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  • Rodney 18 May 2017 08:36:04 3,141 posts
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    Yeah, he might even have good intentions in some ways. He'd love the adulation he'd receive if he fixed the health system, and brought back jobs.

    But he has no idea how to achieve his objectives and no understanding of the consequences to the decisions he's making. He's keeps walking into disasters of his own making. But If he was offered some life line to resign and save face, I don't think he'd take it. His ego wouldnt allow it.

    Seeing him testify in an impeachment hearing will be hilarious.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2017 08:54:15 8,848 posts
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    He's a petulant manbaby with a penchant for pussy grabbing. Just because he's a retard doesn't mean he isn't a vile cunt.

    Edited by Decks at 08:54:38 18-05-2017
  • Ginger 18 May 2017 09:03:51 7,232 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Whatever happens though, it'll never go that far. They'll find some way for him to resign without losing face. Either way he'll be gone in a couple of months.
    These things take ages. With the best will in the world, I reckon this is still going to rumble on into 2018
  • Duffking 18 May 2017 09:09:03 14,090 posts
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    At least he's been true to his word about running the country like one of his businesses. He promised it would be a total shitshow from day 1 and boy did he deliver.
  • Rodney 18 May 2017 09:10:55 3,141 posts
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    The investigation into Russian collision might take years, but he might be impeached or forced to resign well before then. His Twitter feed alone is incriminating enough.
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 09:46:45 70,743 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    He's a petulant manbaby with a penchant for pussy grabbing. Just because he's a retard doesn't mean he isn't a vile cunt.
    The dude who ghost wrote 'The Art of the Deal' has an interesting perspective.

    Basically, trumps dad was such a ringpiece, trump goes into every human interaction like it's a fight for survival, which has rendered him incapable of feeling basic human emotions.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/05/16/i-wrote-the-art-of-the-deal-with-trump-his-self-sabotage-is-rooted-in-his-past/
  • ubergine 18 May 2017 10:05:45 7,075 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    I can't wait for the Frost/Nixon moment with Trump. He'd be absolutely fucked if he were pressed on uncomfortable subjects by an unrelenting, intelligent journalist, but he's too much of a coward to not walk away at the first sign of resistance.
    He has two Frost/Nixons a day! Before breakfast!

    SNL put it brilliantly when they had him say something incriminating to an interviewer, and the interviewer asks his earpiece "Wait, is that it?! Did we get him?! Oh, No, nope, that's right, nothing actually matters anymore" or words to that effect.

    The notion he could have been elected in the first place remains straight-to-video futuristic sci-fi comedy.
  • Psiloc 18 May 2017 10:30:22 3,896 posts
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    Huggybear wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Ugh, yeah. I was having a conversation with someone on facebook at the same time about Nixon and had a brainfart.
    Nixon wasn't acquitted though, he resigned before before they could vote.

    Unlike Nixon I don't think Trump is actually intentionally sinister. He just genuinely doesn't know what the POTUS can and cannot (or should not) do. He just thought it'd be like being the biggest boss. Why can't he ask some underling to stop doing something harmful? Why can't he fire the guy if he refuses?

    That's probably what he's been used to doing all his life. And if it happened to be a little illegal, no one would find out. And if someone did, you'd just settle out of court.

    He just doesn't understand about the separation of powers, and that politics isn't (always) like business.
    I get what you're saying, I think he's definitely more on the incompetent side than the evil side. But I absolutely would not put a Watergate past him, in fact I think he'd probably do it and then Tweet about it, and then be utterly confused when people saw it as a bad thing.
  • mothercruncher 18 May 2017 10:36:33 13,420 posts
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    A study into how the Republicans allowed this palpably unsuitable candidate into this position would be interesting.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 18 May 2017 10:41:23 8,373 posts
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    The Nixon comparison is understandable but a bit apples and oranges. What do you mean by ‘sinister’? Nixon was very progressive for a Republican and did things like racially desegregate the schools in the south, ended the war in Vietnam, gave Native Americans self-determination and put the Environmental Protection Agency in place. Trump on the other hand has attempted to put several essentially racist policies in place and is moving backwards on the environment. Who’s more ‘sinister’ by that standard?

    And not to undersell Watergate, but that was essentially a wire-tapping scandal. Is that any less sinister than colluding with Russia to falsify an election?

    Trump is a calculating mercenary with no regard for humanity whatsoever. He is all about himself. I would take Nixon over him any day of the week.

    Edited by You-can-call-me-kal at 10:42:10 18-05-2017
  • Huggybear 18 May 2017 12:08:39 1,334 posts
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    What I meant was that having been in real estate for four decades he's probably used to doing something questionable on a regular basis, and he thought all this was just "business as usual" whereas Nixon undoubtedly understood he was fucked if he got caught.

