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  • djchump 31 Oct 2005 16:14:16 4,463 posts
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    pjmaybe wrote:
    Shouldn't laugh. A lot of these suckers (sorry, "stars";) get really royally reamed by the record company, to the extent that very few of 'em actually make any serious money.

    Peej
    lol - the lads in East17 were all on something crap like £120 a week, one said he was getting more money as a builder.
    The one in East17 that wrote the songs (think it was the piano player) made a shitload of ca$h though, didn't share it, which is fair enough :-)
    Still, bet the groupies and free drugs/alcohol was plenty fun so I don't think they can complain really ;-)
  • pjmaybe 31 Oct 2005 16:28:50 70,678 posts
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    Aye - it must be a fun lifestyle for a while, but I wonder how many of 'em just sign the contract without looking at the "opt out of residuals / BRS payments" small print.

    It's actually possible to make more money shoving your stuff out on the net than it would be to sign up with some major label.

    Peej
  • morriss 31 Oct 2005 16:30:18 69,369 posts
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    djchump wrote:
    pjmaybe wrote:
    Shouldn't laugh. A lot of these suckers (sorry, "stars";) get really royally reamed by the record company, to the extent that very few of 'em actually make any serious money.

    Peej
    lol - the lads in East17 were all on something crap like £120 a week, one said he was getting more money as a builder.
    The one in East17 that wrote the songs (think it was the piano player) made a shitload of ca$h though, didn't share it, which is fair enough :-)
    Still, bet the groupies and free drugs/alcohol was plenty fun so I don't think they can complain really ;-)
    Sadly enough East17 are my only claim to fame. I'm a Walthamstow lad...London E.17 :(
  • laur 31 Oct 2005 16:42:44 1,213 posts
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    This seems to suggest that single sales at least are following a downward trend.
    Albums are selling more every year though (until 2003).
  • Angel_Treats 31 Oct 2005 16:46:05 11,072 posts
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    I used to love E17. How sad! Although in my school you *had* to like either Take That or E17 so I didn't have much to choose from ;-)

    Morris btw, you're not too far from us, we live in sunny Clapton. You should get your arse along to a geekmeet, you are local after all :)

    Edited by Angel_Treats at 16:51:51 31-10-2005
  • Angel_Treats 31 Oct 2005 16:49:32 11,072 posts
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    Ace Grace wrote:

    Or conversely, anyone who a a house immaculately clean must also be mentally ill.
    Um. Guilty... most of the time anyway!

    I do get a wee bit obsessive about cleaning from time to time.
  • laur 31 Oct 2005 16:50:04 1,213 posts
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    Anyone with a house not immaculately clean or a total tip is also mentally ill.
  • ssuellid 31 Oct 2005 16:55:03 19,141 posts
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    My kitchen is exceptionally clean when I can be bothered - I have 3 cloths just to clean and polish the hob. But then as soon as you use the hob it looks filthy again - never buy a stainless steel hob.

    /hires cleaner
  • morriss 31 Oct 2005 17:02:34 69,369 posts
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    Angel_Treats wrote:
    I used to love E17. How sad! Although in my school you *had* to like either Take That or E17 so I didn't have much to choose from ;-)

    Morris btw, you're not too far from us, we live in sunny Clapton. You should get your arse along to a geekmeet, you are local after all :)
    ..believe me I'd love to, but after emigrating to Denmark it's not as easy as all that! ;)

    But one day I might just arrange a trip home around one these, they sound great fun.
  • Angel_Treats 31 Oct 2005 17:05:55 11,072 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    My kitchen is exceptionally clean when I can be bothered - I have 3 cloths just to clean and polish the hob. But then as soon as you use the hob it looks filthy again - never buy a stainless steel hob.

    /hires cleaner
    We have a stainless steel microwave and toaster and they hardly ever look clean, despite my best efforts there's always a grubby handprint or two. Now the cats are a bit bigger they can jump onto the kitchen worktops, the last sacred place in the house that was, I dunno how we'll charge up the phones and various handheld consoles. Anyway we'll be trying to train them not to do it but in the meantime I'll be even more obsessively wiping the worktops constantly in case a wee paw touched where I want to put food.

    Morriss: You should do. Get your arse over for the Christmas meet, it'll be great fun.
  • ssuellid 31 Oct 2005 17:08:45 19,141 posts
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    Angel_Treats wrote:
    We have a stainless steel microwave and toaster and they hardly ever look clean, despite my best efforts there's always a grubby handprint or two.
    e cloths are the best so far. You can get them in different grades - a rough ish one for picking up the crap and then a fine one for polishing off.
  • Angel_Treats 31 Oct 2005 17:10:03 11,072 posts
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    E cloths? Is that the brand name?

