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  • Alastair 12 Mar 2014 10:46:18 19,037 posts
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    I think my bro has my copy of Prime. No doubt his kids have scratched the disc to fuck, as they seem to have no concept of taking care of anything...

    /grumble grumble
  • Kay 12 Mar 2014 10:47:15 18,424 posts
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    Echoes was harder iirc, thanks mainly to the light/dark world mechanic making the map much more confusing and difficult to traverse. I think the bosses were harder too.

    This thread is making me want to finally get round to playing Corruption, and possibly replay the Trilogy version of Prime 1 as well. Wonder how the game holds up after all these years.

    Needless to say, an HD Metroid is long overdue.
  • Armoured_Bear 12 Mar 2014 10:48:25 17,302 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    Echoes was harder iirc, thanks mainly to the light/dark world mechanic making the map much more confusing and difficult to traverse. I think the bosses were harder too.

    This thread is making me want to finally get round to playing Corruption, and possibly replay the Trilogy version of Prime 1 as well. Wonder how the game holds up after all these years.

    Needless to say, an HD Metroid is long overdue.
    After the annoying first hour or so Corruption is great and the controls are awesome.
    It's not quite as good as the first two but has some stunning areas.
  • Alastair 12 Mar 2014 10:49:50 19,037 posts
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    Corruption is/was on the Wii, right?
  • Kay 12 Mar 2014 10:59:26 18,424 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    After the annoying first hour or so Corruption is great and the controls are awesome.
    It's not quite as good as the first two but has some stunning areas.
    That annoying first hour was enough to put me off the game completely, unfortunately. This was back when the game first came out, and I haven't touched it since.

    Six years on, with no new Retro Metroid since (and no sign of one coming anytime soon), it's now looking more appealing than ever.
  • Deleted user 12 March 2014 11:08:37
    Give it a go. It's really not a bad game at all. Better than Echoes, in my opinion.
  • SuperCoolEskimo 12 Mar 2014 11:28:42 11,027 posts
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    Gave up on Corruption because of the Wiimote controls but also because of the talking NPCs everywhere.

    What made Prime such a special game was how brilliantly Retro created a true feeling of loneliness on a desolate planet, and gradually piecing together an idea of the previous inhabitants and their story, and the imbalance being created by the new habitants.
  • Tonka 12 Mar 2014 11:31:58 24,288 posts
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    I remember thinking that Prime was the perfect game and that ALL videogames should be like it.

    Then Echoes left me felling more than a bit Meh for some reason I couldn't put my finger on. I remember someone on here explained it though. Something about the weapon upgrades being all wrong.

    Maybe I should hook up my old GameCube...
  • AcidSnake 12 Mar 2014 11:33:39 7,643 posts
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    @SuperCoolEskimo:
    I though the Wiimote controls worked beautifully...

    And the chatty NPCs all but disappear after an hour or so...
  • Kay 12 Mar 2014 11:44:07 18,424 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    Then Echoes left me felling more than a bit Meh for some reason I couldn't put my finger on. I remember someone on here explained it though. Something about the weapon upgrades being all wrong.
    That person was most likely ProfessorLesser, complaining about the limited ammo for the light/dark weapons and the screw attack being pointless (iirc), amongst other things...

    I still loved Echoes, though not as good as the original. I can see why it put a lot of people off though, not sure if I'd have the patience for it nowadays.
  • Tonka 12 Mar 2014 11:49:40 24,288 posts
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    Yes, the good old Prof.
  • telboy007 12 Mar 2014 13:31:46 1,602 posts
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    @AcidSnake YES! :) Because you get to kill them, muwhahahaha!!!.
  • Armoured_Bear 12 Mar 2014 13:35:39 17,302 posts
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    SuperCoolEskimo wrote:
    Gave up on Corruption because of the Wiimote controls but also because of the talking NPCs everywhere.

    What made Prime such a special game was how brilliantly Retro created a true feeling of loneliness on a desolate planet, and gradually piecing together an idea of the previous inhabitants and their story, and the imbalance being created by the new habitants.
    What didn't you like about the controls?
    After the first hour or so there's no NPCs, just good old only Samus.
  • Rufus 12 Mar 2014 17:42:45 1,786 posts
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    Mapping missiles to the wiimote d-pad was a pain if you didn't have large hands, and navigating between visors using the "-" button combined with the pointer could be equally frustrating at times. Didn't spoil my enjoyment but I could perfectly understand if it did hinder others.

    Excuse the pun but I'll echo others in that I thought Corruption was better than Echoes. The Dark/Light mechanic ruined my enjoyment of exploring!
  • Deleted user 18 March 2014 21:19:18
    Corruption easily has the best shooter controls of modern games. Ok took some getting used to, but using the wiimote to move leavers and the lock on worked perfectly really immersed me into the world.

    One of the few games that actually benefited from motion controls i felt. To me its telling that i actually completed it. As for my thoughts on Echoes yup i agree, it was a confusing mess at times. Half the time you really didn't know where you were coming or going which is kinda important in a game focused on exploration.

