Donald Trump, first orange US President Page 654

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  • Your-Mother 18 May 2017 16:55:28 565 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    I have no idea what has to happen for there to be another election under the US system.
    To the best of my knowledge, an election cannot happen until the designated time, they can't just call one like in the UK. There's a specific line of succession some twenty odd people deep, so it just keeps going down the line.
  • Dougs 18 May 2017 16:57:26 83,100 posts
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    You've been watching Designated Survivor...
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 17:01:12 7,129 posts
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    This is where we find out that Pence is the real devil incarnate and Trump was just a fall guy. The republican Sith lords' plan has come into fruition.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 17:04:14 4,524 posts
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    I guess it would depend what the Russia investigation found but it'll either be Pence, or if he's implicated, Paul Ryan.

    Edited by reviewer at 17:04:48 18-05-2017
  • Duffking 18 May 2017 17:04:27 14,604 posts
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    Reports are that Michael Flynn will not honour his subpoena from Congress. Which is obviously illegal, suggesting that he thinks he'll get less jail time for that than he will for whatever shit they have on him.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 17:26:04 4,524 posts
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    Or that there's something bad enough that it's better for him to keep quiet than say what he knows.
  • challenge_hanukkah 18 May 2017 17:29:53 4,910 posts
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    He was the hooker that widdled on Trump.

    Edited by challenge_hanukkah at 17:30:05 18-05-2017
  • spindizzy 18 May 2017 19:58:15 7,617 posts
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    reviewer wrote:
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    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
    He's doing enough dodgy stuff, there's no need to get silly about it though.
    Actually deleting presidential information allegedly IS a crime (it has to be kept for posterity) but the one person who can declare it legal is ... the president. So it's probably not illegal if he's the one doing it, or so i read. Americans are really finding out how much of what they thought were rules are actually just convention. It's genuinely terrifying how much power the president has...

    Edited by spindizzy at 19:58:29 18-05-2017
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 20:31:44 4,524 posts
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    Obama put a system in place to automatically archive tweets so that may still be in place.

    Honestly though, if that's what gets him given everything he's done then it's pretty pathetic.
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 20:55:59 71,317 posts
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    I suppose its like getting Al Capone for tax avoision.
  • Armoured_Bear 18 May 2017 21:05:30 20,169 posts
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-iran-iraq-kurdish-population-shia-muslims-a7742276.html
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 21:26:52 7,129 posts
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    He tweets from his personal account though
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 22:05:35 71,317 posts
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    They still count as a matter of presidential record.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 22:13:23 4,524 posts
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/02/08/is-it-legal-for-donald-trump-to-delete-tweets-as-president/

    And he was sent an official letter by the house oversight committee warning him about it a few months ago.

    In short he can delete them if he wants as long as they're being archived somewhere.

    Edited by reviewer at 22:15:28 18-05-2017
  • RelaxedMikki 18 May 2017 23:13:53 2,044 posts
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    I would be really surprised if Twitter actually permanently delete Tweets from their own servers?

    Surely 'deleted' tweets are just flagged as deleted, hidden from view, and the records kept?
  • Rodney 18 May 2017 23:35:55 3,211 posts
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    And if there's one person whose tweets they are making sure to archive, it'll be Trumps. Twitter being the dirty partisan liberals that they are.
  • Dirtbox 18 May 2017 23:38:49 89,096 posts
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  • Mola_Ram 18 May 2017 23:41:28 15,948 posts
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    Yeah, deleted tweets are still findable. But if the US government recordkeeping act is similar to what it is in other countries, they should have copies of everything in a dedicated archive, not just relying on Twitter to keep it.

    And if they're doing it properly, the data would be captured either immediately after posting, or very soon afterwards. So it doesn't matter if he deletes them.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 23:53:51 18-05-2017
  • LionheartDJH 19 May 2017 00:00:35 19,765 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    A study into how the Republicans allowed this palpably unsuitable candidate into this position would be interesting.
    I think they knew what they were doing and figured he was their best chance of winning election, and that also he would screw up fairly quickly due to his political inexperience, general foolishness and ego. At which point he could be replaced by a more moderate underling, having served his purpose.

    Probably also a testing bed for some of the more extreme policies some in the GOP would like to implement.
  • Duffking 19 May 2017 00:03:23 14,604 posts
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    I think they just thought they control him as he didn't seem interested in the actual being president part of being president. Figured they'd just do whatever they wanted and let Trump take the credit a bit to massage his ego.
  • RelaxedMikki 19 May 2017 00:13:43 2,044 posts
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    Once they stopped treating him as a joke, the Republicans tried their best to stop Trump.

    But too many candidates stayed in the running too long and kept splitting the non-Trump vote.

    By the time it was just Trump vs The Zodiac Killer, Trump had already built up too much momentum.

    It was a fu#k up.

    Edited by RelaxedMikki at 00:14:10 19-05-2017
  • IMO 19 May 2017 00:22:36 6,593 posts
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    RelaxedMikki wrote:
    It was a fu#k up.
    Understatement of the century there.
  • Tuffty 19 May 2017 00:22:41 3,939 posts
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    They're only realising Trump cares about one thing. Himself. He'll say whatever it takes to defend himself, even if it goes against the party line or fucks someone else over. Happened too many times already. People's hopes that Trump's cabinet would reign him in haven't happened, he's unhinged. But then, most Republican's won't go against him for fear of any backlash from his supporters and lose future votes so they're stuck between a rock and a hard place having to swallow their pride when having to defend Trump. It's pretty funny.
  • Rodney 19 May 2017 01:18:56 3,211 posts
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    Enough of his tweets have been reposted on here - maybe Eurogamer could be admissible evidence?
  • Rodney 19 May 2017 01:31:24 3,211 posts
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    @Tuffty

    If senior Republicans are implicated in the Russia stuff, they may also be worried about what Trump will say if they turn against him.

    Having said that, I suspect Trump may genuinely not have known about any active collusion with Russia. It was those around him and he really was their useful idiot. Only they under-estimated how much of an idiot he actually is.

    I was involved in a conspiracy then I can't think of a bigger liability than Trump also being knowingly involved.

    Edited by Rodney at 02:14:34 19-05-2017
  • Tonka 19 May 2017 05:51:46 26,037 posts
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    Rodney wrote:
    It was those around him and he really was their useful idiot. Only they under-estimated how much of an idiot he actually is.
    This. That clip when the Russian ambassador is told about Trump firing Comey says it all.
  • Skirlasvoud 19 May 2017 13:35:02 2,611 posts
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    Rodney wrote:
    I was involved in a conspiracy then I can't think of a bigger liability than Trump also being knowingly involved.
    Pretty much the reason why I don't expect Trump to be the pawn of any greater, more intelligent evil.

    Nobody is desperate or stupid enough to make Trump part of their creation of a coherent master plan.

    At most, Putin has enabled Trump to create chaos, which the guy excels at.

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 13:38:01 19-05-2017
  • ubergine 19 May 2017 15:56:15 7,347 posts
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    Trump weakens the US.
  • Skirlasvoud 19 May 2017 16:20:48 2,611 posts
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    ubergine wrote:
    Trump weakens the US.
    Think we've already come to that understanding. Good of you to join us.

    Chaos is is unhelpful anywhere.
  • specialgamer 19 May 2017 16:28:05 674 posts
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    Anthony Bourdain will not have dinner with Donald Trump because US President likes his steak well-done :D
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