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  • DFawkes 26 May 2010 17:15:10 19,305 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Anyone get their knob out and have a wank while they are waiting for the person to finish their spiel?

    Not that I do. Just wondering. You are afterall a bunch of sexual deviants.
    I've never had to get it out, no. If I'm close to the phone, cock out is my default position.

    Kirby is the man! Even if he wasn't, he'd just ingest and become one.

  • mcmonkeyplc 26 May 2010 17:16:27 35,883 posts
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    /Calls Fawkes

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • w00t 26 May 2010 17:17:17 10,488 posts
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    I managed to bore a Jehova's Witness into making her excuses and leaving.

    Well, she did ask what I believed in if it wasn't God.

    I went into a very quickly-spoken decription of transhumanism and various reasons why the Bible was not absolute truth, but a book with a few decent ideas and crazy stories. I wouldn't have bothered but she was pretty.

    If you can see this, you're an idiot.

  • nickthegun 26 May 2010 17:19:11 44,587 posts
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    DFawkes wrote:
    I would've thought by your username you'd just ask them if they knew where you could find sailors.
    Or ask them for a game of Lucky Hit.

    Hi, this is dave from wanker windows
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    Er, no thanks. We just called to say we have people in your area giving free...
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    No thanks.... giving free quotes for doors and windows. Would you be interested in a call?
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    Fuck off

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    AGP.SRPT

  • Fat_Pigeon 26 May 2010 17:21:48 9,619 posts
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    Depends what mood im in, if im in a good mood i'll probably come up with some elaborate story,involving giant land loving sharks wearing fire engine roller skates, that way my imagination has a bit of fun and they are likely to be cheer up while telling the rest of the people in his office he may have just accidentaly rang the nuthouse!

    if not a quick sorry im busy - hang up

    or i just put the phone down if there is a short break before anyone starts speaking

  • Thedni 26 May 2010 17:33:27 16 posts
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    w00t wrote:
    I managed to bore a Jehova's Witness into making her excuses and leaving.

    Well, she did ask what I believed in if it wasn't God.

    I went into a very quickly-spoken decription of transhumanism and various reasons why the Bible was not absolute truth, but a book with a few decent ideas and crazy stories. I wouldn't have bothered but she was pretty.
    I do enjoy when they knock on my door, it's one of the few times I can get away with claiming to be a 'man of science'. Oh organised religion! How silly you are. I've also adopted the 'Men Who Stare at Goats' method recently that works wonders. Not managed to stop one's heart yet, there's always next time.

    I get very few via phone these days which is good, get more wrong numbers after the local chinease... and people looking to adopt dogs [That's always a blast].
  • Rusty_M 26 May 2010 17:34:42 3,615 posts
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    It's very hard to walk along streets around my work without being bothered by someone with a clipboard. I just pretend I'm on the phone and they leave me alone

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.

  • speedofthepuma 26 May 2010 17:35:59 12,900 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    DFawkes wrote:
    I would've thought by your username you'd just ask them if they knew where you could find sailors.
    Or ask them for a game of Lucky Hit.

    Hi, this is dave from wanker windows
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    Er, no thanks. We just called to say we have people in your area giving free...
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    No thanks.... giving free quotes for doors and windows. Would you be interested in a call?
    How about a game of lucky hit?
    Fuck off
    Like it nick - if they say OK then..?

    I've turned off all the avatars and crap, so don't expect me to be impressed by yours.

  • Ginger 26 May 2010 17:36:08 6,748 posts
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    why all the elaborate games? I just ignore them (clipboarders) or say "no thanks" adn hang up.

    London open taekwondo champion

  • Drpwnage 26 May 2010 17:41:59 687 posts
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    Another vote here for registering with the TPS, it takes about a month to cut out calls as the various call centres update their lists against the TPS data base, but I only ever get called by companies I am already a customer of.

  • Ged42 26 May 2010 17:44:40 7,408 posts
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    Rusty_M wrote:
    It's very hard to walk along streets around my work without being bothered by someone with a clipboard. I just pretend I'm on the phone and they leave me alone
    I say "Sorry, in a rush"

    ... if it's a woman with a clipboard...

    ... and she's fit.

