Quick Pc question on Hd and Memory.

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  • terrymartin 6 Oct 2017 13:15:02 28 posts
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    New Pc build, the Solid State drive, is for installing games or operating system ? I see all new systems come with a terabyte or more regular HD and something around 150-250 gig SSD.
    And ddr 4 system Ram, is 16gig plenty for newest games now ?
    Thank You !
    I know bye the SSD is faster assumingly like using ram, would think games are installed to it for best performance.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 6 Oct 2017 13:19:27 6,552 posts
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    OS on SSD, games on HDD. You will get better performance having games on SSD, but you would run out of space fast.
  • crashVoodoo 6 Oct 2017 13:19:29 5,460 posts
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    @terrymartin go here http://www.eurogamer.net/forum/thread/244460
  • THFourteen 6 Oct 2017 13:19:40 45,794 posts
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    Depending on your budget, try and go for 250gb SSD, some games like Doom take 50gb+ now.

    You can install games and store videos / music on your HDD if you want, it'll be slow playing games off there though.

    16gb RAM is plenty.
  • terrymartin 6 Oct 2017 13:21:55 28 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh I can see that for sure, thanks.
  • Spectral 6 Oct 2017 13:22:12 5,641 posts
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    The most important thing to put on the SSD is the operating system and all your standard smaller programs such as web browsers,etc. It makes everything load much faster, especially PC start up. For games it is less important, it will improve load times of games installed to it but it wont add any performance boost.

    Edited by Spectral at 13:23:19 06-10-2017
  • terrymartin 6 Oct 2017 13:24:01 28 posts
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    @THFourteen thanks ! I thought it probably was based on seeing the stats on you tube Pc games being played. Suppose I could always get 16 more later if the need ever was there.
  • terrymartin 6 Oct 2017 13:31:38 28 posts
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    @crashVoodoo thanks, I posted a while back about getting a 7700k with a 1080ti, but was undecided as Sys ram and hd. Now thatís cleared up I am ready I think. Retire this PS4-pro haha. I will keep it around for last of us 2, but thatís about it.
  • crashVoodoo 6 Oct 2017 13:39:20 5,460 posts
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    @terrymartin I decided against buying a pro and went all in on pc. Sold off the crap bits and bought a 980ti, Samsung SSD and 4 meter HDMI and usb cables.

    I can now game at the pc desk or on the main TV. Sold off all my ps4 games and jumped in on steam key sales.
  • Spectral 6 Oct 2017 13:39:58 5,641 posts
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    terrymartin wrote:
    @crashVoodoo thanks, I posted a while back about getting a 7700k with a 1080ti, but was undecided as Sys ram and hd. Now thatís cleared up I am ready I think. Retire this PS4-pro haha. I will keep it around for last of us 2, but thatís about it.
    If you don't already have that 7700K or motherboard you might want to hold off a bit. The new 8700K has just launched and according to reviews is a significant step up.

    Edited by Spectral at 13:41:07 06-10-2017
  • THFourteen 6 Oct 2017 13:54:17 45,794 posts
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    Spectral wrote: it will improve load times of games installed to it but it wont add any performance boost.
    Load times are PAINFUL if you're used to SSD.
  • terrymartin 6 Oct 2017 13:54:59 28 posts
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    @crashVoodoo seeing how the Pro didnít aim for 60fps over higher picture quality and I wished I had waited while to see how many games did target 60fps with patches. Among the ones I hoped would jump to 60fps but instead did some type of 4k 30 where.... Fallout4, Witcher 3, Warthunder, Watchdogs 2, Dishonored 2, Destiny 2, division, and Wildlands ghost recon. Which all look amazing on Pc at 4k 60.
  • Spectral 6 Oct 2017 13:56:49 5,641 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Spectral wrote: it will improve load times of games installed to it but it wont add any performance boost.
    Load times are PAINFUL if you're used to SSD.
    True but unless you are playing only indies some games are going to have to not be on the SSD.Even a 1TB drive can fill up fast these days. Besides he's coming from PS4, he wont be able to tell. It could be worth looking at hybrid drives instead of a normal HDD for storage though, something like a firecuda.

    The OS not being on the SSD is far far more painful.

    Edited by Spectral at 13:58:30 06-10-2017
  • THFourteen 6 Oct 2017 13:58:07 45,794 posts
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    @Spectral

    Ah I donít tend to have more than five or six games installed at once. The more I install the less I play.

    They all go on my SSD.
  • Spectral 6 Oct 2017 13:59:47 5,641 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    @Spectral

    Ah I donít tend to have more than five or six games installed at once. The more I install the less I play.

    They all go on my SSD.
    Me too actually but with the way game sizes are going those 5 or 6 are going to soon be 2 or 3.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 6 Oct 2017 14:11:03 1,666 posts
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    I aim for everything on SSD these days. Planning to buy a new Crucial 2TB when I get back to the UK next week, as my current pair of 1TBs are starting to look a bit pathetic faced with modern install sizes.

    If you do run games from mechanical drives, just be aware there are huge differences between the best and worst models, in gaming terms. It's not just RPM - seek speeds are particularly critical. Try gaming from a mechanical drive intended for use as a backup drive or media storage and you will find you get all kinds of stutter in-game as the drive heads crawl around trying to load assets as the game needed them.

    Remember seeing a friend's PC when he'd installed Borderlands 2 on a large but really slow mechanical drive. Every time he switched to a new weapon, the game would freeze for half a second when he first fired it, as the game loaded in the sound effect.
  • crashVoodoo 6 Oct 2017 15:19:09 5,460 posts
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    I have 6tb of mechanical storage. 3 for the games and the other 3 is set as the capture drive at the moment. Only recently started using the pc for gaming properly.

    If I'm going to be playing a game for a bit I shuffle it over to the steam library on the SSD and then move it back when I'm done or have moved into something else.
  • neilka 6 Oct 2017 15:23:29 20,455 posts
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    Go for a terrybyte to fit all your terryflops and terryfolds.
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