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  • Tomo 30 Dec 2012 18:17:51 14,316 posts
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    Tomo wrote:
    Bump.

    I should probably get a new mouse. My MX510 collects finger poo at an astonishing rate these days, the pads have come off and it's basically an OAP.

    Any recent views on good mice? I don't want to spend more than 40 quid really. I think I'm after a decent gaming mouse, but I don't want it to look like a fucking fist-sized Transformer.
    Oh and wireless would be preferable. Is it still believed that wireless mice are rubbish for gaming? Or is that an old wives' tale?
  • WoodenSpoon 30 Dec 2012 18:27:47 12,332 posts
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    The cheaper wireless mice I've tried have been useless for games, they all felt really imprecise and unreliable.

    The Logitech G700 works fine, and it doesn't look like a spaceship or have an etching of a scorpion or any of the other retarded stuff you see on 'gaming' mice. I have a feeling it's quite pricey though.
  • Tomo 30 Dec 2012 18:29:51 14,316 posts
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    Hmm. 60 quid on Amazon. Still looks like it's about to take off at any minute.

    Razer Orochi is also 60 notes, any experience with that?
  • WoodenSpoon 30 Dec 2012 18:33:58 12,332 posts
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    Nah afraid not :(
  • THFourteen 30 Dec 2012 19:04:24 38,824 posts
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    I have a Razer Orochi which I LOVE. Its not rechargeable, and it doesn't auto-switch off if that sort of thing bothers you, but the two AA batteries last for a good long time, and I use wall-rechargeable types.

    Its quite small compared to most gaming mice, and only has 4 extra side buttons (which I never use anyway).

    I use it with both my laptop and my gaming PC.
  • Tomo 30 Dec 2012 19:52:44 14,316 posts
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    Ack. That is a glowing review. Hmm.

    Tempting. Wireless and a decent gaming mouse. Would be ideal for my laptop too...

    Think I'm about swayed...
  • THFourteen 30 Dec 2012 20:28:00 38,824 posts
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    There are some good reviews on amazon.co.uk actually. both for and against though
  • jagg3r 30 Dec 2012 20:50:48 1,152 posts
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    WoodenSpoon wrote:
    The cheaper wireless mice I've tried have been useless for games, they all felt really imprecise and unreliable.

    The Logitech G700 works fine, and it doesn't look like a spaceship or have an etching of a scorpion or any of the other retarded stuff you see on 'gaming' mice. I have a feeling it's quite pricey though.
    Its a great mouse, been using it for over a year now in games like Bf3 & mw3, lovely comfy fit and easy customise.very precise, quality.
  • Acidizer 30 Sep 2015 12:36:35 1,064 posts
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    What wired mouse are good?

    I have had Roccat Kone x 2. Both failed, seems like cheap shit inside, outside quality was very good though.

    Looked at the Razer stuff, they seem dead cheap looking.

    Amazon search is bogged down with cheap Chinese knock offs.
  • StixxUK 30 Sep 2015 13:03:47 7,626 posts
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    I've been looking at the Corsair Sabre...
  • THFourteen 30 Sep 2015 13:12:18 38,824 posts
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    I bought the Sabre in the end.

    Unfortunately the only games i've played over the last month are Witcher 3 and PES2016 neither of which use the mouse!

    Will find out if its any good when battlefront comes out.
  • monkehhh 30 Sep 2015 13:16:59 4,170 posts
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    Razer Deathadder - big and awesome.
  • Acidizer 30 Sep 2015 13:23:15 1,064 posts
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    Difference between optical and laser?
  • Rivuzu 30 Sep 2015 13:25:06 11,577 posts
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    Had a R.A.T.5 for about ... 5 years now? Still working great. Comfortable as anything. Still, maybe it's time to upgrade.
  • Rusty_M 30 Sep 2015 13:31:16 5,732 posts
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    I moved from a R.A.T.7 to a G502 Proteus Core. Fantastic mouse! RAT just had buttons in the wrong place.
  • THFourteen 30 Sep 2015 13:33:45 38,824 posts
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    Acidizer wrote:
    Difference between optical and laser?
    Go optical. Although the latest laser mice are meant to be fine, with optical you know there won't be any tracking issues.

    http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-mouse-myths-busted/

    Mouse myth: Optical mice are better than laser mice.
    Verdict: True, but it’s more complicated than that. Laser mice actually are optical mice, for starters.