    Never mind, found them. I think we have some of those lying around, actually!

    Edited by Angel_Treats at 17:15:48 31-10-2005
  • ssuellid 31 Oct 2005 17:13:18 19,141 posts
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    E-cloth great on glass as well. They say no need to use chemicals but they seem to work better with them.
  • deem 31 Oct 2005 17:17:05 31,634 posts
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  • Angel_Treats 3 Dec 2005 23:00:50 11,072 posts
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    Does anyone know who got voted off tonight's show? I missed it :(
  • binky Moderator 3 Dec 2005 23:09:15 8,312 posts
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    Chico.

    *cough* apparently *cough*
  • Angel_Treats 3 Dec 2005 23:30:18 11,072 posts
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    Hehe!

    Thanks mate. It's about time, really. I'll watch a repeat tomorrow on ITV3.
  • ProfessorLesser 3 Dec 2005 23:37:05 19,007 posts
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    Angel_Treats wrote:
    Hehe!

    Thanks mate. It's about time, really. I'll watch a repeat tomorrow on ITV3.
    Chico is the reason I've been watching it. You have to admit, he is good. Even if he can't win (and obviously he shouldn't), he's enjoying himself.

    The rest are now all same old, same old. Brenda and Shane blatantly already have careers in music ahead of them. Andy's will die young, seeing as all he can sing is the ballad, and Journey South will fade into obscurity.

    Great.
  • Boof 4 Dec 2005 00:17:01 418 posts
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    Whatever happened to good old fashioned song writing, living out of a camper van, playing student union bars hoping for a break and living on baked beans?
  • rauper Founder & CEO, Gamer Network 4 Dec 2005 00:24:20 3,272 posts
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    I'm going to the final! la la la :D:D:D
  • binky Moderator 4 Dec 2005 01:04:29 8,312 posts
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    rauper wrote:
    I'm going to the final! la la la :D:D:D
    Gutted ;)
  • kentmonkey 4 Dec 2005 09:51:18 18,593 posts
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    I thought Chico was good, obviously not at singing but he enjoyed himself so much and entertained. Journey South for me, I think they could be good. Is it just me or has Shayne been utter crap apart from that Daniel Beddingfield song? His voice is so soft and he just seems to get the votes due to his looks rather than his talent.

    Brenda's good and I like her but I can't see anything much coming from a music deal there, other than Gloria Gaynor covers.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    zErOb_cOOl wrote:
    doc-yipee wrote:
    Elvis didn't write his own songs or cook his own pies
    Its just the shameful way its all gone about that gets me going. Its like the X Factor show is telling me, and the general public, that this person IS a good artist. But the proof of the pudding is an artist's songs, not their karaoke ability.
    Surely thats proof of a song writers talent? Or is Pavaroti crap for singing other peoples stuff? Why is it TELLING people whats good and what isnt?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    Second album is out today isnt it? \o/

    Still, they gave us Girls Aloud who I'd take over Spice Girls any day of the week.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    I was coming from the "its proof that singers shouldnt just be judged on song writing ability" angle.

    I've no time for X-Factor, but some of the people they have on there do genuinely have good voices. That much you cant take away from them.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    I dont understand where you're coming from to be honest Zero. It makes no pretense about being a serious music show, its all about manufactured pop, pop being short for popular obviously. If it was about putting together a serious, less mainstream, less massmarket group/pop star I'd understand. The people who like XFactor like this kind of music. Its never going to appeal to the more serious music fan since theres not enough of them/us.

    Its not shameful to give someone a chance is it? I'd certainly prefer it to say, Big Brother where absolutly no talent at all is required, and you can outlast your shelflife as a result (eg Jade Goody).
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    a good voice is something you're intially born with. It's not a real sign of talent, it's luck. Of course the voice has to be trained, but even after hours and hours of training my voice wouldn't match those 'naturals'.

    /trolls
    /trolls back
    So Frank Lampard is better than Maradona? :p
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    Dont remember the Japanese(?) driver who bought himself a seat then?
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    Yup. But daddy had paid for him to be allowed to race.
  • Furbs 14 Jun 2007 22:45:51 45,694 posts
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    G4 last year? I hate them, but it was different.

    Dont forget Maradona was a once in a life time player. Pop music isnt, its an industry, like solid but boring scandanvian players or crap talentless english leftfooters. Bands like [insert favourite band here] are your "Maradonas".

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