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  • You-can-call-me-kal 18 May 2017 10:41:23 9,307 posts
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    The Nixon comparison is understandable but a bit apples and oranges. What do you mean by ‘sinister’? Nixon was very progressive for a Republican and did things like racially desegregate the schools in the south, ended the war in Vietnam, gave Native Americans self-determination and put the Environmental Protection Agency in place. Trump on the other hand has attempted to put several essentially racist policies in place and is moving backwards on the environment. Who’s more ‘sinister’ by that standard?

    And not to undersell Watergate, but that was essentially a wire-tapping scandal. Is that any less sinister than colluding with Russia to falsify an election?

    Trump is a calculating mercenary with no regard for humanity whatsoever. He is all about himself. I would take Nixon over him any day of the week.

    Edited by You-can-call-me-kal at 10:42:10 18-05-2017
  • Huggybear 18 May 2017 12:08:39 1,358 posts
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    What I meant was that having been in real estate for four decades he's probably used to doing something questionable on a regular basis, and he thought all this was just "business as usual" whereas Nixon undoubtedly understood he was fucked if he got caught.

    I'm not trying to say Trump is somehow innocent, just that he doesn't understand the limits of his power, or the level of accountability.
  • b0rk 18 May 2017 12:46:00 7,300 posts
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/865164340030316544

    Damn.
  • DutyPedant 18 May 2017 13:04:30 191 posts
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    He's got his phone back, tweeting again... "the single greatest witch hunt... in American history"

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865173176854204416

    Edited by DutyPedant at 13:10:51 18-05-2017
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:10:00 71,317 posts
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    To which every smartarse with a Twitter account will reply 'except for the actual witch hunts'
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 13:11:56 7,053 posts
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    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:12:23 71,317 posts
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    Haha, that and pointing out he started the birther witch hunt.

    What a cunt
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 13:13:27 7,129 posts
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    On a positive note, this moron being elected and the brexit fiasco have led to a lot more people taking an interest in politics and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can understand what's going on.
  • DutyPedant 18 May 2017 13:17:02 191 posts
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    On a positive note, the engines failing and the wings falling off this 747 have led to a lot more people taking an interest in gravity and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can be fooled into thinking they'll survive the burning wreckage.
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 13:27:56 7,053 posts
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    DutyPedant wrote:
    On a positive note, the engines failing and the wings falling off this 747 have led to a lot more people taking an interest in gravity and has led to a lot more explaining of procedures and policies so that the common person can be fooled into thinking they'll survive the burning wreckage.
    Not sure what i think of this comment. On the one hand, DP clearly states it is on a positive note but the words dont sound positive :(.
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 13:31:12 674 posts
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    Seriously! Does he not realise how idiotic he looks Tweeting this sort of nonsense!?

    Prey tell which illegal acts you're referring to that took place during the Obama administration!


    Graxlar_v2 wrote:
    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
  • nickthegun 18 May 2017 13:33:54 71,317 posts
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    specialgamer wrote:
    Seriously! Does he not realise how idiotic he looks Tweeting this sort of nonsense!?

    I think that ship sailed quite a while ago
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 13:40:04 674 posts
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    Counsel spelled incorrectly as well to top it off. :redface:
  • Rodney 18 May 2017 13:51:53 3,211 posts
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    specialgamer wrote:
    Counsel spelled incorrectly as well to top it off. :redface:
    He's gone too far now
  • Skirlasvoud 18 May 2017 13:53:58 2,611 posts
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    @b0rk

    b0rk wrote:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/865164340030316544

    Damn.
    It's no joke. The information war is on Europe and the rest of the Western Democracies as well; basically any advanced society with free speech and unlimited access to information. I read an article about it in the Dutch newspaper.

    Basically, Russia is overloading social media and the internet at large with conflicting reports on fake sites. Not pro-Russia and anti-democracy reports, but just - very cleverly - conflicting information in general to sow confusion and disintegrate social unity in the west. It's a major distraction that prevents us from concentrating on matters like Syria and Ukraine.