    Otherwise I ignore them or give them a mad look.
  • LionheartDJH 27 May 2010 02:29:40 18,583 posts
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    Smuggo wrote:
    johnlenham wrote:
    Might not be relevant to most on here but the young folks can use the "under 18" against clipboard goons.
    My brother got stoppe dby one and he said about how the guy gave a massive speech and my brother nodded along until the end
    "So how old are you sir!"
    "17! " with an added grin
    The guys face was priceless.
    It the most effective way and ive used it myself a few times but mostly just avoid them.
    Just telling them to fuck off generally works better and is much quicker.
    I've only ever been approached by one once, and I actually did that. I had just broke up with my gf and had to go to work so I was in a pretty bad frame of mind and the last thing I needed was one of those guys coming over to me. I had my earphones in so I thought he'd ignore me but I think because I was wearing smartish attire that attracted his attention. He came over to me and said something, didn't really hear what he said, but I just told him to eff off with a scowl on my face. I think he called me a wanker as I walked off, which I guess was fair enough. I actually regretted it later because it was pretty out of character for me.

    Since coming to uni though I've seen them quite often downtown but not been approached once in almost 2 years. Guess they know fellow students don't have any money so they leave you alone.

    A wise man told me don't argue with fools
    Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

  • mwtb 27 May 2010 02:41:53 2,375 posts
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    The only time I've really lost my rag with a clip-board mugger was when they, for some inexplicable reason, were let loose inside my local Sainsbury's. The first two got a reasonably polite "No thanks". The third just got told to "go away" and the fourth decided to accost me as I was deciding which cereal to buy and I said something like "Look, will you twats just leave me alone to do my shopping?" before the internal editor got to his desk.

    Still, fuck them. Fuck them for making me feel bad about just wanting to be left in peace.
  • otto Moderator 27 May 2010 09:29:08 49,238 posts
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    Thedni wrote:
    w00t wrote:
    I managed to bore a Jehova's Witness into making her excuses and leaving.

    Well, she did ask what I believed in if it wasn't God.

    I went into a very quickly-spoken decription of transhumanism and various reasons why the Bible was not absolute truth, but a book with a few decent ideas and crazy stories. I wouldn't have bothered but she was pretty.
    I do enjoy when they knock on my door, it's one of the few times I can get away with claiming to be a 'man of science'. Oh organised religion! How silly you are. I've also adopted the 'Men Who Stare at Goats' method recently that works wonders. Not managed to stop one's heart yet, there's always next time.

    I get very few via phone these days which is good, get more wrong numbers after the local chinease... and people looking to adopt dogs [That's always a blast].
    Similar story here, back when I was a student I managed to pwn some poor Jehovah botherer who tried to cite the Greek New Testament at me. I went upstairs, grabbed a copy of the Greek NT, came back down, asked him to read it to me. He couldn't, I could, I pwned him, he left. Pretty pathetic in hindsight, these days I'd give him a polite not today thank you and shut the door on him. Having yelling small children running around your ankles is always a useful prop to demonstrate why you don't have time to debate angels on the heads of pins.

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  • MetalDog 27 May 2010 09:44:21 23,448 posts
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    mwtb wrote:
    Still, fuck them. Fuck them for making me feel bad about just wanting to be left in peace.
    Don't feel bad. They get paid to hassle you and they just change charity t-shirts/jackets between jobs, they're not really attached to the charities they're chugging for.

    I lost all patience with them when some spotty little fart tried guilt tripping me about not making a direct debit and not 'helping the children' when I was unemployed, sliding further and further into the red and eating little more than rice and economy bacon seven days a week. At least when I work for charities, I do it for free, you fucking shitbags - take your clipboards and shove them up your arse.

    People rattling tins, no problem. They don't home in on you, they're far more likely to be volunteers instead of people drawing a wage and they don't want a permanant reservation at the teat of your bank account.

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  • Widge Moderator 27 May 2010 09:53:27 10,540 posts
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    My company deals in Procurement, so I usually tell them that anything they offer me my company can get me cheaper and the company earns money too.

    Cavity wall grants seem to be a big thing at the moment. Some bod pops round the other day "I'm calling from a company called Miller Pattison..." and I immediately launched in with "AH YES, cavity wall fillings..." promptly told him that all my prices were cheaper than what he could offer and my company earns 4% on anything I buy. Quickly realise that its a losing battle then.

    Energy sales people in supermarkets can FUCK RIGHT OFF. Tell them you are on an internet deal and usually they won't bother with you as they know your prices are cheaper.

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  • LionheartDJH 27 May 2010 09:55:11 18,583 posts
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    I agree with what you're saying MetalDog, I met one of the recruiters for this kind of work at a jobs fare when I first got to uni. He was telling me how much money you could make off it, with the bonuses and everything, but my friend and me had a little argument with him about the whole thing, saying we'd feel uncomfortable working for a company that makes money from people's charity.

