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  • darkmorgado 28 Oct 2011 12:50:22 22,557 posts
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    Well the MJ thing is because Joe Queseda hated that marriage with a passion as he felt it made Peter seem too old. Same reason why the baby thing has never been resolved.

    And Strazynski had his fair share of duffers. The Other? Sins Past? Those were two of the worst spider stories since Clone Saga.

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  • darkmorgado 28 Oct 2011 19:13:49 22,557 posts
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    You know what really, really pisses me off about Marvel?

    They constantly fuck with their numbering system for issues.

    Case in point: In 1999, they rebooted Amazing Spider-Man in a new volume (volume 2), therefore restarting at #1. However, from issue 30 of this new volume, it started listing both its Volume 2 number but also it's volume 1 number (what issue the comic would be, assuming the reboot hadn't happened). This carried on until December 2003, when the comic officially reverted back to volume 1 with #500.

    It causes havoc when trying to index things, as it means I need a column for volume, a column for issue number, and then a third column for what the issue number would have been had the comic not been rebooted.

    And then you get occasions where the title of the comic changes, but the numbering remains as it always was. So Daredevil became Black Panther: Man Without Fear, featuring a completely different cast, but kept the old number. To make things even more confusing, they then released a new comic called Daredevil... but kept it at volume 1.

    And some comics, like Captain America or Iron Man, have been put through this chaos at least 5 times.

    ARRRRRGH

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  • GuiltySpark 28 Oct 2011 19:47:45 5,913 posts
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    Sounds to me like the problem is that you're a massive nerd.

    Get bent.

  • darkmorgado 28 Oct 2011 20:14:34 22,557 posts
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    :D

    Nah, I'm just in the process of cataloguing my collection so I know what I've got.

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  • Aargh. 28 Oct 2011 20:42:59 11,166 posts
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    The thing that pisses me off about marvel is that they're generally 99.99% shite.

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  • darkmorgado 28 Oct 2011 21:45:06 22,557 posts
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    You're confusing Marvel with DC.

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  • khaz 29 Oct 2011 10:34:46 2,132 posts
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    Oh sure, Strazynski did have many duffers. But Marvel's insistence on constantly clusterfucking things up with their retconning obsessiveness is annoying. At least DC has the decency to go all the way and reboot their universe instead of mini retconning!

    DC has been really good in the last decade or so, been reading some of their TPBs and they're excellent. Especially JLA, JLA: Elite, Superman and Batman. Flash and GL have been superb too.
  • GrandpaUlrira 12 Nov 2011 12:40:19 3,730 posts
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    I just downloaded the Marvel Comics app on Android. It's a real shame that they don't sell bulk back issues at a discount.
  • LockeTribal 12 Nov 2011 13:50:20 4,280 posts
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    Something along the lines of the Essential collections they currently do would be fantastic yeah.

    Just announced yesterday that they (Marvel) will be including digital copies with their "Season One" collections in the new year.
  • nickthegun 18 Nov 2011 13:57:15 44,469 posts
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    Just in case anyone was still in any doubt, Frank Miller is a fucking lunatic: http://frankmillerink.com/2011/11/anarchy

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  • Phattso Moderator 18 Nov 2011 14:21:03 11,875 posts
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    I like how, in the response to the post by Nutter Miller, it descends rapidly into everyone rounding on some woman on the breadline. And not about how Miller has formed an argument that a six year old could poke holes in.

    That and his comics are shit.
  • darkmorgado 18 Nov 2011 14:26:33 22,557 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Just in case anyone was still in any doubt, Frank Miller is a fucking lunatic: http://frankmillerink.com/2011/11/anarchy
    I was reading about that (and the subsequent fallout) yesterday. It's just fucking mental, particularly how he uses OWS and then segues into a diatribe about the war on terror and how people should be "fighting the real enemy". And then the sheer hypocrisy of someone who has sat safely behind a desk for over ten years saying that people should sign up and join the armed forces if they want to do something worthwhile...

    It's a shame really, because I had a lot of respect for him but it's quite obvious now that at some point he simply crossed some sort of threshold and is now nothing more than an angry racist shouting for kids to get off his lawn.

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  • Spanky 18 Nov 2011 17:06:54 14,408 posts
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    Plubs

  • nickthegun 18 Nov 2011 17:16:33 44,469 posts
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    That is brilliant!

