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  • Lukus 9 Dec 2012 21:40:33 19,466 posts
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    Cinema and tastes have moved on since LoTR. I reckon that's the main challenge The Hobbit faces.

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  • Blotto 9 Dec 2012 21:50:16 2,777 posts
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    Reviews haven't seen that bad from what I've seen, mostly just criticised the 48FPS thing and the fact that its too long and meanders.

    I'm hoping that means I'll still like it. Not seeing it in 48FPS and love the extended editions more than the theatrical cuts.

    @Lukus, How do you mean Cinema and tastes have moved on? In terms of its Genre, nothings really come out that has made it irrelevant or seem dated.
  • Deleted user 9 December 2012 21:59:44
    Blotto wrote:
    How do you mean Cinema and tastes have moved on? In terms of its Genre, nothings really come out that has made it irrelevant or seem dated.
    Dating or relevance doesn't really matter much, it's genre trends that matter. The current fads are book adaptations of either young adult novels or gritty Lee Child-esque thrillers. There's no real genre demand for fantasy right now. Whereas Fellowship of the Ring came out right when the big trends were fantasy (or mostly films not centred around the real world due to 9/11).
  • Deleted user 9 December 2012 22:16:10
    I don't remember fantasy being a big thing nack then. Lord of the Rings certainly helped franchise filming take off though. That's why we now have 3 hobbit films instead of one.
  • Deleted user 9 December 2012 22:20:00
    It wasn't fantasy as a whole, but escapism - something that isn't set in the modern day real world. LotR basically just came along at the exact right moment, a few months after 9/11. The Hobbit isn't going to do that this time around because the current focus is on reality, rather than pure escapism. Maybe if it came out in the middle of the Game of Thrones craze it would have done better, but that's all but over now, and TV trends rarely transfer to cinema - it's usually the other way around.

    EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not saying it's a bad film nor suggesting it will bomb, merely that it's got fairly hefty obstacles in front of it to replicate the success of LotR (which is obviously what they're hoping for), and why it seems to be getting more apathy than enthusiasm.

    Edited by meme at 22:28:57 09-12-2012
  • OnlyMe 9 Dec 2012 22:31:50 3,104 posts
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  • Nasty 9 Dec 2012 23:30:45 4,748 posts
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    Feanor wrote:
    meme wrote:
    Yeah, but the LotR books were immense. Fellowship of the Ring alone is nearly twice the length of The Hobbit. Having to drop stuff from the book because it's too long is one thing. Having to write new shit and pull in stuff from the Silmarillion to turn it into three films is something else.
    What things from the Silmarillion are in the Hobbit movies?
    Orcrist & Glamdring as First age material worthy of a flashbacky type sequence. Would be hard to have all those dwarfs and not do a sequence on Aule and him bringing them into being before the firstborn.

    Not massive bits, but like the Last alliance battles scenes & Isildur stuff from the LOTR trilogy, would add a bit of depth to the pretty narrow tale within the Hobbit.
  • Bremenacht 10 Dec 2012 01:20:23 19,663 posts
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    Was Smaug in the Silmarillion? Or referenced rather? Dwarf background may be referenced too - digging up trouble.
  • Oh-Bollox 10 Dec 2012 01:49:55 5,424 posts
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    Don't remember him being in it at all.
  • neilka 10 Dec 2012 01:52:55 16,527 posts
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    He was the boss in Dragon's Lair, did Tolkien write that?