    Still I wouldn't mind being approached by one from Green Peace too much. I'd entertain them a bit and then say I'd rather use the money to buy shares in an oil company, and see what they say to that.

    A wise man told me don't argue with fools
    Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

  • DaM 27 May 2010 09:56:22 11,756 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Thedni wrote:
    w00t wrote:
    I managed to bore a Jehova's Witness into making her excuses and leaving.

    Well, she did ask what I believed in if it wasn't God.

    I went into a very quickly-spoken decription of transhumanism and various reasons why the Bible was not absolute truth, but a book with a few decent ideas and crazy stories. I wouldn't have bothered but she was pretty.
    I do enjoy when they knock on my door, it's one of the few times I can get away with claiming to be a 'man of science'. Oh organised religion! How silly you are. I've also adopted the 'Men Who Stare at Goats' method recently that works wonders. Not managed to stop one's heart yet, there's always next time.

    I get very few via phone these days which is good, get more wrong numbers after the local chinease... and people looking to adopt dogs [That's always a blast].
    Similar story here, back when I was a student I managed to pwn some poor Jehovah botherer who tried to cite the Greek New Testament at me. I went upstairs, grabbed a copy of the Greek NT, came back down, asked him to read it to me. He couldn't, I could, I pwned him, he left. Pretty pathetic in hindsight, these days I'd give him a polite not today thank you and shut the door on him. Having yelling small children running around your ankles is always a useful prop to demonstrate why you don't have time to debate angels on the heads of pins.
    I bet he's posted on a JW forum about the madman who ran off and returned waving a Greek NT at him!
  • KD 27 May 2010 10:42:49 498 posts
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    When a clipboard holder looks at me in the high street I'll tell them straight away they are wasting time on me, thats since the not 18 excuse stopped working for me. With my phone i just refuse to answer any strange looking numbers like ones starting with 08.

    As for people knocking on doors they get a little credit off me because of the area I live being a little daunting. Any buisness callers get the door shut when they are mid sentence without a reason but religeous callers get an invite inside and a cuppa made for them, then when they thank me I get my rolling tray and skin up 2 joints of green and offer them 1. They normally look confused when your rolling them and hesitate to ask until you offer them it, I have had a few interesting chats about they're views on drugs and religeous views on drugs. Most make an excuse and bolt it but credit to the few who said yes and had a smoke :)
  • wayneh 27 May 2010 10:51:10 1,833 posts
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    My mate told me a good one about telesales. He got a call asking if he wanted a conservatory. He tried to say no but the man on the other end was really give it the big one about prices etc. so he caved in and said ok as his missus had always wanted a conservatory and arranged a time for the bloke to come around. A couple of days later the said bloke turned up only to find my mate lived in a second floor flat! Apparently he was not best pleased.

    My favourite with Jehovahs witnesses is to ask them if that at the end of the world will I be guaranteed a seat in heaven as there are more Jehovahs witnesses than there are seats as it is a finite number. And if I am not guaranteed a seat what will happen to me have I just wasted my time and should have chose a different religion?

    Act like a dumbshit and they will treat you as an equal

  • otto Moderator 27 May 2010 10:57:12 49,238 posts
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    wayneh wrote:
    My favourite with Jehovahs witnesses is to ask them if that at the end of the world will I be guaranteed a seat in heaven as there are more Jehovahs witnesses than there are seats as it is a finite number. And if I am not guaranteed a seat what will happen to me have I just wasted my time and should have chose a different religion?
    You realise that will just encourage them? That's right up their street.

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  • Salaman 27 May 2010 11:01:22 16,598 posts
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    Smuggo wrote:
    My house number seems to get endless calls from annoying machine-based message systems and people asking for the previous occupant (who is dead). I'm on TPS but it hasn't made a difference. Any tips on stopping it (particularly the machine one as screaming abuse at it isn't an option)?
    Get an old fashioned answer machine.
    Start your tape with 2 seconds of fax machine noise & then launch in to the "hi we're not here right now, please leave a message."

    I think I read somewhere the machine auto-dial systems hang up when they get the fax beeps and delete the number.
  • Bertie Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net 27 May 2010 11:25:40 1,727 posts
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    Tell them you're on the <a type="ext" href="http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/">Telephone Preference Service</a> - it's illegal for a telesales agents to continue to stay on the phone to you after that. At least, that's how I was trained when I worked for various telesales agencies.

