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Dirtbox wrote:I guess you'll just have to take my word for it...
How do I know you're really RabidMonkey?
RabidMonkey wrote:Sue him!
So I went along to my solicitors office this afternoon to get this thing sorted out and sue this punk. However, once I told my legal adviser what I wanted to do he replied: "What are you nuts?" Once I assured him I was not, and was, in fact, deadly serious, he began to laugh right in my face.
Undeterred by this completely unexpected reaction, I proceeded to display my evidence that would support me in a court of law; he began to laugh even louder before shouting to his assistant (a total ass, by the way) "Did you hear what he just said?", the assistant replied: "yyyy...eahaaaaa!!!"
After about half an hour of them just laughing at me, I decided I had had enough and left. Needless to say, I won't be using that guy again, even if he is my father!
RabidMonkey wrote:Just give hime the details of this particular case, found in this thread, then he might reconsider.
So I went along to my solicitors office this afternoon to get this thing sorted out and sue this punk. However, once I told my legal adviser what I wanted to do he replied: "What are you nuts?" Once I assured him I was not, and was, in fact, deadly serious, he began to laugh right in my face.
Undeterred by this completely unexpected reaction, I proceeded to display my evidence that would support me in a court of law; he began to laugh even louder before shouting to his assistant (a total ass, by the way) "Did you hear what he just said?", the assistant replied: "yyyy...eahaaaaa!!!"
After about half an hour of them just laughing at me, I decided I had had enough and left. Needless to say, I won't be using that guy again, even if he is my father!
RabidMonkey wrote:LOL!
So I went along to my solicitors office this afternoon to get this thing sorted out and sue this punk. However, once I told my legal adviser what I wanted to do he replied: "What are you nuts?" Once I assured him I was not, and was, in fact, deadly serious, he began to laugh right in my face.
Undeterred by this completely unexpected reaction, I proceeded to display my evidence that would support me in a court of law; he began to laugh even louder before shouting to his assistant (a total ass, by the way) "Did you hear what he just said?", the assistant replied: "yyyy...eahaaaaa!!!"
After about half an hour of them just laughing at me, I decided I had had enough and left. Needless to say, I won't be using that guy again, even if he is my father!
grayson wrote:Oooohh, extremely tough luck.
i just found out this morning that someone cleaned out my account with a series of maximum ATM transactions over the course of a few days.
very scary stuff. like most people i use my card a lot and never really think about whos looking over my shoulder when putting my pin number in at petrol stations/pubs etc.
a little bit of advice from dr-gray, not that anyone will listen (i know i wouldnt have until this morning), but you *really* have to be very careful these days on how you use your card. chip & pin has only been around for a few months and already people are copying it willy-nilly.
there is a lot to be said for keeping your money under your mattress these days.
RabidMonkey wrote:Genuine lol (it's catching!!)
So I went along to my solicitors office this afternoon to get this thing sorted out and sue this punk. However, once I told my legal adviser what I wanted to do he replied: "What are you nuts?" Once I assured him I was not, and was, in fact, deadly serious, he began to laugh right in my face.
Undeterred by this completely unexpected reaction, I proceeded to display my evidence that would support me in a court of law; he began to laugh even louder before shouting to his assistant (a total ass, by the way) "Did you hear what he just said?", the assistant replied: "yyyy...eahaaaaa!!!"
After about half an hour of them just laughing at me, I decided I had had enough and left. Needless to say, I won't be using that guy again, even if he is my father!
deathgibbon wrote:Not necessarily. The banks claim the chip and pin system is completely uncrackable - so if someone gets access to your account it's your fault. They're not liable.
Hard luck, grayson. I assume you receive compensation from the bank or something?
Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!
grayson wrote:That's good news certainly. I'm already pretty careful about where I use my pin (use cash if in doubt) but I'll be doubly careful now.mal wrote:its gonna take up to a month to sort out apparently, but i should get most of it back.
