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  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 13 May 2017 15:05:48 46,514 posts
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    @KD I assume you tried cleaning the lens and all that? I wouldn't throw it away, but then I do have a small stack of broken consoles that I'm slowly working my way through and repairing.
  • KD 13 May 2017 15:13:11 1,337 posts
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    It wont be thrown away but with the price of a replacement it be rude not to get a working one asap, read a bit into it and tried the easy fixes but no luck, was up til 3 am messing about with it tbh.
  • StrayBezza 13 May 2017 17:28:09 809 posts
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    Help needed please - want to buy a retro gaming thingy - looked at the Raspberry Pi ones - is this any good do you good people think

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292110595111
  • Rusty_M 13 May 2017 17:50:25 6,617 posts
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    @StrayBezza looks a bit pricy. I'd go for the pi assuming you have a computer.
  • mal 13 May 2017 17:54:59 27,559 posts
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    Looks to me like you get a fair bit of kit for the price, even if those controllers are knock-offs. From what I can tell if you want to play emulated games, a kodi install isn't the way to go at present.

    I don't think it's an RPi in there, unless the RPi3 can do 4K TV and I've not noticed. 48GB of storage is weird too - that's 32GB plud 16GB presumably. Maybe it's got a 16GB uSD card in the board and a 32GB something hanging off USB. I wouldn't expect it to be an actual RPi if it doesn't say it is though, which means less support when things go awry in general.
  • StrayBezza 13 May 2017 18:01:14 809 posts
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    @Rusty_M

    I do have a laptop.

    What about this?

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-retro-gaming-bundle?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=28361194705&gclid=CPyH0pas7dMCFYwK0wodzcQD3A
  • Psiloc 13 May 2017 18:30:59 3,679 posts
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    @StrayBezza That's not a bad price to include everything you need to get started. Controllers are probably cheap, but you get what you pay for.
  • Psiloc 13 May 2017 18:32:15 3,679 posts
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    @KD Saturn has one of those lens adjustment thingys if you take it apart. Look on YouTube, I've had to do it to mine before.

    By all accounts though it does signal the beginning of the end for the console :(
  • KD 13 May 2017 18:57:16 1,337 posts
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    I had it open and the lens was still dim after adjusting, what I did see was a full lens/drive replacement option but I thought I'd buy another MK1 console to use now and build up my spares.

    Played some Powerstone and F355 Challenge on the dc afterwards so not all time wasted last night.

    Edited by KD at 18:58:20 13-05-2017
  • mal 13 May 2017 19:17:39 27,559 posts
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    StrayBezza wrote:
    What about this?

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-retro-gaming-bundle?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=28361194705&gclid=CPyH0pas7dMCFYwK0wodzcQD3A
    As Psiloc says, the d-pads on those controller might not be tip-top, but then a PS3 d-pad isn't all that great for controlling a few 2d games either, so you're switching out a known bad for an unknown bad there. Meanwhile the description being more explicit about exactly what you're getting sounds preferable to me. Should get you started, and you'll probably end up with a small collection of USB and wireless controllers down the line in either case, so even if those controllers are a bit primitive you can reserve one for when your mates come round.
  • Ryze 13 May 2017 20:10:34 3,534 posts
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    geeza2020 wrote:
    Kinda retro gaming related... I heard this song earlier while browsing YouTube and my jaw hit the floor. It's so... so.... amazingly Sega.

    https://youtu.be/oTQIiIKummw

    I honestly can't stop listening to it. I know the snes technically had better sounds but they had some talented composers on segas side during that era.
    Yep, you just brought me back to 1993 when I picked up Thunderforce IV based on 'Mega' magazine's review roundup in the back.

    I was blown away by the game. Spend the time and really get into it, if you're a shmup fan who's not really tried the Mega Drive version. Really shows, alongside games like Streets of Rage II, Road Rash II, Micro Machines II and Sonic 2/3/& Knuckles, what the Mega Drive craze was really about in terms of a gameplay, graphics and audio experience.

    It's a beautiful game. Absolutely loved it back in the day.

    edit:

    Just to mention - if anyone's 'new' to 16-bit retro, and is starting a collection involving old consoles and a CRT or emulators or whatever, it's my recommendation that you absolutely include a decent speaker system with good bass when playing SNES & Mega Drive games. I'll include the Saturn here as well, as it had a fantastic sound chip for games that didn't simply use CD audio tracks.

    RGB SCART and a decent Trinitron-esque set is also a massive boost to image quality for these systems versus composite and RF. Screen size isn't especially important unless you're playing multiplayer or socially.

    Some of my best memories of these games from the first half of the 90s, is the music and sound effects, and playing them with a stereo line out connected to a decent system was transformative when compared to basic (crap) TV speakers.

    Do yourself a favour if you haven't already, and sort out your audio. I actually want an original model Mega Drive for this purpose, as the audio output from my multi-mega is pretty noisy.

    Any electrical bods in here know much about earth noise in electronics, and how to get rid?

    Edited by Ryze at 20:24:22 13-05-2017
  • Ryze 13 May 2017 20:56:00 3,534 posts
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  • Ryze 13 May 2017 21:00:06 3,534 posts
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    Last one, I promise:

  • mal 13 May 2017 22:32:18 27,559 posts
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    By earth noise I take it you don't mean noise coming in on the earth pin of your plugs and affecting anything analogue. Because anything wired properly shouldn't be using the earth pin to provide a reference.

