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  • altitude2k 22 Feb 2014 08:24:23 4,410 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Ha,  yeah. My bog standard 1.6l has no guts whatsoever. But that's not a problem really, it's been rock solid for the 4 years I've had it (now 9 years old).
    People seem to give Ford drivers a load of grief, being a bit snobbish about them. But they are excellent cars, very reliable, handle very well, more toys inside than most, and frequently deemed the best in class.
  • Dougs 22 Feb 2014 08:28:07 68,038 posts
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    And parts are cheaper than most.
  • altitude2k 22 Feb 2014 08:52:54 4,410 posts
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    Owing to their popularity, no doubt.
  • DaM 24 Mar 2014 12:08:29 13,264 posts
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    There you go ILTM, problem solved!
    Is it spam SEO post Monday or something?
  • elstoof 24 Mar 2014 12:43:17 7,504 posts
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    I'm surprised no one else mentioned the polyurethane color and Infiniti suspension bushings for condensation remedies. People just don't look at the obvious solution I guess.
  • nickthegun 24 Mar 2014 12:47:42 60,135 posts
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    Its like car advice from vizzini.

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  • Sharzam 11 Apr 2014 20:54:14 2,934 posts
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    Despite almost being 30 i have finally decided to sort of a driving license. So just wondering what sort of cars are suggested these days for first car.

    I had a look at some insurance quotes for random cars, corsas, fiests etc to see the ball park and its not too bad considering a new driver, i assume because of age. So i am not totally limited to clapped out piles of crap.

    Thinking something small, it will not be used for daily communing (unless i move ofc) is purely for a run around at weekends say to pop into the nearby city and general things like if i take up cricket. Motorway driving and long distance is not a priority, but some fuel economy would be nice for that random time i do want to do a bit. As i dont have children i have no need for a big car so my initial thoughts were the C1 and Aygo sort of cars but on second thought that might be a bit on the small side so something a little bigger such as the Yaris or 206 unless significantly difference to the baby cars. Tax and insurance is probably the number one factor simply because it wont be used every day.

    Budget is around £1500 (max £3000), age within the last 10 years and ideally small engine for insurance. Figured this was the right thread as it is about a new car and is about help :) but feel free to move it.

    Edited by Sharzam at 21:09:54 11-04-2014

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  • Bremenacht 11 Apr 2014 20:57:06 18,458 posts
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    Can't go much wrong with a Fiesta, for cost, insurance or maintenance.

    Anything old people go for will be cheap to run.
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 21:16:05 1,382 posts
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    As you've described it, small petrol engine sounds best. Diesels can be cheap insurance but tend to be noisy in small cars.

    Fiesta is a pretty good place to start. Skoda, Seat, VW and Toyota worth a look, but there is a massive choice of Fiestas with pretty cheap servicing.
  • skuzzbag 11 Apr 2014 21:31:10 5,648 posts
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    How about a 206 1.4 Hdi? Should get a good lowish mileage one for 2500 (although I wouldn't worry about a 100K plus one with full history & receipts) and they get 60 mpg easy. Make sure the cambelt has been changed at 70K though.
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 21:38:09 1,382 posts
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    The electrics in French cars worry me, particularly if they're a bit older. Always like the looks and design though.
  • Sharzam 11 Apr 2014 21:44:33 2,934 posts
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    @skuzzbag

    Sorry for my noobish what does hdi mean?

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  • ibenam 11 Apr 2014 21:45:44 1,437 posts
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    At that budget I'd stick with Japanese cars,

    A few options which all can be had for under £3k, 5 door, less than £60k miles & 7 years old, petrol and Road tax of less than £125.

    1. Hyundai i20
    2. Nissan Micra
    3. Hyundai i10
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 21:49:32 1,382 posts
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    Sharzam wrote:
    @skuzzbag

    Sorry for my noobish what does hdi mean?
    Hunky diesel injection?

    Definitely diesel anyway. 99% of the time, D means diesel.
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 22:01:31 1,382 posts
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    High pressure Diesel Injection.
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 22:04:11 1,382 posts
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    ibenam wrote:
    At that budget I'd stick with Japanese cars,

    A few options which all can be had for under £3k, 5 door, less than £60k miles & 7 years old, petrol and Road tax of less than £125.

    1. Hyundai i20
    2. Nissan Micra
    3. Hyundai i10
    Hyundai isn't Japanese.
  • Sharzam 11 Apr 2014 22:12:05 2,934 posts
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    Hmm Hyandai, had not even thought about that. In fact i never hear about them. Of course Fiesta is a pretty standard go to as everyone knows someone with a Ford it is defiantly worthy, my only concern with the Fiesta was that is it a teenager car? So premiums.