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  • Oh-Bollox 10 Dec 2012 03:04:38 5,424 posts
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    Tolkien did the dialogue.
  • Scurrminator 11 Dec 2012 10:07:47 8,465 posts
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    So it seems like the Cineworld on Broadstreet's IMAX is only showing the 24fps version - poo

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  • Fat_Pigeon 11 Dec 2012 14:19:34 9,850 posts
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    List of IMAX cinemas showing it in HFR 3D

    ODEON Manchester & IMAX Manchester, UK
    Cineworld Nottingham & IMAX Nottingham, UK
    Cineworld Sheffield & IMAX - Sheffield, UK
    ODEON Swiss Cottage & IMAX - London, UK

    Cineworld Sheffield just happens to be my local. :)

    Edited by Fat_Pigeon at 14:20:59 11-12-2012
  • Deleted user 12 December 2012 22:05:38
    Just booked my 3d 48 fps tickets. Can't wait, hopefully don't regret the decision. Not the biggest fan on 3d usually. Was massively looking forward to it until I discovered it been split in three and some of the reviews questioned this decision after watching it.
  • SClaw 12 Dec 2012 22:07:29 826 posts
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    @Scurrminator No it's not. They annouced a crapton of 48fps dates and times for there last week.

    As seem here. http://www.cineworldnet.com/hobbit-info.pdf

    Edited by SClaw at 22:08:33 12-12-2012
  • Ziz0u 12 Dec 2012 22:13:04 8,648 posts
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    Just got back from seeing this. I'm no film critic, but I really enjoyed it.
  • HelloNo 12 Dec 2012 22:30:43 1,272 posts
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    Wanting to see 48 fps I can understand, but I've never seen a film apart from maybe Avatar justifying the 3D bit.

    Edited by Kanjin at 22:30:55 12-12-2012
  • spamdangled 12 Dec 2012 22:39:02 27,441 posts
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    Dredd was excellent in 3d.

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  • Deleted user 13 December 2012 00:15:00
    ZizouFC wrote:
    Just got back from seeing this. I'm no film critic, but I really enjoyed it.
    Yey, do you know the book and how they've added to the film? I'd imagine this part adds the gandalf backstory hookking up with the elfs? Anything on Necro?
  • disusedgenius 13 Dec 2012 00:22:31 5,614 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    Dredd was excellent in 3d.
    As was Prometheus, both were much better examples of good 3D than Avatar, imo.
  • Scurrminator 13 Dec 2012 08:49:19 8,465 posts
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    @SClaw Yeah but that's not the IMAX screen, the 48fps version is being shown on the normal screens at broad street.

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  • Deleted user 13 December 2012 08:57:50
    AdamAsunder wrote:
    I don't remember fantasy being a big thing nack then.
    The noughties were massive for fantasy. Harry Potter, Narnia, His Dark Materials, Stardust, Enchanted, King Kong etc. LotR kinda kicked it off, but it's still definitely a last decade thing.
  • Ziz0u 13 Dec 2012 08:58:36 8,648 posts
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    @CrispyXUK

    I read the book in school, but that's a while back so it's not very fresh in my mind.

    Not massive spoilers, but some might not want to read my answers.

    No real backstory for Gandalf. He and Galadriel have a moment which shows they are old friends, but they don't really elaborate.

    Necro does feature, but without giving too much away... they focus on other things in this part of the trilogy.
  • Deleted user 13 December 2012 09:41:33
    disusedgenius wrote:
    darkmorgado wrote:
    Dredd was excellent in 3d.
    As was Prometheus, both were much better examples of good 3D than Avatar, imo.
    Prometheus Blu-Ray 3d is fantastic, made me genuinely pleased I bought the TV I did. Didn't rate the 3d in Avatar too much
  • nickthegun 13 Dec 2012 09:48:40 61,304 posts
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    The 3d in avatars is great. It's just so long and heavy you get too used to it.

    The first bit where he comes out of stasis is amazing.

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  • Commander-Keen 13 Dec 2012 10:21:07 847 posts
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    I'm off to the iMax to see this after Christmas. I'm expecting something which is not quite as good as Lord of the Rings, but still an enjoyable yarn.

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  • localnotail 13 Dec 2012 10:32:08 23,093 posts
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    Avatar IMAX 3D was like being on safari. Amazing.

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  • beastmaster 13 Dec 2012 17:53:17 11,985 posts
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    On my way to see it now. Don't feel that hyped up about it at all. Only going to one showing ffs!

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