    As far as I've read, nobody's managed to make later model mega drives sound any good. You could pass it through a filter but you'd lose some of the signal doing that.
  • ghostgate2001 13 May 2017 22:33:51 550 posts
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    @KD Some canny purchasing of "dead" consoles can net you the parts you need more cheaply than buying the part itself or a fully-working console.

    For example, a replacement Colecovision power supply can cost a pretty penny on its own but I got one very cheaply by buying a dead Colecovision that happened to have a working power supply, and another fried one for its mint-condition case, etc.

    The only real downside of my Colecovision-cannibalising activities has been that I've ended up owning 3 copies of Smurf :(
  • geeza2020 13 May 2017 22:42:37 2,387 posts
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    I don't know if this will help you guys talking about better quality mega drive sound:

    http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?31989-Take-your-Genesis-audio-to-the-next-level-The-Mega-Amp-2-0-is-here!

    It's a mod chip.
  • reggy72 13 May 2017 22:47:53 607 posts
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    @Psiloc

    I bought from the same seller for a friend last year whom did not want an eBay account, Raspberry pi.3 with two DS3's wasn't expecting much but as far as I could tell the supplied DS3's were genuine and it worked out of the box.
  • Timmy 13 May 2017 22:54:29 9,072 posts
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    I replay the Fire Emblem GBA games every now and then. Sacred Stones being my favourite, due to the dual promotion choices.

    I'm also replaying Fire Emblem Path of Radiance on GameCube at the minute.

    I'm thinking about downloading an iso of Valkyria Chronicles 3 on PSP. It has received a fan made English language patch. Meant to be good.
  • mal 13 May 2017 23:31:46 27,559 posts
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    That looks interesting, thanks.

    It's not a modchip in the traditional sense. While a couple of the components will be in plastic packaging, they're strictly analogue parts. There's nothing digital about it. As the name suggests it's strictly a transistor amp.

    I don't know if the amplifier parts are what's up with the later model MDs, but if so this could make things a lot sweeter sounding.

    Edit: The above is @geeza

    Sacred Stones was my first Fire Emblem, and I've played through that every time I get a new emulator, starting with my original GBA, then my phat DS, then my DS lite, then my PC, then my Pandora.

    Edited by mal at 23:47:50 13-05-2017
  • geeza2020 14 May 2017 00:17:04 2,387 posts
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    @mal I've bought one and its currently being fitted for me (as I've no idea how to do it myself). Hopefully it'll do the job!
  • mal 14 May 2017 03:54:02 27,559 posts
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    @geeza2020 Nice. Have you gone for filtered or unfiltered output?

    Edited by mal at 03:54:23 14-05-2017
  • Rusty_M 14 May 2017 08:46:18 6,617 posts
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    @StrayBezza that kit looks very similar to what I pieced together for myself. I paid 5 less, but got no HDMI or power supply, opting to use some I already had.

    Looks like decent value, as long as the SD card is good.
  • StrayBezza 14 May 2017 09:39:07 809 posts
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    @Rusty_M

    Which one? The RPi 3 one?

    Did you put Kodi on yours?

    How do you check/know the SD card is good?

    Also how easy is it to buy and add/use a 32gb SD card?

    Edited by StrayBezza at 09:40:11 14-05-2017
  • Rusty_M 14 May 2017 11:06:50 6,617 posts
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    @StrayBezza I don't have Kodi on mine. Just RetroPie. I went for a fast card by a known make, but chances are you'll not notice a difference with the one included there. Buying and adding an SD card is as easy as searching on Amazon or somewhere equivalent for a micro SD card.

    I did make the mistake of trying to start it up before putting any OS on it, though.
  • Psiloc 14 May 2017 14:13:47 3,679 posts
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    I remember looking into the version 1 Mega Amp thing but being put off by one thing or another. Probably because I run my retro games through simple PC speakers so would barely notice any difference.

    One of the better upgrades MD-wise is to source a model 1 that has the "high definition graphics" text on it. Ironically, this text indicates it's got a superior sound processor.
  • Psiloc 14 May 2017 14:17:23 3,679 posts
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    Also regarding all the controller talk in here, you could do a lot, lot worse than the wireless 8-bitDo ones. If you get the SNES model it's practically tailor made for RetroPie.
  • geeza2020 14 May 2017 15:46:11 2,387 posts
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    @mal unfiltered.I don't really know if that's good or bad to be honest, I don't know a huge amount about it. Reading the thread I linked to made my head hurt! I'm just hoping to get to listen to better quality tunes in thunder force 4, contra hard corps, and sonic 1-3 :)
  • StrayBezza 14 May 2017 15:47:57 809 posts
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    Can I get some more advice!!?

    Can get this for 115 good deal or not?!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322515893067
  • mrpon 14 May 2017 15:58:17 33,013 posts
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    Depends what you have lying around already Bez? I had a few micro-SDs, loadsa USB cables, a wireless keyboard, numerous game controllers, loads of ROMS, HDMI cables etc..

    So I just bought a 30-ish Pi and 6 case and did the rest myself. Depends if you're a tinkerer though, not for the faint hearted if it goes wrong!
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