    It goes pretty deep too and the Russians are applying actual psychology. Things like clickbait articles people can't resist with false information. Information that aggravates the divisions between the right and left found in any liberal democracy.
    It's not even like the Russians have a headquarters filled with thousands of people coming up with the stuff either. That'd be too easy to trace back. There's just a handful of them that gently push the snowball off the mountain, and then all they need to do is rely on our democracy's own worst nature - the internet crackpots, trolls, the disenfranchised, Trump voters and our own lethargy - to turn it into an avalanche.

    The South Park bit was right:



    https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Trevor%27s_Axiom

    Only difference is that it's just one or two Russians that are the catalyst - and since there's money in fake news, a million westerners will perpetuate the mess while Putin laughs his ass off. Trump is a symptom of this disease. The clever ex-KGB agent has finally identified a weak spot to make the West disintegrate itself.

    It's really quite scare.

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 14:01:26 18-05-2017
  • Graxlar_v2 18 May 2017 14:01:21 7,053 posts
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/donald-trump-special-prosecutor-mueller-238534

    How Trump learned about the special prosecutor

    Trump handled it better than anyone expected, according to a person in the room. His reaction was “extremely measured,” another said.
    Did someone forget to tell Trump he was extremely measured?

    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!
  • Max_Powers 18 May 2017 14:05:52 1,224 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    At least he's been true to his word about running the country like one of his businesses. He promised it would be a total shitshow from day 1 and boy did he deliver.
    Lol!
  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 14:35:09 674 posts
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    Holy hell!

    Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.
    Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106
  • Ziz0u 18 May 2017 14:55:06 11,009 posts
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  • specialgamer 18 May 2017 15:14:41 674 posts
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    The exact moment he corrected the spelling of 'Counsel' before deleting his earlier Tweet. :D
  • Deleted user 18 May 2017 15:41:28
    Which in itself - deleting tweets - is probably illegal. He really is terrible at this shady stuff, as he catalogues it all on twitter, all of which is admissible in court.

    Edited by ViperDrive at 15:42:30 18-05-2017
  • twelveways 18 May 2017 15:56:01 7,129 posts
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    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
  • challenge_hanukkah 18 May 2017 15:57:16 4,910 posts
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    Not as illegal as that referendum.
  • dankcushions 18 May 2017 15:59:45 297 posts
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    say what you want about trump, but his term is, by some margin, the funniest yet.

    take away the threats to muslims and humanity in general, and i'd be all for it continuing indefinitely as some sort of 'breaking news' art installation.
  • RichieTenenbaum 18 May 2017 16:06:38 2,670 posts
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    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
  • thelzdking 18 May 2017 16:10:05 6,112 posts
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    I'd love it if The KLF were behind the entire Trump presidency and it's just a big promotional stunt for a new version of America: What Time is Love?
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 16:34:02 4,524 posts
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    RichieTenenbaum wrote:
    twelveways wrote:
    Deleting Tweets is illegal?
    He's the president. He's essentially deleting his records.
    He's doing enough dodgy stuff, there's no need to get silly about it though.
  • reviewer 18 May 2017 16:43:01 4,524 posts
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    Uh oh

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-republican-amash-first-to-say-possible-a7741796.html

    If he was impeached does the VP take over? I assumed not because they ran together but I have no idea.
  • thelzdking 18 May 2017 16:48:55 6,112 posts
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    Yep, VP becomes POTUS. I have no idea what has to happen for there to be another election under the US system.

    Edited by thelzdking at 16:49:08 18-05-2017
  • matrim83 18 May 2017 16:53:33 5,676 posts
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    Like fucking clockwork

    His people put out a well measured (as can be) response to a shit situation. Trump then 12 hours later fucks it up on the twitter.

    WH - We welcome a special prosecutor.
    Trump - Waaaah they assigned a special prosecutor.

    What a fucking idiot.
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