    I'm not trying to say Trump is somehow innocent, just that he doesn't understand the limits of his power, or the level of accountability.
  • b0rk 18 May 2017 12:46:00 7,229 posts
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/865164340030316544

    Damn.
  • DutyPedant 18 May 2017 13:04:30 178 posts
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    He's got his phone back, tweeting again... "the single greatest witch hunt... in American history"

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865173176854204416

    Edited by DutyPedant at 13:10:51 18-05-2017
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:10:00 70,743 posts
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    To which every smartarse with a Twitter account will reply 'except for the actual witch hunts'
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 13:11:56 6,618 posts
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    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:12:23 70,743 posts
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    Haha, that and pointing out he started the birther witch hunt.

    What a cunt
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 13:13:27 7,119 posts
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    On a positive note, this moron being elected and the brexit fiasco have led to a lot more people taking an interest in politics and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can understand what's going on.
  • DutyPedant 18 May 2017 13:17:02 178 posts
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    On a positive note, the engines failing and the wings falling off this 747 have led to a lot more people taking an interest in gravity and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can be fooled into thinking they'll survive the burning wreckage.
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 13:27:56 6,618 posts
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    DutyPedant wrote:
    On a positive note, the engines failing and the wings falling off this 747 have led to a lot more people taking an interest in gravity and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can be fooled into thinking they'll survive the burning wreckage.
    Not sure what i think of this comment. On the one hand, DP clearly states it is on a positive note but the words dont sound positive :(.
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 13:31:12 659 posts
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    Seriously! Does he not realise how idiotic he looks Tweeting this sort of nonsense!?

    Prey tell which illegal acts you're referring to that took place during the Obama administration!


    Graxlar_v2 wrote:
    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:33:54 70,743 posts
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    specialgamer wrote:
    Seriously! Does he not realise how idiotic he looks Tweeting this sort of nonsense!?

    I think that ship sailed quite a while ago
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 13:40:04 659 posts
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    Counsel spelled incorrectly as well to top it off. :redface:
  • Rodney 18 May 2017 13:51:53 3,141 posts
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    specialgamer wrote:
    Counsel spelled incorrectly as well to top it off. :redface:
    He's gone too far now
  • Skirlasvoud 18 May 2017 13:53:58 2,322 posts
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    @b0rk

    b0rk wrote:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/865164340030316544

    Damn.
    It's no joke. The information war is on Europe and the rest of the Western Democracies as well; basically any advanced society with free speech and unlimited access to information. I read an article about it in the Dutch newspaper.

    Basically, Russia is overloading social media and the internet at large with conflicting reports on fake sites. Not pro-Russia and anti-democracy reports, but just - very cleverly - conflicting information in general to sow confusion and disintegrate social unity in the west. It's a major distraction that prevents us from concentrating on matters like Syria and Ukraine.

    It goes pretty deep too and the Russians are applying actual psychology. Things like clickbait articles people can't resist with false information. Information that aggravates the divisions between the right and left found in any liberal democracy.
    It's not even like the Russians have a headquarters filled with thousands of people coming up with the stuff either. That'd be too easy to trace back. There's just a handful of them that gently push the snowball off the mountain, and then all they need to do is rely on our democracy's own worst nature - the internet crackpots, trolls, the disenfranchised, Trump voters and our own lethargy - to turn it into an avalanche.

    The South Park bit was right:



    https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Trevor%27s_Axiom

    Only difference is that it's just one or two Russians that are the catalyst - and since there's money in fake news, a million westerners will perpetuate the mess while Putin laughs his ass off. Trump is a symptom of this disease. The clever ex-KGB agent has finally identified a weak spot to make the West disintegrate itself.

    It's really quite scare.

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 14:01:26 18-05-2017
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 14:01:21 6,618 posts
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/donald-trump-special-prosecutor-mueller-238534

    How Trump learned about the special prosecutor

    Trump handled it better than anyone expected, according to a person in the room. His reaction was “extremely measured,” another said.
    Did someone forget to tell Trump he was extremely measured?

    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!
  • Max_Powers 18 May 2017 14:05:52 1,218 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    At least he's been true to his word about running the country like one of his businesses. He promised it would be a total shitshow from day 1 and boy did he deliver.
    Lol!
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 14:35:09 659 posts
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    Holy hell!

    Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.
    Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106
  • Ziz0u 18 May 2017 14:55:06 11,003 posts
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  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 15:14:41 659 posts
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    The exact moment he corrected the spelling of 'Counsel' before deleting his earlier Tweet. :D
  • Deleted user 18 May 2017 15:41:28
    Which in itself - deleting tweets - is probably illegal. He really is terrible at this shady stuff, as he catalogues it all on twitter, all of which is admissible in court.

    Edited by ViperDrive at 15:42:30 18-05-2017
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