    I can imagine teenagers with there turbo charged fiestas bombing around along with the Seat Ibizas.

    Oh and one other point it doesnt have to be 5 door, although nice that is far from essential.

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  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 22:18:31 1,382 posts
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    The insurance costs are all about the insurance group, which is based on performance and repair costs. Check the insurance groups.

    Nothing that's been suggested here will be a high group.
  • Bremenacht 11 Apr 2014 22:22:39 18,458 posts
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    Depends on the model. You should see this reflected in the insurance quotes.
  • Bremenacht 11 Apr 2014 22:23:01 18,458 posts
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    Wot he said.
  • ibenam 11 Apr 2014 22:29:04 1,437 posts
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    iancognito wrote:
    ibenam wrote:
    At that budget I'd stick with Japanese cars,

    A few options which all can be had for under £3k, 5 door, less than £60k miles & 7 years old, petrol and Road tax of less than £125.

    1. Hyundai i20
    2. Nissan Micra
    3. Hyundai i10
    Hyundai isn't Japanese.
    You know what I mean
  • Sharzam 11 Apr 2014 22:29:18 2,934 posts
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    Right gotcha, so its not about the family of car but rather the variant. So the LX, Sport, whatever will be the ones that attract the accident prone teenagers but the boring 'standard' one will be relativity low on insurance.

    Iam not new to the roads as i have used motorbikes but the last 10 years, just new to cars. Annoyingly the two don't crossover when comes to insurance.

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  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 22:32:02 1,382 posts
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    ibenam wrote:
    iancognito wrote:
    ibenam wrote:
    At that budget I'd stick with Japanese cars,

    A few options which all can be had for under £3k, 5 door, less than £60k miles & 7 years old, petrol and Road tax of less than £125.

    1. Hyundai i20
    2. Nissan Micra
    3. Hyundai i10
    Hyundai isn't Japanese.
    You know what I mean
    Racist!! ;)
  • iancognito 11 Apr 2014 22:45:40 1,382 posts
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    Sharzam wrote:
    Right gotcha, so its not about the family of car but rather the variant. So the LX, Sport, whatever will be the ones that attract the accident prone teenagers but the boring 'standard' one will be relativity low on insurance.

    Iam not new to the roads as i have used motorbikes but the last 10 years, just new to cars. Annoyingly the two don't crossover when comes to insurance.
    It's all about the insurance group. Low is cheaper.
  • drip 11 Apr 2014 23:00:56 4,108 posts
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    iancognito wrote:
    Sharzam wrote:
    @skuzzbag

    Sorry for my noobish what does hdi mean?
    Hunky diesel injection?

    Definitely diesel anyway. 99% of the time, D means diesel.
    Unless it means "Definitely Injection".
  • drip 11 Apr 2014 23:13:28 4,108 posts
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    Anyway. Afaik Fiesta is a good choice, relatively cheap, and pretty solid (and nice to drive). Avoid the Ka, shoddy quality. Corsa is not bad either, but Fiesta tends to be more solid according to German TÜV statistics.

    There are many options, but Fiesta would be where I'd start looking.
  • PatrickEwing 11 Apr 2014 23:13:39 2,140 posts
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    Sorry to intervene but can it not also mean direct injection? I have no basis to this to this theory, just always presumed this.

    On car recommendation, my only advice would be don't buy French.
  • drip 11 Apr 2014 23:18:43 4,108 posts
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    I think since D usually means Diesel, brands will avoid using the D for anything else.

    But yes, stay away from Italian cars, and even more from French cars. It's almost as bad as it gets unless you want to go for Soviet or American cars.
  • barchetta 12 Apr 2014 07:54:44 1,337 posts
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    Heh, looked back at my and my wife's car ownership and after the above comment I guess I must be incredibly lucky .... Fiesta, Uno, Uno, Bravo, Barchetta (natch), 2cv, Saxo, Stilo, 306, Grand Picasso!
    Only non Italian/French marque was the Fiesta - that specific model was a misguided purchase, bought as seen, as I put my foot through the floor in the first week!
    Serviced regularly at a garage I trust and never thrashed them. Never had trouble out of the ordinary wear and tear/consumables with any of them though I'd say the Fiesta recommendations are very sensible. Perhaps have the AA or someone with an eye to potential faults give it a good look over.

    Having said that, with a return commute of 120 miles a day I'm now in the market for new car too. The 306 (1.6 petrol) has just clocked 125,000 and driven carefully I can get some economy but still could do better.
    Anyone run a Seat Leon 1.6 TDI ecomotive at alll? Looks good on economy, is well equipped and should stand up to the distance I'm doing I think.
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