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  • darkmorgado 21 Nov 2011 02:58:26 22,557 posts
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    http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/02/13/comic-book-legends-revealed-300-part-3/

    I've been slowly working my way through the Comic Book Legends posts, and came across this interesting little piece. Alan Moore is indirectly responsible for linewide crossover events.

    This column is actually pretty interesting as it sheds light on a lot of stuff that I never knew about. I think they are up to 350 installments now, and most of it is pretty interesting stuff. But I thought this entry was particularly interesting (also mentioned in the link is the origin of splash pages, which is equally interesting) given how prevalent linewide events are in cape comics these days.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 03:04:18 21-11-2011

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  • darkmorgado 21 Nov 2011 02:59:14 22,557 posts
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    Oh, and for anyone who is interested, there's a great blog called Graphicontent which does a lot of good essays, reviews etc.

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  • khaz 21 Nov 2011 10:39:43 2,132 posts
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    Jesus darkmorgado, nice find. This will keep me busy for a month!
  • darkmorgado 25 Nov 2011 21:42:34 22,557 posts
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    khaz wrote:
    Jesus darkmorgado, nice find. This will keep me busy for a month!
    It's pretty awesome :D It's written by one of the guys who also does a lot of work for comicbookresources.com

    CBR is actually a forum I've started using for more comic-y discussions. It's great for this sort of discussion. The fact it's US-based means that the time difference can mean there's a lack of activity during GMT daytime, but still.

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  • darkmorgado 25 Nov 2011 22:43:15 22,557 posts
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/nov/24/frank-miller-hollywood-fascism

    Potentially interesting.

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  • Aargh. 25 Nov 2011 23:02:54 11,166 posts
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    If by interesting you mean some of the most pretentious, badly researched and completely misinformed shite on the Guardian today (and I've been reading Peter Bradshaw reviews).

    Anyone thinking that Hollywood, one of the most liberal leaning areas in the world, is right wing is laughable as is this:
    Or what about the expensive and aesthetically pretentious Gladiator (2000), which I still contend is an allegory about George W Bush's candidacy for president
    .

    How exactly? (and what does aesthetically pretentious even mean?)

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  • darkmorgado 26 Nov 2011 00:21:04 22,557 posts
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    Interesting as in some people might find it amusing and a point of debate because of how factually inaccurate it is?

    With regards to the Gladiator example, the film actually came out before the election. So I fail to see how it could be a commentary on the election of Bush Jr when he hadn't even been elected at the time.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 00:22:19 26-11-2011

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  • Aargh. 26 Nov 2011 00:23:18 11,166 posts
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    Might be if you offer a very detailed view of your own to get us off to a good start.

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  • darkmorgado 26 Nov 2011 00:27:36 22,557 posts
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    I just thought that, as it is an incredibly rare example of comics/ comic-related debate gaining mainstream press coverage - and in this instance an entire opinion piece - some people might be interested in it.

    My position is that Miller is an utter fucking racist lunatic who doesn't know what he is talking about and has fallen far from the "edgy" creator he was once regarded as, but that the article includes numerous errors and ascribes his alocholic rant more relevance than it should be given in the first place.

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  • Aargh. 26 Nov 2011 00:33:42 11,166 posts
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    I'd be surprised if many people disagreed regarding Frank Miller.

    The rest of the article is a bit weird.

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  • darkmorgado 26 Nov 2011 00:38:20 22,557 posts
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  • SuperBas 4 Mar 2012 23:21:29 1,371 posts
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    Bump

    Trying this thread before having to start a new one:

    I'm looking for Batman comics to read. Only short stories that have an ending, I do not want to read the main series. Frank Miller's Batman was amazing. It does not have to be canon. Any good suggestions? I remember a series of short stories introducing most main villains, I can't remember the name of it.
  • GuiltySpark 4 Mar 2012 23:27:26 5,913 posts
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    The Long Halloween? Recently bought the absolute edition, it's that good.

    That's not the story you're thinking of, but it is amazing.

    Edited by GuiltySpark at 23:28:25 04-03-2012

    Get bent.

  • GrandpaUlrira 4 Mar 2012 23:28:43 3,730 posts
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    I liked both Hush and The Long Halloween. The Long Halloween is great if you liked the recent films.

    Edited by GrandpaUlrira at 23:29:15 04-03-2012

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