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  • kalel 3 Mar 2014 15:51:51 86,809 posts
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    Hmmm.

    I was waiting to see Sony's 2014 line up as I was assuming there'd be an update to the W9, and there is (the W95), but as yet no 46" version.

    It could be it's to follow later in the year, as is often the case with smaller TVs, but it is making me wonder if I should just get the W9 while you still can.
  • Blakester 3 Mar 2014 16:02:47 3,593 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Hmmm.

    I was waiting to see Sony's 2014 line up as I was assuming there'd be an update to the W9, and there is (the W95), but as yet no 46" version.

    It could be it's to follow later in the year, as is often the case with smaller TVs, but it is making me wonder if I should just get the W9 while you still can.
    Get the W9!

    Paid full whack for mine last year and didn't regret it even when stores starting knocking hundreds off the retail price.

    Plays lovely with the PS4 too.

    When you can't see the angles on the wall you're in trouble.

  • kalel 3 Mar 2014 16:08:13 86,809 posts
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    It's a nice TV and if I were to get a new one, that would be it.

    But I think in truth I'll probably sit and wait another year now. I really want a full array LED and Sony still haven't filtered that tech down yet.
  • monkman76 3 Mar 2014 16:09:21 4,139 posts
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    @kalel Is that to go alongside the Kuro?

    /envious

    PS when I was thinking of getting that exact model (46") back in January, I got JL to price match at 999 (the code they gave me has since expired unfortunately or I'd let you have it). Don't know how that compares to prices now.
  • kalel 3 Mar 2014 16:13:54 86,809 posts
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    No, it's actually to replace the Kuro.

    My Kuro is nearly eight years old now and I'm definitely starting to see signs of picture degradation. It's still nice enough, but i've got an eye on the next set now.
  • PirateRoberts 23 Mar 2014 11:09:24 275 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    For the difference in price you could get a sound system that would utterly piss on those speakers.
    @kalel

    Sorry about the old quote, I just got back. :)

    I did take the plunge on the TV (KD-5X9) back in January and can confirm that the sound on the TV is unbelievably good from the fluid dynamic speakers, throughout the audio range.

    I've tried many different sources and even sourced friends opinion on the audio, and they seem to agree that the speakers' performance and aesthetics are a great selling point of the X9.

    James Taylor's Mexico track, from his best of album, sounds particular in-the-room amazing(like headphones), from my PS3 when the TV's audio scene option is set to music or compressed audio. If you get the chance, go have a listen to the X9's audio. I think you'd be quite surprised.
  • Short-Round 23 Mar 2014 13:46:37 1,181 posts
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    Viz!

    Must say that after five months living with it, I am cheesed off with the weakish colour gradation and line bleed on the Panny 50GT60. I just didn't have these issues on the PX80, so it's annoying to get it on a set that cost me twice as much. Wish I'd spent a few hundred more on the step-up Panny. It's still an amazing display, but ever so slightly disappointing.
  • monkman76 23 Mar 2014 22:15:20 4,139 posts
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    I've started seeing that thing where you see green tinges when skin tones move quickly on the screen on my GT60. I assume those are phosphor trails?
  • wobbler147 2 Apr 2014 16:03:11 5,138 posts
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    .

    Edited by wobbler147 at 20:41:13 02-04-2014
  • DiddlerDo 2 Apr 2014 20:40:21 1,342 posts
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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BP58C1S/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=home-theater

    Is this any good? My 36 Sammy died last summer and the new flat we're has a shitty 27 thing that doesn't even do 1080p so am hoping to replace it. My concern is that it is mounted to an old and not very trustworthy wall so don't want to risk this thing falling off.
  • bef 12 May 2014 13:30:56 1,627 posts
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    @Blakester @kalel: I bought a 2014 50 inch w8 last week. Supposedly it has some of the same specs as the w9 from last year.

    I'm not tech savvy but coming from a Panasonic 42 plasma (which my 2,5 year old son cracked with his wooden sword), I must admit: the image quality of this w8 is fantastic. Really sharp, great color saturation, blacklevels are even better than my plasma and for gaming it's also lovely (low input lag)

    So I'd say go for the W8 instead because it's relatively cheap: 900 euros....
  • Blakester 12 May 2014 15:32:59 3,593 posts
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    bef wrote:
    @Blakester @kalel: I bought a 2014 50 inch w8 last week. Supposedly it has some of the same specs as the w9 from last year.

    I'm not tech savvy but coming from a Panasonic 42 plasma (which my 2,5 year old son cracked with his wooden sword), I must admit: the image quality of this w8 is fantastic. Really sharp, great color saturation, blacklevels are even better than my plasma and for gaming it's also lovely (low input lag)

    So I'd say go for the W8 instead because it's relatively cheap: 900 euros....
    If it's similar in spec to last year's W9, then 900 euros seems an absolute bargain.

    Still very, very happy with my W9 even though I paid full whack for it. It doesn't have the visual punch of the top of the range Sammy's, but it wipes the floor with them on black-levels and screen uniformity.

    When you can't see the angles on the wall you're in trouble.