    This is quite possibly the most common argument you’ll see about gaming mice online. Optical mice are better and more accurate than laser mice. Laser mice are garbage! Alas, more and more gaming mice use laser sensors, making optical mice all the more rare and special. So the story goes. But what’s the reality?

    First off, laser sensors and optical sensors are more similar than you may think.

    Chris Pate: “[In a ‘laser’ mouse], it’s actually not a laser sensor. It’s an optical sensor. It just uses a laser for illumination. But people find it easier to shorthand it to optical versus laser, even though it’s really infrared or red LED [for an optical mouse] versus VCSEL (vertical-cavity surface-emitting laser) ... it’s still an LED, but it’s a laser ... All the sensors are taking multiple thousands of pictures per seconds, comparing them to each other, and determining the translation direction and distance based on those images. ”

    Both optical and laser-illuminated mice use CMOS sensors to take pictures of the surface beneath them, and use those pictures to determine movement. It’s a CMOS sensor like the one in your smartphone or digital camera, though the way it works is very different (for one thing, it’s taking thousands of images per second). So if the sensor itself is the same, what makes optical “better” than laser illumination?

    Morier: “The laser light has a different wavelength. It is more looking into the structure of the material than the normal LED light, which is more surface illumination. It makes [the laser] more sensitive to the roughness of the surface....The LED is more staying on the top of the surface, so it’s very reproducible. On the top of the surface you have peaks, and it’s only counting the peaks.
    “If you look at the cloth pads that are made out of a structure of fibers, the laser is so accurate it ... is showing you the nature of the structure. You don’t care about that. You just want to measure a distance ... The laser will really go down into the surface and then, especially at low speed, will behave very differently. This is the reason you have a big difference between low and high speed.”
    Laser-illuminated sensors work extremely well on hard pads, but on soft pads with more surface depth, they’re picking up too much useless information, which leads to discrepancies in how they track at different speeds. This is what most people call “acceleration,” but Morier calls it “resolution error versus speed.” (More on that in a second).

    So how much difference is there between optical and laser-illuminated sensors, ultimately? According to Morier, laser-illuminated sensors have a 5-6 percent variation in tracking at different speeds. For the best optical sensors, that number is below 1 percent.

  • SweetMrGibs 30 Sep 2015 13:37:08 781 posts
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    Mickey was pretty handy in Castle of Illusion. He gets my vote.
  • Sharz 30 Sep 2015 14:18:22 713 posts
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    Anyone buy the Asus stuff at EGX?

    They had some stonking good deals on the Gladius and Claw and the keyboard but I have never used Asus for mice or keyboards. Would be tempted to leave my Logitech staples if the right deal came along.
  • Furtive_Pygmy 30 Sep 2015 14:21:57 3,379 posts
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    Rusty_M wrote:
    I moved from a R.A.T.7 to a G502 Proteus Core. Fantastic mouse! RAT just had buttons in the wrong place.
    Was going to post about the G502, had it around a year now. Easily the best mouse I've ever had.
  • Acidizer 30 Sep 2015 15:13:53 1,064 posts
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    Went with the Corsair Sabre optical.

    Considered the G502, it is the best selling Amazon mouse with good reviews, but it looks ridiculous... like a lot of these 'gaming' mice.
  • Rusty_M 30 Sep 2015 17:25:12 5,732 posts
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    It's more nuts looking in pictures than in person. I don't find it too overstated.
  • Dirtbox Best Forumite, 2015 30 Sep 2015 18:04:39 84,875 posts
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    Oh look, mowgli is still suffering from crippling social anxiety over things no one else can see.
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