    I did door-to-door sales too. One very effective way of getting rid of me was a scary looking man with two mean boxers straining at the leash to get at me. "Oh I can see you're busy I'll just move on."

  • The_Foo_Fighter 27 May 2010 11:28:56 724 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    As someone who used to do door-to-door charity sign ups (and a made a packet off it) I'd like to inform you all that you're witty retorts actually mean nothing. They don't affect the people doing it in the slightest and they just move on to the next one.

    As for the 'I'd rather be pennyless than do this sort of job' comment, of course you would son. Being homeless and hungry is the much better solution.
    /Stewie

    Oh you are just the WORST type of person

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  • heyyo 27 May 2010 11:55:44 14,313 posts
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    Until a few months back I was doing a charity fundraising job (you know, bucket, high street/inside supermarket doors, "give me money I NEED";) and every £25 raised £10 you kept.

    It was disgusting. I used raise £150 daily (but 'enthusiastic' (read:pretty girls) could easily raise £180-200 pitching 9.30 - 5.30), at the end of the day your bucket would be opened by the staff and your pay would come DIRECTLY from the bucket.

    I couldn't live with myself I was practically begging for money, but it was so much more interesting than self stacking and the competition to take home more money was intense, i.e., a list of 5 best fundraisers for the day, these fundraisers got to go to the best locations the following day etc.

    I had to chuck the job in though after I almost got arrested for pitching in a tube station which is illegal, and besides all the showers in the world couldn't make me clean (and i'm not talking about how I smelt from being next to benefit-fraud stinking chavs/ criminals who couldn't find real jobs).

    But anyway, the best way to get rid of charity fundraisers isn't telling them to "fuck off" you either a) upset a pretty girl b) get punched by criminals - i've seen both. You have to sympathise, telling them how hard it must be to stand around all day/confident to approach people/good cause etc basically act as though you think they're volunteering for free - then swiftly move on.

  • DaM 27 May 2010 12:05:29 11,756 posts
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    heyyo! wrote:
    Until a few months back I was doing a charity fundraising job (you know, bucket, high street/inside supermarket doors, "give me money I NEED";) and every £25 raised £10 you kept.
    I always assumed people with buckets were volunteers. 40% cut is shocking! How much else will come off for admin of the charity?

  • MetalDog 27 May 2010 12:07:48 23,448 posts
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    I think it's only the shaky tin people who are volunteers. So many big charities are just money-gouging exercises these days, it's a fucking disgrace.

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  • LionheartDJH 27 May 2010 12:16:17 18,583 posts
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    heyyo! wrote:
    But anyway, the best way to get rid of charity fundraisers isn't telling them to "fuck off" you either a) upset a pretty girl b) get punched by criminals - i've seen both. You have to sympathise, telling them how hard it must be to stand around all day/confident to approach people/good cause etc basically act as though you think they're volunteering for free - then swiftly move on.
    Why would anybody waste their time doing that? And it's pretty obvious that they're working for money, hardly anybody thinks that those people do that stuff out of the kindness of their hearts. They should sympathise with you because I bet they wouldn't like being accosted in the street by some desperate idiot with a clipboard or a bucket. Given the choice of quietly going about my business and stacking shelves or annoying people on the streets and getting abuse for it, I'd take shelf stacking anyday. Criminals and pretty girls? I've seen quite a few of these charity clipboard people while out and about and none of them seemed to fit that mould to me. Which is a shame as I wouldn't mind a pretty girl approaching me, seeing as they never do :(.

    A wise man told me don't argue with fools
    Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

  • heyyo 27 May 2010 12:42:12 14,313 posts
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    @DaM - when you sign up you have to pay a £15 'admin fee' and a further £5 for an ID card.

    @LDJH - I (and DaM :p) thought it was strictly volunteers, shamefully it was only when I found out money was involved I signed up.

    The girls that worked at the charity were stunning, model quailty - juxaposed with filthy benefit-fraud chavs, or those with a record to severe to get real jobs. Being an average looking student, I didn't conform to either stereotype (probably you met a whole bunch like me), but my gosh the work was interesting because of the mix of people.

    We used to get put into groups, new group of people everyday and travelling together from the office to the nicest (thus richest) parts of London, or to Oxford St/High St Kens etc and then travelling back - it beat self stacking 10x especially when the sun was shining.

    But like I said though, I chucked it in and instead got (have) a job doing call centre market research type stuff. The pay is complete shit compared.
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