    Edited by Sharzam at 21:20:54 18-03-2014
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 19:43:10 49 posts
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    Seems this thread died a while ago, but I'm wondering if anyone else struggles to 'get' Metroid Prime? I really wanted to love this, and bought it on the strength of its reputation and generally high review ratings. I'd just completed Resident Evil 4 for the second time when I got this, and just felt totally underwhelmed.
    I know it's a different type of game, but I seemed to wander around rather aimlessly for a long, long time, then chanced upon a boss creature that required me to hammer the fire button for a very long time - it was getting physically painful towards the end of the fight.
    I couldn't deal with a whole game of that, so I gave up, and haven't been able to get into it on subsequent revisits. I feel I'm really missing out, but can't make myself enjoy something that isn't working for me.
  • richarddavies 14 Nov 2015 19:55:35 5,277 posts
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    Is prime the gamecube one? If so then i agree. I've owned it a few times and attempted to go through it at least 3 times but couldn't be arsed to ever finish it. Just never understood the spunking over it. By no means a bad game but could never "get" it.
  • dfunked 14 Nov 2015 19:56:24 4,410 posts
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    No. You're both dead inside.
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 20:00:39 49 posts
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    @dfunked Ouch! I really, really want to enjoy it, it is a definitive gamecube title. Not sure where I'm going wrong. Also really wanted to love Time Splitters 2, but it gave me motion sickness (high frame rates seem to do that to me).
    I'm a bug fan of the gamecube, so it's unfortunate that my lcd tv failed (only 3 years old and well treated - modern electronics with lead-free solder are so fragile) - the replacement has no Scart, and I can't bring myslef to downgrade to composite.
    I'd love to buy a set of component leads (I have a launch model 'cube, with the digital a/v connector), but the things are selling for absolutely insane money. I ought to track down a good condition original Wii I guess.
  • richarddavies 14 Nov 2015 20:01:05 5,277 posts
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    Your mum doesn't think so.

    Seriously though just never had the motivation to go through it all. I still own it though so i might give it another attempt one day.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Nov 2015 20:16:04 17,302 posts
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    neuromancer wrote:
    Seems this thread died a while ago, but I'm wondering if anyone else struggles to 'get' Metroid Prime? I really wanted to love this, and bought it on the strength of its reputation and generally high review ratings. I'd just completed Resident Evil 4 for the second time when I got this, and just felt totally underwhelmed.
    I know it's a different type of game, but I seemed to wander around rather aimlessly for a long, long time, then chanced upon a boss creature that required me to hammer the fire button for a very long time - it was getting physically painful towards the end of the fight.
    I couldn't deal with a whole game of that, so I gave up, and haven't been able to get into it on subsequent revisits. I feel I'm really missing out, but can't make myself enjoy something that isn't working for me.
    You're missing out, it's the best game ever.
    Go back and try again, give it a good few hours.
    Come back and thank me.
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 20:23:46 49 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear any pointers on where I went wrong re: boss fight? Felt like I'd need a dreadful 3rd party controller with autofire...
  • dfunked 14 Nov 2015 20:32:48 4,410 posts
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    Which boss are you talking about? The wasp hive is the first one according to my rusty memory, but that's a piece of piss if you do a bit more than hammer the fire button...

    Time your shots when it's in an obviously weak state/aim for the weak point.
    Some of the later boss battles are a pain in the swiss, but earlier ones really aren't all that bad. I guess I came to it knowing how the series works from Super Metroid etc, so I was geared up for a bit of exploration.
  • mal 14 Nov 2015 20:54:48 25,938 posts
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    Watch a video if you're really stuck. Which boss was it? Did you even get off the tutorial space station? Cos that boss was a bit of a simple run around and keep shooting it as I recall. Quite quick to dispatch if you know what you're doing though.

    Scan everything though - that's how the first game got be hooked. Fragments of a bigger story always do that for me. Unfortunately, by the time I saw the titular beasts, that story turned out to be a little unfulfilling, but it was the trigger that got me started.
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 21:01:06 49 posts
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    @mal cheers, sound advice. It was the first full level I think, lots of rain...
    I need to get a Wii (original) or a scart to HDMI or composite adaptor now, as the new TV doesn't have scart at all (and composite is dreadful).
    Really regret that I had to ditch the 4:3 Sony CRT I bought for gasming (it was only Ł5 from eBay, but too large and eventually it had to go)
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 21:03:17 49 posts
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    @dfunked that was probably the one, sounds familiar (this was a few years ago now)
    I welcomed the exploration aspect, it didn't put me off - just what seemed a tedious boss mechanic. Seems it was a lack of technique
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Nov 2015 21:20:46 17,302 posts
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    neuromancer wrote:
    @mal cheers, sound advice. It was the first full level I think, lots of rain...
    I need to get a Wii (original) or a scart to HDMI or composite adaptor now, as the new TV doesn't have scart at all (and composite is dreadful).
    Really regret that I had to ditch the 4:3 Sony CRT I bought for gasming (it was only Ł5 from eBay, but too large and eventually it had to go)
    Sounds like a good excuse to pick up a Wii U Xmas bundle :)
  • mal 14 Nov 2015 21:23:19 25,938 posts
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    You'd need to hack it and install something like Nintendont to play Prime 1 on a Wii U wouldn't you though?

    Edit: No fucking way I'm paying that for the Wii anthology thingy.

    Edited by mal at 21:24:00 14-11-2015
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Nov 2015 21:32:43 17,302 posts
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    mal wrote:
    You'd need to hack it and install something like Nintendont to play Prime 1 on a Wii U wouldn't you though?

    Edit: No fucking way I'm paying that for the Wii anthology thingy.
    You'd have to buy it digitally (the trilogy) , 18 quid I think.
  • neuromancer 14 Nov 2015 21:33:29 49 posts
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    @mal I was thinking of the original mark 1 release of the original Wii - that loads GameCube minidiscs. I think they pulled support for this in the later, cheaper, Wii model
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