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  • BinaryBob101 8 Apr 2013 16:08:17 21,969 posts
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    Problem with the puzzles is, they aren't anywhere near as interesting as many of the HATs on the net.

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  • themanfromdelmonte 8 Apr 2013 18:57:30 540 posts
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    Darren wrote:
    RobAnybody wrote:
    Yes indeed, more shit from Who under Moffat.

    WHY do I keep watching this crap? Simply because, just occasionally, there's a really good episode. Unfortunately these days it's akin to looking for a diamond in a cesspit.
    I keep watching it in the hope that I'll see a more serious Matt Smith portrayed Doctor Who and some genuine drama, emotions and suspense like Blink or The Girl in the Fireplace. Watch old Classic Who's like Robots of Death or Genesis of the Daleks and you see just how low this series has sunk IMO. Production values and special effects are now vastly superior but everything else is just... bleurgh! Such a criminal waste really. Doctor Who used to be a family show which adults watched with their kids (who hid behind the sofa) but now it's a goofy comedy with silly aliens aimed solely at kids and has little to offer adults (unless you like pretty girls).
    The era from the classic series you've highlighted is really at the very extreme of DW being slanted towards an adolescent/adult audience and away from being a children's show. Philip Hinchcliffe has said he wouldn't have put a 6 year old in front of his output. With a primary target audience of 8, for the new series, it would be failing to be apeing the Hinchcliffe/Holmes era.
  • RobTheBuilder 8 Apr 2013 18:59:27 6,521 posts
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    @themanfromdelmonte exactly. They usually strike a good balance between keeping it friendly enough for kids but smart and complex in terms of mysteries to keep it interesting for adults.

    If they could improve the pacing of weaker Episodes it would help a lot
  • DanB24 9 Apr 2013 13:47:49 1,398 posts
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    I've been thinking about it and I think last Saturdays episode was probably the weakest of the Smith /Moffat eta so far imo.
    I cringed in the previous era every time the opening titles said "by Russell T Davies" because I knew it'd be awful and cheered whenever they said Moffat instead. But with him out of the way and Moffat in charge I've enjoyed every episode so far this era. :-)
  • Roddles 9 Apr 2013 13:51:21 1,436 posts
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  • RobTheBuilder 9 Apr 2013 14:21:11 6,521 posts
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    @DanB24 arguably so. Better directiona and pacing would have drastically improved it. I'm hoping its getting some deliberate setup details out of the way in one slow episode.
  • DanB24 9 Apr 2013 17:14:16 1,398 posts
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    @RobTheBuilder Glad you agree. :) And yeah you're right they could just be trying to establish things and perhaps something we saw there will turn out to be pivotal come the season end?

    Is it wrong that I think I know which episode that is above?
    I've looked at none of the comments on it but I think it's "Horror of Fang rock" :o :D
  • DanB24 9 Apr 2013 17:49:42 1,398 posts
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    And it's fan made but a very awesome trailer. :D


    Edited by DanB24 at 17:50:18 09-04-2013

    Edited by DanB24 at 17:51:15 09-04-2013
  • M83J01P97 9 Apr 2013 18:38:39 6,390 posts
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    Roddles wrote:
    I remember they showed this on a late night Sci-Fi Channel show called HeadF**K back in the late 90's/early 00's (presented by David Icke of all people) and it really creeped me out as they gave it no kind of explanation at all. It was only years later I learnt the real story behind it.
  • GiarcYekrub 10 Apr 2013 14:53:18 3,585 posts
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    I like Clara, but I think the first 2 episodes this half have been about as week as the worst last year(A Town Called Mercy) which I gave an 8/10 in fact, I've given "Rings" also a 8/10 and "Bells" 6/10 or though on reflection I think I may of been a little harsh, I just felt the pacing was off. In general though Season 7 is still running high in my Average ratings:

    Season 6(AR:8.79)
    Season 7(AR:8.75) (8 of 13)
    Season 5(AR:8.64)
    Season 4(AR:8.36)
    Season 2(AR:7.71)
    Season 1(AR:7.57)
    Season 3(AR:7.07)
  • mal 10 Apr 2013 15:40:11 22,002 posts
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    You gave a Town Called Mercy an 8?

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  • RobAnybody 10 Apr 2013 16:31:07 829 posts
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    Perhaps he meant .8 ?

