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  • twelveways 18 May 2017 15:56:01 7,088 posts
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    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
  • challenge_hanukkah 18 May 2017 15:57:16 4,229 posts
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    Not as illegal as that referendum.
  • dankcushions 18 May 2017 15:59:45 224 posts
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    say what you want about trump, but his term is, by some margin, the funniest yet.

    take away the threats to muslims and humanity in general, and i'd be all for it continuing indefinitely as some sort of 'breaking news' art installation.
  • RichieTenenbaum 18 May 2017 16:06:38 2,618 posts
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    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
  • thelzdking 18 May 2017 16:10:05 5,399 posts
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    I'd love it if The KLF were behind the entire Trump presidency and it's just a big promotional stunt for a new version of America: What Time is Love?
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 16:34:02 4,258 posts
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    RichieTenenbaum wrote:
    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
    He's doing enough dodgy stuff, there's no need to get silly about it though.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 16:43:01 4,258 posts
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    Uh oh

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-republican-amash-first-to-say-possible-a7741796.html

    If he was impeached does the VP take over? I assumed not because they ran together but I have no idea.
  • thelzdking 18 May 2017 16:48:55 5,399 posts
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    Yep, VP becomes POTUS. I have no idea what has to happen for there to be another election under the US system.

    Edited by thelzdking at 16:49:08 18-05-2017
  • matrim83 18 May 2017 16:53:33 5,658 posts
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    Like fucking clockwork

    His people put out a well measured (as can be) response to a shit situation. Trump then 12 hours later fucks it up on the twitter.

    WH - We welcome a special prosecutor.
    Trump - Waaaah they assigned a special prosecutor.

    What a fucking idiot.
  • Your-Mother 18 May 2017 16:55:28 54 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    I have no idea what has to happen for there to be another election under the US system.
    To the best of my knowledge, an election cannot happen until the designated time, they can't just call one like in the UK. There's a specific line of succession some twenty odd people deep, so it just keeps going down the line.
  • Dougs 18 May 2017 16:57:26 81,709 posts
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    You've been watching Designated Survivor...
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 17:01:12 7,088 posts
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    This is where we find out that Pence is the real devil incarnate and Trump was just a fall guy. The republican Sith lords' plan has come into fruition.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 17:04:14 4,258 posts
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    I guess it would depend what the Russia investigation found but it'll either be Pence, or if he's implicated, Paul Ryan.

    Edited by reviewer at 17:04:48 18-05-2017
  • Duffking 18 May 2017 17:04:27 13,583 posts
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    Reports are that Michael Flynn will not honour his subpoena from Congress. Which is obviously illegal, suggesting that he thinks he'll get less jail time for that than he will for whatever shit they have on him.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 17:26:04 4,258 posts
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    Or that there's something bad enough that it's better for him to keep quiet than say what he knows.
  • challenge_hanukkah 18 May 2017 17:29:53 4,229 posts
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    He was the hooker that widdled on Trump.

    Edited by challenge_hanukkah at 17:30:05 18-05-2017
  • spindizzy 18 May 2017 19:58:15 7,500 posts
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    reviewer wrote:
    RichieTenenbaum wrote:
    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
    He's doing enough dodgy stuff, there's no need to get silly about it though.
    Actually deleting presidential information allegedly IS a crime (it has to be kept for posterity) but the one person who can declare it legal is ... the president. So it's probably not illegal if he's the one doing it, or so i read. Americans are really finding out how much of what they thought were rules are actually just convention. It's genuinely terrifying how much power the president has...

    Edited by spindizzy at 19:58:29 18-05-2017
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 20:31:44 4,258 posts
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    Obama put a system in place to automatically archive tweets so that may still be in place.

    Honestly though, if that's what gets him given everything he's done then it's pretty pathetic.
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 20:55:59 70,135 posts
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    I suppose its like getting Al Capone for tax avoision.
  • Armoured_Bear 18 May 2017 21:05:30 19,673 posts
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-iran-iraq-kurdish-population-shia-muslims-a7742276.html
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 21:26:52 7,088 posts
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    He tweets from his personal account though
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 22:05:35 70,135 posts
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    They still count as a matter of presidential record.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 22:13:23 4,258 posts
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/02/08/is-it-legal-for-donald-trump-to-delete-tweets-as-president/

    And he was sent an official letter by the house oversight committee warning him about it a few months ago.

    In short he can delete them if he wants as long as they're being archived somewhere.

    Edited by reviewer at 22:15:28 18-05-2017
  • RelaxedMikki 18 May 2017 23:13:53 1,915 posts
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    I would be really surprised if Twitter actually permanently delete Tweets from their own servers?

    Surely 'deleted' tweets are just flagged as deleted, hidden from view, and the records kept?
  • Rodney 18 May 2017 23:35:55 3,075 posts
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    And if there's one person whose tweets they are making sure to archive, it'll be Trumps. Twitter being the dirty partisan liberals that they are.
  • Dirtbox 18 May 2017 23:38:49 88,476 posts
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    the_donald is having a meltdown over on reddit, they genuinely believe everything is rigged because an anti-trump subreddit is on the default subs now and an average shitpost gets 30 times the amount of karma their stickies do.

    And why is trump getting all this bad treatment when Hillary's emails...

    Pathetic homunculuses.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 23:40:05 18-05-2017
  • Mola_Ram 18 May 2017 23:41:28 15,146 posts
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    Yeah, deleted tweets are still findable. But if the US government recordkeeping act is similar to what it is in other countries, they should have copies of everything in a dedicated archive, not just relying on Twitter to keep it.

    And if they're doing it properly, the data would be captured either immediately after posting, or very soon afterwards. So it doesn't matter if he deletes them.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 23:53:51 18-05-2017
  • LionheartDJH 19 May 2017 00:00:35 19,771 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    A study into how the Republicans allowed this palpably unsuitable candidate into this position would be interesting.
    I think they knew what they were doing and figured he was their best chance of winning election, and that also he would screw up fairly quickly due to his political inexperience, general foolishness and ego. At which point he could be replaced by a more moderate underling, having served his purpose.

    Probably also a testing bed for some of the more extreme policies some in the GOP would like to implement.
  • Duffking 19 May 2017 00:03:23 13,583 posts
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    I think they just thought they control him as he didn't seem interested in the actual being president part of being president. Figured they'd just do whatever they wanted and let Trump take the credit a bit to massage his ego.
  • RelaxedMikki 19 May 2017 00:13:43 1,915 posts
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    Once they stopped treating him as a joke, the Republicans tried their best to stop Trump.

    But too many candidates stayed in the running too long and kept splitting the non-Trump vote.

    By the time it was just Trump vs The Zodiac Killer, Trump had already built up too much momentum.

    It was a fu#k up.

    Edited by RelaxedMikki at 00:14:10 19-05-2017
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