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  • deem 29 Mar 2005 10:19:29 31,641 posts
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  • ssuellid 29 Mar 2005 10:25:46 19,141 posts
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    iTunes works fine on my mates low end mac. Apple are not very good at PC software - quicktime and their installers are pretty shite as well.
  • unwashed 29 Mar 2005 11:12:02 1,857 posts
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    Yes, whoever told the windows quicktime programmers about the system tray and that they could put an icon in there deserves to be shot. As does everyone who misuses it...

    /glares at crappy software from it dept...

    I currently have 17 icons in my system tray, at least eight shouldn't be there... grrr...
  • eviltobz  29 Mar 2005 11:56:59 2,609 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Heh... I was waiting for someone to say iTunes. iTunes is cack. It sounds alright, but MAN - what a footprint! Winamp pinches about 14-15 megs of memory when I launch it. iTunes nobbles 50-60megs. And tons of processor time. The git.

    Why does everyone rate it so highly?
    well, for a start it is taking up about 11 meg on my pc here at work, so i'm not sure what's up there.

    as to why i like it, firstly the native aac support is good for the old quality and filesize trade off. secondly i like the way it deals with managing your library. as an ipod owner i was keen to get it on my pc as soon as it was released and quickly came to like it's style, and as mentioned, running it on the macs i've since acquired it is even better. apple could do with employing some better people to port their apps to the pc, it's shocking just how nice quicktime can be on the right system.

    Edited by eviltobz  at 10:57:28 29-03-2005
  • sam_spade 29 Mar 2005 11:58:42 15,745 posts
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    My only problem with the iTunes is the shitty front end. I prefer a folder style mechanism like Musicmatch. The panel view they have is an eyesore and the basic view is too unorganised.

    Edited by sam_spade at 10:59:46 29-03-2005
  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 12:46:25 78,226 posts
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    Added the browsers.

    Thanks to the mod with the editting skills there.

    P2P clients next, I think...

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  • Dr.Haggard 29 Mar 2005 12:52:13 4,209 posts
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    I used Winamp exclusively for years, but I've been using iTunes now for about 6 months or so and I love it. I find the playlist and media library interfaces so much nicer and more intuitive, and it sounds fantastic.

    Great list btw DB. May I also suggest Desktop Sidebar as a handy widget for RSS feeds and, well...almost anything (I have it displaying my CPU and mem usage, latest unread emails, MSN Messenger list, RSS feeds, a volume control, a clock and other bits and bobs). Couldn't be without it on my work PC.

    I'll also second rhythm in saying that AVG free edition has served me very well for years now both at work and at home, it does a fine job.
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  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 13:10:22 78,226 posts
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    I'll do a GUI customisation section soon and include the sidebar, I quite like it too, I'd love it if it had an embedded media player with a screen though. The sidebar in longhorn did during one of the earlier betas and defaultly connected to a random webcam when it was idle :)

    I'll look into AVG's updates, personal experience has taught me not to trust it too much as it let two virii run rampant on my drive on separate occassions while telling me I had a virus and refusing to clean up any of it. I'll check it's changelog to see if they've de-pricked that particular thorn.

    As for iTunes, it's purely personal preference as I mentioned, but I found it over-complex as well as being a resource hog. If they resolve those two issues then it'll get on the list. As for now, it being "best" is definately open to debate.

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  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 14:13:29 78,226 posts
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    BT clients added. I've skipped ABC because it's losing the battle at the moment.

    This thread is going to take a looong time to finish. At least it'll keep me out of trouble :)

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  • Mike_Hunt 29 Mar 2005 14:18:36 23,514 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    BT clients added. I've skipped ABC because it's losing the battle at the moment.

    This thread is going to take a looong time to finish. At least it'll keep me out of trouble :)
    Hmmm, nice coverage of BT, however, aren't the newsgroups worth a mention. I've never been down that road myself, put all lot of people seem to rave about them.

    [MH]
  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 14:36:43 78,226 posts
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    I'll cover newsgroup software later, I'm just going to cover the software tbh, it's up to you what you do with it.

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  • Mike_Hunt 29 Mar 2005 14:39:49 23,514 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    I'll cover newsgroup software later, I'm just going to cover the software tbh, it's up to you what you do with it.
    Indeed. I'm just not sure what's available, how it works, and what advantages it offers over BT (if any).

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  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 14:43:16 78,226 posts
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    Not a great deal, it's far more nuts and bolts than BT. You'll need to go to the newsgroup (they're all listed), download what you want in parts of about 14mb each, slap them all together and unpack them. It's not really faster, just more secure.

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  • Mike_Hunt 29 Mar 2005 14:46:03 23,514 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Not a great deal, it's far more nuts and bolts than BT. You'll need to go to the newsgroup (they're all listed), download what you want in parts of about 14mb each, slap them all together and unpack them. It's not really faster, just more secure.
    Sounds like a pain in the arse.

    What are the average data transfer rates? Sometime's I find BT a bit sluggish (for anything not brand new).

