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Oh shit! what a finish!
I hope Rick Story gets his ass kicked.
bah, that didn't last long.
SuperCoolEskimo 10,371 posts
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Mein, wow. Very impressive.
great fights so far. Jordan Meins submission defense is amazing. The fight could have been over within the first minutes.
oh cool! The weirdest guy here is British!
oh cool! The whitest guy here is British!
Wasn't going to stay up, and was going to be sensible.... Weak.
The Nick Ring fight put me to sleep, watched the rest of the event just now. George did what he does, can't see him having to much problems with Hendricks, in fact there's a chance for a TKO as he charges in. Glad I went to bed.
Whenever GSP fights I feel like I'll have a heart attack from the anxiety. Diaz says he's done with MMA... again.
Oh wait, he wants a rematch:
The main event did nothing to change my opinion that GSP will never be in the same bracket as Anderson Silva.
He came up against a fairly flat Diaz and didn't even try and finish him. In fact it seems as though since getting the belt, he's focused more on stifling the game of his opponent than asserting his own. Takedown, side control, throw a few elbows, rinse and repeat.
I used to be a big fan but now I wouldn't pay for an event he's headlining.
Yeah, I agree its difficult to put GSP in the same bracket as Anderson Silva, Georges is a super talented, world class fighter but there is a fragility about him and fuck me he is boring. As Blakester says he just stagnates his opponents now, it can be pretty and systematic but its just fucking tedious. GSP was an animal prior to the Serra defeat, that put the jeepers up him, years of grinding and jabbing ever since...erghh.
I wanted to see two more rounds of Condit/Hendricks!
Can't speak for others, but I enjoyed the main event.
I enjoy technical fighters, and I think GSP is one of the best at it. He dominated in the ground and standing, against the apparently "super boxer" that is Diaz.
Granted people say he didn't wanna finish, but in that entire fight, was there a moment where GSP looked like he had an opportunity to finish him, but didn't? Only argument is that he was also beating him standing, and one could argue if he kept it standing, there was a chance to really frustrate Diaz and get him to commit and finish it. Massive gamble though.
As for Hendricks? He's got nothing for GSP. That button-mash haymaker spamming antics will lead to kos-like jabs, before when he tries to commit to an aggressive knockout, gets taken down. We've seen it all before.
GSP can't take Silva though.
I want to see GSP lose at this stage now because he's the most boring fighter on the entire roster.
I appreciate that it's all lovely and technical but it's just ponderous shite watching him lay on some guy doing zero damage.
Frogofdoom 1,417 posts
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Gsp stifles his way to another win.
I can see big rig being a problem for him though, he comes in with better wrestling and devastating ko power. GSP doesnt appear to have the best chin in the world (condit rocked him badly, serra knocked him out). Hendricks probably has the hardest single punch in mma pound for pound. Im looking forward to seeing how gsp deals with being dumped on his ass and eating some real power.
Bores the shit out of me now he does, used to be a fighter i adored.
the co main event was a real doozy though, shame he broke his hand
I can see Hendricks getting the better of GSP early, but conditioning will be a problem for him over five rounds. It's gonna be tasty.
The win was classic GSP: nerve-wracking because of his worrisome lack of ability to take punishment, but simultaneously dominant. I was itching for Yves Lavigne (father of Avril?) to dock a point from Diaz when he threw a punch after the bell, just to add to his butt-hurt.
I agree with The-Bodybuilder in that there wasn't really an opportunity for GSP to go for the finish, though he did land a few really heavy elbows. That said, you sometimes have to make your own opportunities.
It's tempting to go on a rant about how contradictory and annoying Diaz is (wants to be respected as a martial artist but is flagrantly disrespectful to his opponents, which is the furthest thing from being a true martial artist there is), but hopefully we won't have to contemplate his lunacy for a while.
As much as it pains me to say it, I don't see much chance for Hendricks.
The fight will most likely play out in the same way as the Josh Koscheck one where GSP stays on the outside with his jab and then shoots for the takedown. Having said that, Hendricks only needs to land that left once in 25 minutes to change the outlook of the fight, so anything is possible I guess.
At this stage though I have 0% hope that GSP will take on Anderson. I think he's too concerned with bowing out on top than tarnishing his record. Ironically, I think he'll tarnish his legacy more by ducking the fight.
Reacher 1,205 posts
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Condit v Hendricks was a great fight, but the result was really symptomatic of the way judges award fights these days. Henrdicks does a ton of takedowns but does not advance a single one, yet Condit wins the striking, attacks off his back, gets back up after every TD and loses the fight...
It was great seeing Nick Diaz get buttfucked by GSP though.
I'd rather see Silva fight JBJ than GSP.
Silva/JBJ would definitely be a more competitive affair.
I favour GSP but it will be interesting to see how his wrestling fares post ACL surgery against a national champion wrestler. One thing for sure though, if GSP does succeed with the takedown, Hendricks will have very little off his back.
GSP will succeed IMO. He waits for people to commit to a strike, before going for the takedown (counter-wrestling?) Hendricks has no technical standing ability beyond his left power, so GSP will jab him, get Hendricks to aggressively come forward for that knockout, and when he does he's gonna be taken down for another easy points decision.
As others said, we've seen this before.
In regards to wrestling to decisions? Judges should really stop giving points just for a takedown, unless it was a high impact one (like a suplex, or something similar). Unless they do something with it, it should mean nothing.
The one thing about Conduit is that I hated the fact he was happy to give up his superior range and reach just so he could keep going for a flying knee bar finish. Its what allowed Hendricks to take him down.
Edited by Pepsipop at 14:09:36 21-03-2013
I know this is a UFC thread, but keep an eye out for tonights Bellator card. Should be good.
@The-Bodybuilder where do you normally catch Bellator?
Usually from streams found in MMA Underground, or (long shot) the next day if the fights are put up on mma-core.
British fighter Michael Page won his Bellator debut. Exciting fighter, there was a growing demand for him to fight one of my coaches, Galore Bofando (they fight the same way, and they once had an exhibition fight when Galore was world champion).
MVP is a bit of a knob, but is a very exciting and technical fighter, Silva-esque (and tbh, better in many ways). Wrestling and groundwork however will be his downfall.
Lavar Johnson released after being popped.
BTW, Joe Rogan recently had Bas Rutten on his podcast. Worth a listen!