    :)
  • M83J01P97 13 Apr 2013 18:27:13 6,390 posts
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    Would it not have been a little less confusing just to have the crew of the Submarine be British? Instead of hiring a bunch of British actors to play Russians without of a hint of an accent...?
  • DanB24 13 Apr 2013 18:51:24 1,398 posts
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    Cracking episode imo. :D
  • Whizzo 13 Apr 2013 18:54:56 42,772 posts
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    Really enjoyed that, an Alien/Red October mash up with the return of the Ice Warriors, more like that one please!

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  • GrandpaUlrira 13 Apr 2013 19:12:12 3,751 posts
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    It's nice to watch an episode where you don't have to make excuses in your head for the cringeworthy bits. Good stuff.
  • MatMan562 13 Apr 2013 19:38:05 1,937 posts
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    M83J01P97 wrote:
    Would it not have been a little less confusing just to have the crew of the Submarine be British? Instead of hiring a bunch of British actors to play Russians without of a hint of an accent...?
    I've always wondered whether the Tardis translating would still leave them with an accent or not... but I guess it just depends on what actors they can get.

    I also enjoyed this episode! The next one looks potentially interesting as well.

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  • BinaryBob101 13 Apr 2013 20:07:35 21,969 posts
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    Great episode that. Excellent suspense from the off and top family viewing. Shame about the shooting, but it can't be flawless can it?

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  • Ged42 13 Apr 2013 20:11:47 7,643 posts
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    Wow a Doctor Who episode with some tension and a bad guy who isn't just mwah ha ha evil, haven't had one of those in a while.

    Great stuff :)
  • X201 13 Apr 2013 20:48:29 14,704 posts
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    I thought it had a 1960's Who feel to it.

    I liked it. The boy Gattiss did well.

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  • RobTheBuilder 13 Apr 2013 21:29:03 6,521 posts
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    @M83J01P97 there was a real Russian sub that sank in 1983. I think it's meant to be that one!
  • RobTheBuilder 13 Apr 2013 21:33:04 6,521 posts
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    I did enjoy that episode. Better paced and story than last week by a mile. I think Clara is an interesting companion although I'm hoping the whole romance thing is a bit less blatant than being implied right now.
  • Darren 13 Apr 2013 22:37:44 8,322 posts
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    Well "Cold War" wasn't brilliant but it was entertaining and far better than the drivel shown in the previous two weeks IMO. The Doctor was more restrained and the humour was dialed back sufficiently to allow the episode to be more serious than usual. David Warner, amusingly listening to 80s classics, and that guy from Game of Thrones added a bit of class to the proceedings and overall it wasn't half bad except for an underwhelming villain and some naff effects. I'm still not too keen on Clara as a companion; she's very two-dimensional so far.

    Still, this episode proves that Doctor Who can be decent if they write the show as drama rather than a kid's comedy. Humour is fine to lighten the mood but all too often Doctor Who overuses it and it ruins the episodes but they got it right here, just about. Next week's episode looks interesting as well. Things might be looking up at last...

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  • RobTheBuilder 13 Apr 2013 22:43:59 6,521 posts
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    @Darren I thought they did better at making her more rounded this week. Acting brave but actually affected by seeing death.
  • Spong 14 Apr 2013 02:42:13 524 posts
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    I guess I watched a different episode to everyone else. I thought it was the worst of the three we've had so far, it felt like a space saver episode with its three sets (each seeming to use recycled scenery).
  • Gambit1977 14 Apr 2013 08:48:30 9,572 posts
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    I'm with you mate, in fact, I fell asleep only to wake up at 7:15 with my sky box well and truly frozen, damn you doctor!!!
  • localnotail 14 Apr 2013 09:14:48 23,093 posts
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    Fans of the original series will enjoy this radio show about the initial episode.

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  • Scimarad 14 Apr 2013 10:09:07 8,501 posts
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    Really, enjoyed this one. Interesting to not be in the minority for a change...
  • TOOTR 14 Apr 2013 19:17:20 9,473 posts
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    Hungry like the wolf is an epic tune.

    And as for Russian accents in subs the best one to use is a Scottish one - everyone knows that.

    Edited by TOOTR at 19:17:36 14-04-2013

    Everybody should just calm down a little bit and have a nice cup of tea.

  • DFawkes 14 Apr 2013 19:31:47 22,081 posts
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    Indeed, alwaysh a Scotshman for your Russian shubmariner needsh.

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