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  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 14:49:50 78,226 posts
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    You'll get a good dl rate. Unfortunately, as with BT it's time specific, you don't really have a giant library to choose from, just whats available over the previous few days, the rest just drops off the bottom of the list.

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  • bainbrge 29 Mar 2005 15:56:20 1,687 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Heh... I was waiting for someone to say iTunes. iTunes is cack. It sounds alright, but MAN - what a footprint! Winamp pinches about 14-15 megs of memory when I launch it. iTunes nobbles 50-60megs. And tons of processor time. The git.

    Why does everyone rate it so highly?

    cos even my dead gran has a super mega dell with a zillion gigs of RAM. Who cares if it takes 50-60megs? Ands what else are you doing with your processor time, searching for alien signals. I kill myself...
  • JaysonG 29 Mar 2005 18:31:16 828 posts
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    Is what deeb said about Norton true?? You should add download managers too.

    Edited by JaysonG at 17:35:05 29-03-2005
  • deem 29 Mar 2005 18:35:41 31,641 posts
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  • SpaceDave3000 29 Mar 2005 20:04:56 78,226 posts
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    I didn't quite say that, but I'm no fan of Norton stemming back to my tech support days and it being amoungst the main reasons people would contact me.

    My Norton rant goes something like this:

    Couple what I said with the fact it's a bloated, obtrusive resource pig that screams foul at the drop of a hat just so it seems it's being useful, not to mention it slows your system down by "filtering" every little thing that goes to and from your hard drive to the point of death therefore it has the added bonus of it messing up the occassional installation. It was designed to make PC World Joe get all paranoid and think the entire net is out to get him just so he renews his Norton subscription.

    Honestly, AVG towers above it.

    Sorry, an awful lot of hate there :)

    Edited by Dirtbox at 21:23:43 29-03-2005

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  • SpaceDave3000 30 Mar 2005 03:38:52 78,226 posts
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    You're partially right, although the main problem with Comet, Azureus and Bit Tornado is that it's uploads rely heavily on other computers being able to initiate a connection via an echo request. They can't if you have a firewall, it's as simple as that. It can be remedied by choosing a port and manually opening it.

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  • SpaceDave3000 30 Mar 2005 04:04:28 78,226 posts
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    I didn't know that, very cool.

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  • Hicksy 30 Mar 2005 09:17:13 2,594 posts
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    fantastic thread : )

    can i suggest adding a spyware section?

    Lavasoft Adaware, Webroot Spysweeper both recommended

  • cubbymoore 30 Mar 2005 14:43:47 36,498 posts
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    Deebs, I just defragged my hard-drive with PerfectDisk, it took about two or three hours, but out of curiosity I ran microsoft's defragger and I've got 18% total fragmentation and 36% file fragmentation. It wasn't that bad when I analysed it before!
  • SpaceDave3000 31 Mar 2005 17:34:42 78,226 posts
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    Cubby ~ As I mentioned, it doesn't de-frag in the same way, it groups the files that are in the same programs together regardless of when they were last accessed. It's the access dates that are giving you a false positive for fragmentation in the default defragger. Also, when it says "fragmented" it doesn't mean the files are split up, just the file type order order is wrong according to the way it wants them.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 16:36:16 31-03-2005

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  • StixxUK 31 Mar 2005 17:54:47 7,255 posts
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    As far as spyware goes, I've found the Windows Antispyware Beta to be by far the best I've used. Picks up everything AdAware and Spybot do and then some!
  • SpaceDave3000 31 Mar 2005 18:20:59 78,226 posts
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    I'm doing spyware and Windows customisation at the mo so expect a big update soon.

    The MS anti-spy is quite good, it's a re-pack of Giant's spyware remover. My problem with it is that it spots some unfathomable things sometimes and seems to completely ignore some of spybot and ad-aware's choices which slip through freely in my experience. Not to mention that there's a trojan about that was written to attack it. I'm still not too sure about it, so I'll wait until it gets a full release before I list it proper, but I will mention it.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 17:38:16 31-03-2005

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  • The-Storm 2 May 2005 19:33:47 327 posts
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    Can anyone please recommend
    a good package for video editing? I want something
    really simple and not at all complicated.
    I'm using DVD Decrypter \ DVD Shrink and Dr Divx.
    Ideally if there is anything SIMPLE and free it would be best.
    I have been recommended Quick Time Pro but it keeps crashing
    on me and I keep getting a green screen whenever I run a
    video, I can't be asked to work out which codec is clashing
    with it.

    What application do you advice? I want to be able to
    select the Start and stop point in a video file eg AVI
    and "snip" the part I want.

    Please advise.

    Edited by The Storm at 19:34:11 02-05-2005
  • Khab 2 May 2005 22:59:23 6,576 posts
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    VirtualDub.
  • The-Storm 3 May 2005 09:49:17 327 posts
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    I have tried VirtualDubMod 1.5.10 and the sound is out of sync regardless how i edit the AVI clip that I want.
    I do have a pretty fast PC with 1Gig ram.
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