What is the Confederations Cup?

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  • kalel 21 Jun 2005 10:43:32 86,239 posts
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    Obviouisly I know what it is, but what the hell are the Confederations when they are at home?
  • marilena 21 Jun 2005 10:45:35 8,198 posts
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    I think the Confederations Cup is an excuse to have footbal matches on TV when the season is over :). It's a good thing, too, because there doesn't seem to be anything else of interest on TV these days.
  • Gretters 21 Jun 2005 10:46:41 2,628 posts
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    UEFA, FIFA, CONCAF etc.
  • kalel 21 Jun 2005 10:47:14 86,239 posts
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    So how do you get to play in it?
  • Fozzie_bear 21 Jun 2005 10:50:54 15,470 posts
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    Isn't it a sort of warm up for the World Cup with the hosts and a few other random teams? Allegedly to test out security etc. Never understood it myself.

    Support the Mowgli Dirty Protest!

  • kalel 21 Jun 2005 10:55:44 86,239 posts
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    Well, it was fun watching Greece get exposed as the luckiest bunch of over achievers of all time. Brazil absolutely mullered them the other day. It was like watching Madrid against Barnet.
  • Gretters 21 Jun 2005 10:57:00 2,628 posts
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    Someone who works for Eurosport.com wrote, quite concisely:
    Eight teams will take part in the 2005 tournament: Germany as hosts, Brazil as World Champions, Tunisia (winners of the 2004 African Nations Cup), Mexico (winners of the 2003 CONCACAF Gold Cup), Japan (winners of the 2004 Asian Cup), Argentina (finalists of the 2004 Copa America, Australia (winners of the 2004 OFC Nations Cup) and Greece (2004 European Champions).

    As Brazil were already qualified as World Champions and won the Copa America, FIFA granted Argentina a place in the competition as the Copa America finalists.

    It's only been going since 1997, although there were two tournaments previously under a different name and format.
  • QuBit 21 Jun 2005 10:57:48 51 posts
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    Even Japan won from Greece :/
  • marilena 21 Jun 2005 11:02:04 8,198 posts
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    The teams aren't randomly chosen, they are chosen because they have won something: the World Cup (Brazil), the European Cup (Greece), the Asian Cup (Japan) etc. Mexico apparently won something called the Golden Cup (???) and Germany is in it as the organizing country's team.

    Edit: Gretters knows better :).

    Edited by marilena at 11:02:05 21-06-2005
  • Kay 21 Jun 2005 11:03:27 17,756 posts
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    What was the Brazil-Greece score? And when's the final?
  • marilena 21 Jun 2005 11:04:19 8,198 posts
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    It was 3-0. I don't know abou the final.
  • kalel 21 Jun 2005 11:10:23 86,239 posts
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    3-0, but Brazil were playing at a trot. They were a totally different class.

    Watching that game I realised just how lucky Greece were. Seriously, I'm pretty sure the German Women's team could beat them.
  • Ecanem 26 Jun 2005 16:07:48 5,035 posts
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    Is nobody really following this?

    I think its been a great tournament so far.. all teams taking it seriously and some wonderful goals.. if this is a sign of things to come in the next WorldCup it bodes well.. (Greece the only team to really have been outplayed so far)..

    In an hour Argentina take on Mexico, who beat Argentina 1-0 last time the two teams met, and a finale of Brazil v Mexico/Argentina should be great! (Mexico beat brazil by a goal earlier in the tournament, and Argentina beat Brazil 3-1 in their last meeting in the WC qualifiers)

    So glad the Germans lost out.. playing their "physical" style of football against Brazil didn't really pay off for once. I'm digusted by the arrogance, dirty play, playacting/diving of Ballack.. somebody should really kick his arse good soon.. yet the media hails him as someone playing with a great desire...=/

    Edited by Ecanem at 16:08:08 26-06-2005
  • Gretters 26 Jun 2005 16:40:51 2,628 posts
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  • unwashed! 26 Jun 2005 18:30:45 272 posts
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    I can seriously see Germany crashing out at the group stage next year. They struggled in the European Championships and they had qualified for that. The confederations cup games are the only competitive matches they'll play before the world-cup, and I doubt they'll get much of an improvement with a few friendlies...
  • Ecanem 26 Jun 2005 20:20:45 5,035 posts
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    Tonights game was a bit dissappointing as both teams didn't take enough chances and only when Mexico got a flukish goal did Argentina really pull themselves together to pile on the pressure..

    But I guess it was a typical semfinal with much at stake..

    Brazil v Argentina should be great, as both teams have won 3-1 and lost 3-1 to eachother in the WC qualifiers.

    Oh, and "nice tackle" by Coloccini... ouch!
  • Boundy 27 Jun 2005 07:24:46 959 posts
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    When is the final?

