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  • Retroid Moderator 16 Dec 2005 10:46:29 45,018 posts
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    EMH FTW! \o/
  • Deleted user 16 December 2005 10:54:47
    tengu wrote:
    boabg wrote:
    I stopped watching Star Trek seriously after TNG. It just seemed to veer more away from Sci-Fi and into the realms of soap opera in space.

    You didn't see DS9 then? The best Star Trek series of the bunch.

    Ironically that's the very series that put me off.
  • Razz 16 Dec 2005 10:59:10 61,395 posts
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    boabg wrote:
    tengu wrote:
    boabg wrote:
    I stopped watching Star Trek seriously after TNG. It just seemed to veer more away from Sci-Fi and into the realms of soap opera in space.

    You didn't see DS9 then? The best Star Trek series of the bunch.

    Ironically that's the very series that put me off.

    Really? It was the most "human" Star Trek ever.
    And it really touched on Deep Serious 9Issues.

    Not like the cheese TNG coughed up.

    Edited by Razz at 10:59:37 16-12-2005

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  • Deleted user 16 December 2005 12:29:25
    tengu wrote:
    Aw... but it was so good (After a ropey first couple of seasons maybe).

    Maybe it was the first few that put me off. Was a long time ago now but it just didn't feel like proper Star Trek. I may have to revisit it though if you say it got better.

    I always thought that Star Trek was pretty cheesy, it's one of it's more endearing features.

  • morriss 16 Dec 2005 12:31:14 71,130 posts
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    saysomething wrote:
    /joins the running around screaming like a little girl...




    /get undressed and chases
  • Razz 16 Dec 2005 12:31:44 61,395 posts
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    If you do check it out again be sure to look out for Quark episodes. Best of the bunch

    Edited by Razz at 12:31:58 16-12-2005

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  • Haver 16 Dec 2005 12:43:55 3 posts
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    Voyager is totally awesome.

    I won't hear anything that suggests otherwise.
  • Razz 16 Dec 2005 12:50:15 61,395 posts
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    Even Season 7? Get out...

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  • saysomething 16 Dec 2005 13:01:03 1,245 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    saysomething wrote:
    /joins the running around screaming like a little girl...




    /get undressed and chases



    uuh...nasty.

    /runs faster
  • Razz 16 Dec 2005 13:01:50 61,395 posts
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    /whips with wet towel

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  • silentbob 16 Dec 2005 13:19:00 29,010 posts
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    Star Trek as a TV offering has become a dinosaur as a franchise.

    I've watched few of the recent incarnations and I find the same problem with them all. They are bland, anadyne and utterly without any artistic merit - for the most part at least. And it's all so fucking 'happy clappy let's all get along', catering for people who find the real world that little bit too scary, and long for one that rewards honour and integrity etc.

    Essentially, if ever the phrase 'Gh3y' was justifiable in relation to a TV series, I would use it to describe Star Trek.

    I also believe that it has not been any sort of benchmark since the days of TNG and possiblly DS9. Since then TV Sci Fi has diversified and actually developed a sense of humour in some cases. I loved the early Farscape, and every time I catch an episode of Stargate: SG1 I am constantly amazed at the level of effects work now being used.

    This is only the TV series I might add, I am a big fan of movies 1, 2, 4 and 6, and count them among some of my favourite movies.

    Edited by silentbob at 13:20:00 16-12-2005

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  • davyuk 16 Dec 2005 13:30:09 95 posts
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    I didn't bother watching Enterprise the moment I heard that godawful theme song. WTF were they thinking?

    On the plus side, it got me doing un-filtered Google searches for T-Pol ;)
  • Retroid Moderator 16 Dec 2005 13:50:37 45,018 posts
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    davyuk wrote:
    that godawful theme song. WTF were they thinking?
    /Bursts in tears of pain
  • Freek 16 Dec 2005 13:57:55 7,687 posts
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    Acording to Patrick Stewart there's also plans to do another TNG movie after this prequal. Dispite him saying "this is the last one" after every one he's in.

    And the Enterprise theme song actauly came from the end credits for the Patch Adams movie. 0_o
  • Dynamize 16 Dec 2005 14:07:00 1,672 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    Star Trek as a TV offering has become a dinosaur as a franchise.

