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  • Daryoon 22 Apr 2006 20:42:47 4,621 posts
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    That Torchwood bit at the end was almost as ropey as the premise of the spin-off! Also random Shaolin Monks beating up farmers, in bullet-time? I was hoping Tony Martin was going to show up at the end of the scene and shoot them ;_;
  • Darth_Flibble 22 Apr 2006 20:45:34 1,671 posts
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    I thought it was poor, didn't enjoy it and Torchwood bit was very heavy handed, it was like beating the viewer round the head with a bottle

    Edited by Darth_Flibble at 20:55:08 22-04-2006
  • Deleted user 22 April 2006 20:51:57
    Darth_Flibble wrote:
    ...Torchwood bit was very heavy handed, it was liking beating the viewer round the head with a bottle
    +1

    But I enjoyed the ep, except for the actual moon-beam denouement with the werewolf which was a bit convenient. Some really enjoyable capers :D I'm liking David Tennant more and more but we do need some darkness to him now. I suspect that won't happen next week...
  • Retroid Moderator 22 Apr 2006 20:58:20 44,512 posts
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    MUCH better than last week's, primarily because RTD didn't have to prove again how shit he is with any kind of scifi :/

    BUT - being held hostage by BBC continuity announcers? :D
  • PES_Fanboy 22 Apr 2006 21:30:24 14,974 posts
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    DrPhil wrote:
    gerg wrote:
    They really need to do a parody special of Doctor Who again, like that one with Rowan Atkinson.
    They should have Ant and Dec as the Doctor(s), and Cat Deeley as the companion.

    Theres a Chuckle Brothers Dr Who parody touring soon, which I for one can't wait to go and see!

    Funny this should be mentioned, I was just Googling (well, IMDBing, if you want to get technical) Russell T. Davies, and his first writing job was for Chucklevision.

    He's sure come a long way. To you....
  • twinbee 22 Apr 2006 21:34:57 442 posts
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    There's a porn parody about...

    Dr Screw, NSFW.
  • Artemus 22 Apr 2006 21:38:48 1,007 posts
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    Pretty good stuff this week, I thought. Methinks the director was watching Alien 3 from a couple of those shots.

    I'm noticing this a lot more than last year, these last two episodes have moved along at a ridiculously fast pace. I think I'd prefer two-parters all the way through so they can develop the stories a bit more. There's some good ideas but everything feels squashed in. Also the music is too loud. Turn it down please.

    Oh yeah, where did the monks go? Were they conveniently forgotten about?
  • DrPhil 22 Apr 2006 21:47:54 693 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    DrPhil wrote:
    gerg wrote:
    They really need to do a parody special of Doctor Who again, like that one with Rowan Atkinson.
    They should have Ant and Dec as the Doctor(s), and Cat Deeley as the companion.

    Theres a Chuckle Brothers Dr Who parody touring soon, which I for one can't wait to go and see!

    Funny this should be mentioned, I was just Googling (well, IMDBing, if you want to get technical) Russell T. Davies, and his first writing job was for Chucklevision.

    He's sure come a long way. To you....

    ha ha, amazing.

    Dr. Who: "Oh dear!"

    Rose: "Oh dear oh dear!"
  • Deleted user 22 April 2006 21:50:17
    I was on the phone to my mum when it came on, and she was watching it as well, and she said "Hmm looks a bit too 'Crouching Tiger' to me. In Scotland?? Pffft".

    Well she didn't say "Pffft" but she might as well have...

    I also agree with the episodes being better as two-parters (shame they've only gone and written and filmed the whole series by now so there's no point moaning about it because I think only a couple are two parters). And didn't the old Doctor Who series used to be 1 story over many episodes?

    And yes, they still haven't fixed the music from the last series. Too loud and too much of it!
  • Artemus 22 Apr 2006 22:12:05 1,007 posts
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    Owen-B wrote:
    And didn't the old Doctor Who series used to be 1 story over many episodes?

    Yeah some stories would stretch seven episodes! Each series would only have around five stories, but then episodes were 20 minutes long as opposed to 45. Well until late on.
  • James-Caldari 22 Apr 2006 22:16:46 2,103 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    DrPhil wrote:
    gerg wrote:
    They really need to do a parody special of Doctor Who again, like that one with Rowan Atkinson.
    They should have Ant and Dec as the Doctor(s), and Cat Deeley as the companion.