    Is it on TV?
  • squaylor 27 Jun 2005 07:43:55 3,737 posts
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    I'll tell you what the Confederations Cup is to Australia - it's their World Cup. It's been given plenty of publicity over here as a major stage for the 'Socceroos' to have a crack at some proper competiton. Of course, they got nailed in every game, but this is Australian football through and through - lots of talk, very little skill. I mean, independently the Aussies are skilful (most of them), but they can't ever seem to cut it as a team. Not that most people here care, it's all about the rugby/cricket/AFL. Australia's (quite frankly) shocking decision to leave Oceania and join the Asian World Cup qualifying zone will give them more experience of playing better teams (better than NZ and the Solomon Islands at any rate), but will give them even more qualifying spots to miss out on as they fail to stop the goals rolling in. But we'll see.
  • Deleted user 27 June 2005 08:54:36
    The final is on Wednesday, I think. I really liked Germany's aggresive football, unfortunately they couldn't last it for 90 minutes and lost. I sort of wanted Mexico to win yesterday and predicted one of the big names in Argentina would miss a penalty, Sorin or Riquelme.

    Quite a revenge for the Argentinian guy who missed a clear open goal chance and then equalized 10 minutes later. Good drama.
  • marilena 27 Jun 2005 09:04:25 8,198 posts
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    Both semi-finals were poor. Germany and Brazil looked stunned by the heat, while Mexico and Argentina prefered to kick each other instead of the ball. Some good moments in every match - Adriano's second goal, for instance - but overall I found them quite boring. There were times when I just switched channels - it felt like nothing was happening. The fact that Argentina scored in ten minutes when they really had to is very telling about how commited they were for most of the game (not at all).

    And yeah, Ballack was a disgrace, that was a dive if there ever was one. But the most shocking performance must be Huth's, he wasn't just bad around the ball, but also acted very stupidly, pushing Adriano inside the penality area when there was no danger at all. I mean, sure, Adriano is good, but even he couldn't have done something from that angle.

    Edited by marilena at 09:04:27 27-06-2005
  • localnotail 13 Jun 2009 12:29:57 23,093 posts
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    anyone missing their football at the moment? Allegedly full strength teams from Brazil, Argentina and Spain can be seem playing live for the next two weeks in the Confederations Cup and every game will be streamed live on the BBC Sport website and either on the Red Button or BBC Three.

    These are the games -

    Group A:
    South Africa v Iraq (14 June, 1500 BST)
    New Zealand v Spain (14 June, 1930 BST)
    Spain v Iraq (17 June, 1500 BST)
    South Africa v New Zealand (17 June, 1930 BST)
    Iraq v New Zealand (20 June, 1930 BST)
    Spain v South Africa (20 June, 1930 BST)

    Group B:
    Brazil v Egypt (15 June, 1500 BST)
    USA v Italy (15 June, 1930 BST)
    USA v Brazil (18 June, 1500 BST)
    Egypt v Italy (18 June, 1930 BST)
    Italy v Brazil (21 June, 1930 BST)
    Egypt v USA (21 June, 1930 BST)

    Semi-finals:
    Winner Group A v Runner-up Group B (24 June, 1930 BST)
    Winner Group B v Runner-up Group A (25 June, 1930 BST)

    Third-placed play-off:
    Royal Bafokeng Stadium, Rustenburg (28 June, 1400 BST)

    Confederations Cup final:
    Ellis Park, Johannesburg (28 June, 1930 BST)

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • lucky_jim 13 Jun 2009 13:44:33 5,252 posts
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    Ooh I didn't realise they were all on the beeb, great stuff. Although Spain seem to have effectively been given a bye to the semis with that group. I wouldn't be surprised if they hit double figures against Iraq or NZ.
  • faux_carnation 13 Jun 2009 13:45:39 9,037 posts
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    Is there a "fantasy" competition related to this?

    If not, there really is no point.
  • ilmaestro 13 Jun 2009 13:47:06 32,406 posts
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    localnotail wrote:
    anyone missing their football at the moment?
    Must have watched five or six World Cup qualifiers in the last week or so... so no?

    4235

  • localnotail 13 Jun 2009 13:55:44 23,093 posts
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    ilmaestro wrote:
    localnotail wrote:
    anyone missing their football at the moment?
    Must have watched five or six World Cup qualifiers in the last week or so... so no?

    I'm not sure some those matches counted as football. Certainly not the last English one.

    Anyway, that was last week.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • THFourteen 13 Jun 2009 13:57:48 32,853 posts
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    localnotail wrote:
    anyone missing their football at the moment?
    no not really

    ignoring football for a couple of months.
  • dnbuk 14 Jun 2009 16:38:30 4,941 posts
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    I hope Iraq play the USA.
  • dnbuk 14 Jun 2009 16:42:19 4,941 posts
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    Watching it on the red button here, picture quality is fine.
  • PES_Fanboy 14 Jun 2009 16:49:03 13,296 posts
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    Summer is for golf and basketball, that's why footy stops.
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