    I think that simple sentence sums it all up nicely. None of the series post-TNG (perhaps DS9) have brought anything new or fresh. It's the same old po-faced, basic mechanics right down to sticking a pretty woman in tight-fitting clothing.
    Enterprise seems to be doing fanservice, every story arc being along the lines of "look! Here's the Klingons/Andorians/Romulans for the first time!" which is commendable I suppose, but at the same time uninspired, by-the-numbers and a little boring. They even resort to time travel on a regular basis. Perhaps because without it people would notice that the main dish of the series is actually really dull.

    Xerx3s wrote:
    Farscape > Starttrek.
    Never a truer word spoken. In its 4 seasons I think Farscape brought more to the sci-fi table than the past 10 years of Star Trek.

    Edited by Dynamize at 14:07:16 16-12-2005
  • mcmonkeyplc 16 Dec 2005 14:08:22 39,467 posts
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    FUCK YEAH!

    Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • mcmonkeyplc 16 Dec 2005 14:09:26 39,467 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Just.
    Let.
    It.
    DIE!

    Im going to let you die now!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Razz 16 Dec 2005 14:14:44 61,395 posts
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    /sharpens dick

    /stabs

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  • GeorgeZN 16 Dec 2005 14:17:12 4 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    FUCK YEAH!

    Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!Please dont be shit!

    sorry to break it to you but its gonna be shit!!

    Why do they even try; its like beating a dead horse for 10 years and still expecting him to get up!

    Edited by GeorgeZN at 14:18:58 16-12-2005
  • saysomething 16 Dec 2005 14:22:20 1,245 posts
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    Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!Thiswillnotbeshit!

    Edited by saysomething at 14:22:48 16-12-2005
  • tengu 8 May 2007 19:54:54 10,294 posts
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  • mcmonkeyplc 24 Jun 2007 02:29:47 39,467 posts
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    Sooooo it looks like there going the way of BSG. Its more of a Re-imaging than a prequel

    I reiterate the please don't be shit!

    93.21.29.20

    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 02:31:25 24-06-2007

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Raid 24 Jun 2007 03:15:28 980 posts
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    So, if it's not a prequel, then that ought to place it on the original Enterprise, with Kirk, Spock and McCoy all present (I was worried that a Kirk/Spock prequel wouldn't work, as I always felt McCoy was an essential character). His statement on Treknobabble is perhaps worrying too; I don't like how everything can be reconfigured as a sort of deus ex machina. Granted, the films have never really resorted to this, it was always the characters that took centre-stage, rather than the deflector dish firing inverse quantum slipstreaming tachyons.

    It could work very well, but it could also be abysmal. They need to get the actors (and their acting) absolutely spot on. Trying to remake one of the most famous (and probably one of the most widely loved) characters in television history, 40 years later and with a different actor is an almost insurmountable challenge, and one that could really put the nail in the coffin if done wrongly.
  • FairgroundTown 24 Jun 2007 05:26:08 2,522 posts
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    Raid wrote:
    Trying to remake one of the most famous (and probably one of the most widely loved) characters in television history, 40 years later and with a different actor is an almost insurmountable challenge, and one that could really put the nail in the coffin if done wrongly.
    A good point, well made - they could get away with it in the case of BSG only because the original was not ionic/ well-loved/ repeated every year on BBC2.
  • mcmonkeyplc 25 Jun 2007 00:11:15 39,467 posts
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    Raid wrote:
    Trying to remake one of the most famous (and probably one of the most widely loved) characters in television history, 40 years later and with a different actor is an almost insurmountable challenge, and one that could really put the nail in the coffin if done wrongly.

    Damn straight!

    This really could be the end if its shit. Maybe they should wait another 5 - 10 years before messing with this kind of stuff.

    I'm very anxious about the whole affair. Especially seeing as the new BSG ends this season.

    I'll be left with no space based TV action!

    92.23.49.39

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Ocrovastru 25 Jun 2007 00:32:21 610 posts
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    BSG > All and any Star Trek

    /CONTROVERSIAL!

    /apples and oranges really though now I think about it.
  • FWB 25 Jun 2007 00:34:01 44,845 posts
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    What's the ST DS game like?
  • figgis 25 Jun 2007 10:59:19 7,376 posts
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    The only Star Trek worth anything is the original series. Everything else has dated horribly.
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