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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 14:13:52 39,820 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    I'd rather his Kobayashi Maru was as before: you can always win but sometimes the cost is too great.
    I would be willing to bet a decent amount of money that exactly that happens.
    Yeah, it looked extremely likely from the latest trailer.

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  • DFawkes 17 Apr 2013 14:17:23 25,464 posts
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    Quick thought - could John Harrison be a Khan clone (possibly altered somehow)? If he was, you could hand wave away any issues him being Khan would raise - different personality, why he's around, why he was in Starfleet at some time, why he's up and around etc.

    Unlikely I know. Just typing out load.I still think it's not Khan, and they're still purposefully spreading misinformation and misdirection to create a proper reveal.

    I'm un-tagging this. It's not spoiling anything, it's just stuff I made up. If stuff I made up spoils the film for you, then I must be some kind of Celluloid Psychic :p

    Edited by DFawkes at 14:27:43 17-04-2013

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  • nickthegun 17 Apr 2013 14:22:55 63,372 posts
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    John Harrison is clearly going to be a cover name for Khan.

    Like Silvas real name in Skyfall was like Pedro Lopez or something. He's in a black star fleet uniform, so my money is on some kind of Black Ops gone rogue type situation.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 14:25:00 39,820 posts
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    There was also a scene where you could what looked like Cryo pods....

    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 14:26:00 17-04-2013

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  • nickthegun 17 Apr 2013 14:25:53 63,372 posts
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    It so clearly is. The trailer shows Kirk involved in a battle of wits with a genetic superman.

    There is absolutely no way its not Khan.

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  • DFawkes 17 Apr 2013 14:26:33 25,464 posts
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    I know that they don't care about old Trek now, and they totally wouldn't be fussy about pissing over TOS to make a good movie (which I still think they will have done), but I still hope they take old Trek into account with at least a token bullshit explanation if it is Khan.

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  • nickthegun 17 Apr 2013 14:31:07 63,372 posts
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    They dont really need any explanation other than the one they had in the original star trek: eugenics war, blah blah blah, cryogenically frozen, blah blah blah.

    Khans origins happen far, far before star trek (2009) fucked with the program, so they will still be out there somewhere.

    Edited by nickthegun at 14:31:42 17-04-2013

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 14:31:20 39,820 posts
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    This is reaching in the extreme but the shape of the saucer section of that ship that Cumberbatch turns up in looks similar that of the prime universe....

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 14:32:05 39,820 posts
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    It even looks like the Excelsior class ships a little...

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  • DFawkes 17 Apr 2013 14:45:31 25,464 posts
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    That did make me revisit the trailer and pause is, and I agree that it certainly has a Prime Universe look to it. Don't think we should read too much into it though.

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  • Buztafen 17 Apr 2013 14:55:51 16,834 posts
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    Some good, clean theorising going on on this page, keep it up gents.

    I too would like a look at a screen cap from the trailer showing Cumberbund's ship.
  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 15:00:57 39,820 posts
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    Pause the trailer at 1m 12sec and 1m 16sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#t=1m12s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#t=1m16s

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  • nickthegun 17 Apr 2013 15:01:32 63,372 posts
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    The reason people are asking for screencaps is likely because they cant get youtube at work

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 15:02:27 39,820 posts
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    Oh good point. Someone help them then :)

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  • nickthegun 17 Apr 2013 15:07:58 63,372 posts
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    press print screen!

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 15:19:07 39,820 posts
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    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 15:21:05 17-04-2013

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  • mcmonkeyplc 17 Apr 2013 15:38:51 39,820 posts
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    Like the original Excelsior in ST 3 then :)

    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 15:39:08 17-04-2013

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  • Deleted user 17 April 2013 16:01:49
    Maybe it's closer to the camera.
  • BinaryBob101 17 Apr 2013 16:07:40 25,494 posts
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    Would John being Khan be an amazing twist to a modern Trek audience though? I mean, I'm sure he probably is Khan, but would that have the necessary wow factor today? Probably not.

    The Excelsior ship looks like it's from the future, no? They wouldn't use time travel again surely.

    Edited by BinaryBob101 at 16:07:55 17-04-2013

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  • M83J01P97 17 Apr 2013 16:16:46 6,779 posts
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    I still think the years of rumours about Khan being in this sequel will have made Abrams & Co. actually avoid having the character in the film in some way shape or form. It just seems to easy option and Abrams likes to do things his own way.
  • Deleted user 17 April 2013 16:21:20
    Or maybe he's Garth of Izar! http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Garth_of_Izar
  • Deleted user 17 April 2013 16:21:36
    I have no idea who that is, google told me.
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