|Cinema and tastes have moved on since LoTR. I reckon that's the main challenge The Hobbit faces.|
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Reviews haven't seen that bad from what I've seen, mostly just criticised the 48FPS thing and the fact that its too long and meanders. |
I'm hoping that means I'll still like it. Not seeing it in 48FPS and love the extended editions more than the theatrical cuts.
@Lukus, How do you mean Cinema and tastes have moved on? In terms of its Genre, nothings really come out that has made it irrelevant or seem dated.
Blotto wrote:Dating or relevance doesn't really matter much, it's genre trends that matter. The current fads are book adaptations of either young adult novels or gritty Lee Child-esque thrillers. There's no real genre demand for fantasy right now. Whereas Fellowship of the Ring came out right when the big trends were fantasy (or mostly films not centred around the real world due to 9/11).
|I don't remember fantasy being a big thing nack then. Lord of the Rings certainly helped franchise filming take off though. That's why we now have 3 hobbit films instead of one.|
It wasn't fantasy as a whole, but escapism - something that isn't set in the modern day real world. LotR basically just came along at the exact right moment, a few months after 9/11. The Hobbit isn't going to do that this time around because the current focus is on reality, rather than pure escapism. Maybe if it came out in the middle of the Game of Thrones craze it would have done better, but that's all but over now, and TV trends rarely transfer to cinema - it's usually the other way around.|
EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not saying it's a bad film nor suggesting it will bomb, merely that it's got fairly hefty obstacles in front of it to replicate the success of LotR (which is obviously what they're hoping for), and why it seems to be getting more apathy than enthusiasm.
Edited by meme at 22:28:57 09-12-2012
Feanor wrote:Orcrist & Glamdring as First age material worthy of a flashbacky type sequence. Would be hard to have all those dwarfs and not do a sequence on Aule and him bringing them into being before the firstborn.
Not massive bits, but like the Last alliance battles scenes & Isildur stuff from the LOTR trilogy, would add a bit of depth to the pretty narrow tale within the Hobbit.
|Was Smaug in the Silmarillion? Or referenced rather? Dwarf background may be referenced too - digging up trouble.|
|Don't remember him being in it at all.|
|He was the boss in Dragon's Lair, did Tolkien write that?|
STAY BOW-LEGGED & THICK
|Tolkien did the dialogue.|
|So it seems like the Cineworld on Broadstreet's IMAX is only showing the 24fps version - poo|
You dare to strike Scurrcules!?
List of IMAX cinemas showing it in HFR 3D|
ODEON Manchester & IMAX – Manchester, UK
Cineworld Nottingham & IMAX – Nottingham, UK
Cineworld Sheffield & IMAX - Sheffield, UK
ODEON Swiss Cottage & IMAX - London, UK
Cineworld Sheffield just happens to be my local.
Edited by Fat_Pigeon at 14:20:59 11-12-2012
|Just booked my 3d 48 fps tickets. Can't wait, hopefully don't regret the decision. Not the biggest fan on 3d usually. Was massively looking forward to it until I discovered it been split in three and some of the reviews questioned this decision after watching it.|
|Just got back from seeing this. I'm no film critic, but I really enjoyed it.|
Wanting to see 48 fps I can understand, but I've never seen a film apart from maybe Avatar justifying the 3D bit.|
Edited by Kanjin at 22:30:55 12-12-2012
ZizouFC wrote:Yey, do you know the book and how they've added to the film? I'd imagine this part adds the gandalf backstory hookking up with the elfs? Anything on Necro?
darkmorgado wrote:As was Prometheus, both were much better examples of good 3D than Avatar, imo.
AdamAsunder wrote:The noughties were massive for fantasy. Harry Potter, Narnia, His Dark Materials, Stardust, Enchanted, King Kong etc. LotR kinda kicked it off, but it's still definitely a last decade thing.
I read the book in school, but that's a while back so it's not very fresh in my mind.
Not massive spoilers, but some might not want to read my answers.
No real backstory for Gandalf. He and Galadriel have a moment which shows they are old friends, but they don't really elaborate.
Necro does feature, but without giving too much away... they focus on other things in this part of the trilogy.
disusedgenius wrote:Prometheus Blu-Ray 3d is fantastic, made me genuinely pleased I bought the TV I did. Didn't rate the 3d in Avatar too much
The 3d in avatars is great. It's just so long and heavy you get too used to it.|
The first bit where he comes out of stasis is amazing.
He totally called it
I'm off to the iMax to see this after Christmas. I'm expecting something which is not quite as good as Lord of the Rings, but still an enjoyable yarn.|
And deep vein thrombosis.
|Avatar IMAX 3D was like being on safari. Amazing.|
All we are is dust in the wind, dude.
|It was good but it still suffered from the "everything going to shit when things start moving fast" effect.|
|On my way to see it now. Don't feel that hyped up about it at all. Only going to one showing ffs!|
The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.