic games magazines out there come near. Some of the eurogamer-staff comes pretty close at times, granted.

    Yes, Computer games is a part of the entertainment industry, but trying to rape it, like many publishers do by 'buying' cover-space on magazines is a bad thing. Edges refusal to bid into that game is honorable. Refusal to high-grade 'hyped' crap-games is another.

    Just my two cents, however.
  • Tiger_Walts 30 Oct 2003 15:24:08 16,255 posts
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    Machiavel wrote:
    Campbell claims part of the reason is hidden inside E129 - the pointless "Naked lady touch screen" game is one suggestion.
    Yeah, the last few issues each have a double page image accompanied by a sub 300 word article, usually about something no-one gives a toss about. Is this a shameful way of covering up a drop in companies using Edge for full page advertising or something more sinister?

    In the event of a format change it would be sad to see certain elements disappear, the news sections and the regular columnists are perfect and should be untouched.

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  • zk 30 Oct 2003 15:25:32 142 posts
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    Why all the doom and gloom?

    I believe Future aren't foolish enought to compromise Edge's hard earned reputation by changing it's core values. I also. believe the current editorial team are neglecting those values.

    It's popular opinion that Edge has deteriorated. The fact is, it reads like a magazine by an arrogant team that's lost interest. Flush them out and bring in some new talent.

    Also, I don't understand why people are so threatened by the word "mainstream." A magazine of Edge's nature should be mainstream. There are plenty of passionate gamers out there looking for a magazine with Edge's integrity and experience. Only most are alienated by the cynicism and elitism of the current editorial team.



  • Nemesis 30 Oct 2003 15:32:50 18,323 posts
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    Well, rather than take a negative stance over something you haven't seen the results of, why not go WILD and be optimistic.

  • Blerk Moderator 30 Oct 2003 15:34:19 47,735 posts
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    I believe Future aren't foolish enought to compromise Edge's hard earned reputation by changing it's core values

    Bwah-ha-ha!

    Future used to be a great magazine company. Now they're cynical cash-in merchants, happy to sell their souls to whichever company will pay them the most for a 'marked up' review or an 'exclusive cover story'. Edge doesn't fit in with that methodology, it was only a matter of time before they tried to mess with it. And now the editorial team have gone there's nobody there to stop them doing it.

    You mark my words - if it's true, this is the end for Edge. And although I didn't like it much any more, that's a bloody shame.

    Edited by Blerk at 15:34:59 30-10-2003
  • Harry  30 Oct 2003 15:45:39 1,120 posts
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    I have to agree with Bill Door on this one. I’ve often seen an inverse relationship between the score a game gets in Edge and the possibility of a pleb like you and me getting hold of it.

    So games like Hentai Kawai Cackstation 4 Hegenomy Edition on GP32 might get an 8 or 9, something that already appeared on the shelves before Edge got round to taking a look would only get 3.

    Though my major problem with Edge is the small number of reviews they actually get around to writing each month. What are they doing for the rest of the month? It can’t take all of them to take sepia tone photographs of games developers in Wuthering Heights style windswept locations. Or were the rest of them busy finding new ways to put silver text on a black background so it’s impossible to read under artificial light?

    Bring back Ace and Games Machine is what I say. Okay Ace was a bit silly with the scoring “ooh you gave it 878 I saw it more of a 893 myself.” But the rest of the magazine was very good indeed. In fact I think the heyday of games magazines was in that 16-bit era with Ace, Games Machine, One (despite constantly reviewing vapourware) etc.

    Though I don’t know why I give a toss anymore. I don’t buy games magazines these days. But if I’m going to spend 20 minutes in each month reading Edge in WH Smiths I expect better ;o)
  • mal 30 Oct 2003 15:51:31 20,485 posts
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    Machiavel wrote:
    Campbell claims part of the reason is hidden inside E129 - the pointless "Naked lady touch screen" game is one suggestion.
    Damn. I thought that was a sign of Edge getting a sense of humour. Maybe not.

    Anyway, most of the decent articles in Edge have been written by freelancers for some time now, I think. I don't know if they'll boycott Edge too - maybe. We can only hope that some of them switch to GamesTM (do we know if they've quit Future, or just Edge?) and improve the shocking standard of some of the features in there.

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