Not necessarily. The banks claim the chip and pin system is completely uncrackable - so if someone gets access to your account it's your fault. They're not liable.
Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!
Come and get it cumslingers!
otto wrote:Been away and used the card a couple of times - both times i got phone calls from the bank within an hour to ask where i was. Quite impressed but i suppose it's only their own backs they're covering.Furbs wrote:Agreed. I was quite impressed when the bank phoned me a few minutes after I made the first major purchase with my new card, to check it was really me.
When I used to work in retail I couldnt believe the amount of people who got shitty when you got asked to get manual authorisation putting through a £1500 PC. Absolutely stupid (was always the upthemselves wankers who looked down their nose at you too and took it as a personal insult).
Personally, if I was a bit worried my £500 360 purchase didnt get queried by the bank.
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dravenclarke wrote:Sorry that happened to you grayson. I hope you get your money back.
i bet you got stung by one of those card reader things stuck onto the front of the atm.. pretty easy to spot if your looking, but if your in a hurry or pissed then your basically just giving your money away.. ive seen one clearly stuck onto a bank machine so i just walked on by, i rang the bank in question when i got home but i expect the theifs had already been and removed it by then.
Furbs wrote:I was born there and I'm a dodgy bastard so I can only agree with you.
Thats Essex for you.
And I'm a resident so I can say that.
quedex wrote:The chips not been cracked (yet). Sounds like you were busted by a card copying device in an ATM.dravenclarke wrote:Sorry that happened to you grayson. I hope you get your money back.
i bet you got stung by one of those card reader things stuck onto the front of the atm.. pretty easy to spot if your looking, but if your in a hurry or pissed then your basically just giving your money away.. ive seen one clearly stuck onto a bank machine so i just walked on by, i rang the bank in question when i got home but i expect the theifs had already been and removed it by then.
In theory, these card skimmers shouldn't work any more - most of the ATM machines will only read the chip for authorisation and not the mag-stripe. I accidentally killed the chip on my card last month and all of the high street or supermarket machines would reject the card before I even got to the "Withdraw Cash" menu. I even tried taking the chip off the card in case the machine was detecting it was broken, but still no joy.
I never tried using the card in a shop to see if they would take it. In theory, the shops should refuse to accept the card without a working chip because the banks decided to shift liability for fraudulent transactions to the shop. I have no idea if this would bother a large retailer like Tesco, but I suspect it wouldn't change much.
This shifts the problem now with the criminals needing to create fake chip card readers, but they would have to get those into shops somehow. Just sticking a device on an ATM won't work without cloning the chip.
Unless of course the crims have found a way of taking the account details off a mag stripe and putting them on a new chip, but if that happens, we're all screwed.
Furbs wrote:I agree, even though my signature changes from day to day and depending on how stoned I am.
This may have been brought up before, but am I the only person who still prefers to sign? Personally, matching my signature is a whole lot harder than seeing my PIN in my opinion.
rodpad wrote:Yeah, although I think you should still have a good case if the mag stripe was used - although whether you take that up with the retailer or the bank is questionnable.Mike_Hunt wrote:Woh, is that true? Although it's highly unlikely that anyone will use your card (or clone) in a shop (which is the only place that accepts/uses chip n pin)
As others have said, because the chip & pin system is 100% secure (utter bullshit) you are now liable and the banks don't have to refund any money lost through fraud.
[MH]
Edited by rodpad at 12:44:44 13-04-2006
Furbs wrote:PIN is *much* more secure, providing you take care when entering it and don't keep a copy of the number in your wallet.
This may have been brought up before, but am I the only person who still prefers to sign? Personally, matching my signature is a whole lot harder than seeing my PIN in my opinion.
Now I know your average till monkey at Tescos doest take any notice what you've written, but if someone was ripping off your card, I'd imagine they'd buy big whilst they could, when I think most people would be a bit more vigilant. Or is that naive?
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