  • IMO 13 May 2014 10:09:03 5,624 posts
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    Right, I'm in need of a new TV so some assistance is required. As it's a World Cup year this year, I'm thinking that there may be some good bargains to be had come June/July. Is this likely to be the case. John Lewis are currently doing the W8 and included soundbar for 900 and it's becoming increasingly hard to hold out.
  • bef 13 May 2014 10:48:38 1,627 posts
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    @IMO I'm impressed by the W8. Been watching it for a week now. Never expected to be positive about led as a former plasma fan...
  • Benno 13 May 2014 12:46:53 9,831 posts
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    http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-bravia-kdl50w8-2014-model-led-hd-1080p-3d-smart-tv-50-with-freeview-freesat-1903081
  • IMO 13 May 2014 12:59:19 5,624 posts
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    Benno wrote:
    http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-bravia-kdl50w8-2014-model-led-hd-1080p-3d-smart-tv-50-with-freeview-freesat-1903081


    Yeah, that's done my resolve no good whatsoever.
  • Benno 13 May 2014 13:10:02 9,831 posts
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    Seems like a good deal, go for it :)
  • ecureuil 14 Jun 2014 21:15:42 76,660 posts
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    I think it's about time I got a new TV, my old Samsung is starting to show its age now. Got a budget of around 1000, what's the best I can do?
  • monkman76 14 Jun 2014 22:40:20 4,139 posts
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    Sony W9? Since Panasonic no longer make plasmas.
  • EVO_V 15 Jun 2014 09:05:17 93 posts
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    @ecureuil Samsung PS60F5500 ,can't recommend it enough .3D 60" 1080p plasma for under a grand !

    Review here http://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ps60f5500-plasma-tv-review.9595

    Fantastic telly :)

    Edited by EVO_V at 09:06:25 15-06-2014
  • ecureuil 27 Jun 2014 23:46:29 76,660 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    Sony W9? Since Panasonic no longer make plasmas.
    Went for this in the end - last years model, a 55" W905. I've upgraded from a 40" 500 Samsung LCD from 2009 and the difference is astonishing. It only arrived yesterday so I'm still calibrating it and finding the settings that work best but this is just amazing. Got my amp and speakers arriving sometime next week, can't wait.
  • mal 30 Jun 2014 21:15:21 22,418 posts
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    I've just switched from an old JVC CRT (with underpowered transformer which distorted widescreen stuff) to a Panny LED-backed LCD, and I'm catching up with the weekend's grand prix on it. It's odd, but something about it reminds me of 70's races, which of course is no bad thing on one level, but the colours and motion blur reminds me of old converted video, and blown highlights and general lack of contrast reminds me of old cameras.

    It was a very bright, warm day in Austria which might explain the highlights and lack of blacks, and perhaps it suffers a bit from these circuits' crappy setups. I have noticed motion weirdness versus my old CRT in other programmes, but colours elsewhere seem to have decent contrast and are representative. And now being able to easily see the difference between BUT and BOT (although that's less of a problem this year than last!).

    I wonder, am I just seeing stuff I wouldn't have noticed before, like the highlights blowing the detail, when on SD you wouldn't see the detail anyway, is it just a poorly filmed programme, or should I fiddle with the motion settings to see if I can get it looking less retro?

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • mAc6 30 Jun 2014 21:25:27 549 posts
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    If you have a MOVIE setting in menu, try that for a whike, it will look dim, but it's probably closer to standard/calibration video settings than other (default) image settings in menu.

    If weirdness persists, then its the source: wrong setup filters cameras. Happens a lot especially with bright (sun)light and depth of field focus changes.

    Tried some bright looking videogames on it yet?
  • nickthegun 30 Jun 2014 21:26:04 59,365 posts
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    No, that was a toaster.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    He totally called it

  • mal 30 Jun 2014 21:43:54 22,418 posts
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    Tried movie. It's actually a little brighter than the current settings perhaps, and definitely more blue. I've boosted the blue on the standard settings a little without going overboard and that looks a little less sepia, though the blown highlights seem to be there in the source.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • mAc6 30 Jun 2014 22:50:06 549 posts
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    Could it be you've maybe got some sort of brightness-auto-adjust 'eco' mode on (in settings)? It's when tele has sensor and autoadjusts according to ambient lighting. It can be nice (when those ambient lighting are conditions are steady), but can also be ugly and weird and annoyong when your ambient lightening conditions keep changing, like summersun on cloudy day brightening the room in fluctuating way. And thus making the tv doing the autobrightness adjust, fucking up the picture, especially blacklevels and colours.
  • Bremenacht 30 Jun 2014 23:07:47 17,696 posts
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    Watching SD on a HD set having got used to it on CRT must seem very weird. I'm guessing the size has gone up too. It'll look very poor. Find some native HD material to try, before wondering if the TV has a problem.

    Just switching from one plasma to a more recent, larger plasma had me thinking I was seeing stuff in slight 3D - 3DS style.
  • Armoured_Bear 3 Jul 2014 15:11:04 10,510 posts
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    Samsung has announced it will scrap plasma TVs

    "Samsung is to stop producing plasma televisions (PDP TVs) by 30 November.

    It said falling demand meant it would instead focus on producing curved and ultra-high-definition (UHD) TVs."



    Grrrrrrrr!!!

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  • SeeNoWeevil 3 Jul 2014 15:24:36 54 posts
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    I've banged on about it before but the interpolation free, strobing backlight implementation on Sony's 2014 series (Motionflow Impulse) is the best thing to happen to flatscreen gaming in a long time. It's freaking brilliant, feels like playing on a CRT again. Assuming you can tolerate 60Hz flicker and can supply 60fps content (must build another gaming PC)
  • Psiloc 3 Jul 2014 15:47:59 1,444 posts
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    Bah. Had to replace my living room TV at short notice, could only afford this:

    http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerm/47LN5400+.htm

    I suppose it definitely represents good value for money but the blacks leave a lot to be desired. What's weird is that for the most part the backlight seems to remain fully engaged, aren't direct lit LED TVs meant to be able to adjust the backlight in localised areas for better blacks or am I thinking of something else?

    Edited by Psiloc at 16:32:53 03-07-2014
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