    Theres a Chuckle Brothers Dr Who parody touring soon, which I for one can't wait to go and see!

    Funny this should be mentioned, I was just Googling (well, IMDBing, if you want to get technical) Russell T. Davies, and his first writing job was for Chucklevision.

    He's sure come a long way. To you....

    ...To me.

    Well, someone had to.
  • JammyB 22 Apr 2006 23:08:18 756 posts
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    1. The special effects are dreadful. If you can't afford to do CG properly then just use costumes for fuck sake. Everything is so polished it looks like it came straight out of Toy Story.
    2. The moralising and heart tugging is getting really irritating now. The worst example of this was the Dalek episode which was ruined by all the touch-feely nonsense. Captain Janeway used to do it a bit but she was never this bad.
    3. The way the episodes half-heartedly commentate on current topics is pissing me off too. All the best sci-fi does it, but it does it subtley. All that stuff with Torchwood blowing up the retreating spaceship at the end of the last series was cringeworthy as were the stupid references to the royal family in this last one.
    4. None of the monsters are scary at all. I swear I'm not looking through rose-tinted glasses - the old Dr Who had genuinely nasty bad guys and plenty of innocent people dying (and not getting brought back to life at the end either :/ ).

    I hated Billie Piper before Dr Who but I think her and both Doctors have done brilliantly despite the dreadful stories.
  • Deleted user 22 April 2006 23:29:04
    Agree with everything you said, JammyB. Except, I think they can afford to do CG properly. They just choose to go the shiny route. Having said that, those bright red shaolin monks cg'd onto the atmospherically lit background as they 'flew' through the air was really baaaaaaad...

    Despite all of that, though, it's still pretty good fun!

    Edited by Owen-B at 13:13:54 23-04-2006
  • MetalDog 23 Apr 2006 00:32:58 23,697 posts
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    You guys do remember the giant prawn from the Tom Baker era, right? It's no worse than it ever was effects-wise. Considerably better, in fact.

    I really do wish they'd turn that music down though. Can't get subs on it to follow the dialogue and get bleeding ears every time an action sequence comes along.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Artemus 23 Apr 2006 13:12:35 1,007 posts
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    JammyB why are you still watching?
  • JammyB 23 Apr 2006 14:07:20 756 posts
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    Why does that matter to you anyway? I pay my licence fee so why shouldn't I be allowed to criticise the programme? Presumably you're not genuinely interested in how I spend my time so this is just a rather unsubtle way to stifle the debate.

    It fails anyway since the last paragraph of my post explains why I still watch it, and obviously there are the odd moments where the programme does elevate itself beyond what I posted.
  • Artemus 23 Apr 2006 16:39:06 1,007 posts
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    JammyB wrote:
    Why does that matter to you anyway? I pay my licence fee so why shouldn't I be allowed to criticise the programme? Presumably you're not genuinely interested in how I spend my time so this is just a rather unsubtle way to stifle the debate.

    It fails anyway since the last paragraph of my post explains why I still watch it, and obviously there are the odd moments where the programme does elevate itself beyond what I posted.

    I never said you weren't allowed to criticise, did I. I'm just suprised that someone with criticisms such as yours is still watching 15 episodes later.
  • Deleted user 29 April 2006 19:45:52
    I gather that Rose Tyler's boyfriend is going to become the new 'assistant' when she buggers off.

    Based on the evidence so far, when that happens the show is going to have to pull the stops out script-wise to maintain my interest. He's rubbish and I'm not afraid to say that the (sexual) chemistry between Tennant and Piper is one of the really entertaining elements of the show at the moment.
  • gerg 29 Apr 2006 20:11:15 880 posts
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    Today's episode wasn't really anything special. I rate it somewhere between New Earth and Tooth and Claw.
  • meggsy 29 Apr 2006 20:18:29 1,628 posts
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    Space_Ranger wrote:
    I liked tonights episode.
    /wipes tear

    I blame my teary eyes on a hangover

    /is watching tv in a different room to the rest of the family to avoid embarrassment.

    3DS: 3454-0647-5991

  • Deleted user 29 April 2006 20:23:04
    I'm only just finished watching it because I kept pausing it on Sky+ to get beer/pizza/have a slash...

    Shit man... that brought many many tears to my eyes. :(

    The story was shit and so were those stupid gargoyle things, but dammit that David Tennant was pretty good at playing the emotional heartstrings. And K9! Was just as reliable at getting them out of the shit as ever, and he didn't get destroyed after all!

    :)

    EDIT I'm a little wary of something calling itself a "Tard-isode"...wtf?

    Edited by Owen-B at 20:23:36 29-04-2006
  • Deleted user 29 April 2006 20:30:08
    Oh, there's something that never fails to bug me though - what's with the softlight filter on all the shots?! Bugs the hell out of me...
  • Deleted user 29 April 2006 20:39:55
    Space_Ranger wrote:
    Thing is, although I have liked Dr Who since it's return, why does most of it take place on Earth? He can go anywhere in time and space and yet he fooks about on Earth!
    +1
  • Daryoon 29 Apr 2006 20:47:47 4,621 posts
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    Why did the school explode, that was entirely random o_O
  • Artemus 29 Apr 2006 21:21:51 1,007 posts
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    Thought it was the best one so far. Really enjoyed it.

    The pacing was better and the music didn't seem quite so loud and overbearing. Admittedly, the plot took second place, but this was a always going to be a character ep. The SJ/Doctor scenes were all brilliant. I was worried about K9's reappearance but thankfully he was used sparingly.

    Antony Head was really good. I remember he said in an interview about Buffy how much he'd like to play a villain. Guess he got his wish here instead. I like to see him as a recurring character. Or he at least deserves another episode.

    Shock! I actually quite liked Mickey this episode. The one character who did annoy me was Rose! Her selfish nature and arrogance is starting to get old. Still it only means she's heading for a fall...
  • Machetazo 29 Apr 2006 21:25:02 6,372 posts
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    Daryoon wrote:
    Why did the school explode, that was entirely random o_O
    Alien slime (possibly corrosive, as it certainly wasn't a pleasant experience for the dinnerlady it spilt onto) + school electric sytem = ...

    There was a whole Demon Headmaster-esque thing going on, but Anthony Head as the Headmaster was convincingly creepy, so the performances were able to carry the hackneyed tale this week.

    The Doctor was on top form. He really shone today, I felt.

    @Owen-B: Those Tardis-odes are basically prologues, leading into the following week's episode. They last about a minute each.
  • Deleted user 29 April 2006 21:32:38
    Artemus wrote:
    Thought it was the best one so far. Really enjoyed it.

    The pacing was better and the music didn't seem quite so loud and overbearing. Admittedly, the plot took second place, but this was a always going to be a character ep. The SJ/Doctor scenes were all brilliant. I was worried about K9's reappearance but thankfully he was used sparingly.

    Antony Head was really good. I remember he said in an interview about Buffy how much he'd like to play a villain. Guess he got his wish here instead. I like to see him as a recurring character. Or he at least deserves another episode.

    Shock! I actually quite liked Mickey this episode. The one character who did annoy me was Rose! Her selfish nature and arrogance is starting to get old. Still it only means she's heading for a fall...

    Hmm... Yeah, but she's cute. But yes, also petulant and annoying. Tennant was good this week.

    GAFF OF THE WEEK: one second all the schoolkids have the headphones on (and I was sure that the only way to save them was going to be the old Flash Gordon trick of ripping the headphones off - well it was the eyewear in Flash, but same idea), and then the second Mickey ripped the plug out, cut back to row upon row of schoolkids sans headphones, looking around and then running out the room. Woops! ;)
  • Artemus 29 Apr 2006 21:45:29 1,007 posts
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    I wouldn't write Mickey off just yet. He has an interesting character arc coming up. Rose is also being deliberately turned into a bit of a cow this year. It's all for a good reason.
  • Daryoon 29 Apr 2006 23:17:29 4,621 posts
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    Artemus wrote:
    I wouldn't write Mickey off just yet. He has an interesting character arc coming up. Rose is also being deliberately turned into a bit of a cow this year. It's all for a good reason.

    As long as it's nothing to do with some silly potential spin-off then it's all good
  • kingmob 29 Apr 2006 23:18:49 136 posts
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    I'm glad there was less Rose this week, she is getting annoying (although intentionally so).

    Mickey was great and I'm glad he's getting his go in the TARDIS.

    But the whole "My Sarah Jane" bit... I swear an invisible fly went straight into my eye at that moment and made them water for no apparent reason.
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