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  • muttler 11 Sep 2013 18:19:36 3,770 posts
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    DrStrangelove wrote:
    muttler wrote:
    DrStrangelove wrote:
    I heard from more than one friends of Japanese who behaved in tourist locations like superhumans who had every right to punch and kick natives.
    Bullshit.
    Yup, you're right. That was stupid. I should know better than jumping to conclusions based on the witnessing of a few individual cases.

    Not least because I know that hotel staff often falls victim to some people living out their ugliest antisocial inclinations. I have another friend working in a hotel restaurant in Germany, and she was threatened with beating several times already, by non-Japanese people. That in some hotels in far away poor countries like Indonesia and India there may happen actual violence could almost be expected, be the "guests" Japanese or not.

    I apologise, and will try to be a bit more careful in the future.
    You sound like a div.

    "I have a friend working in a German restaurant and she was threatened with a beating several times by non-japanese people."

    Well that narrows it down a bit, 'non-japanese people'.  So all you basically know is that the people involved in this alleged incident are not Japanese, and yet you cite this incident to support your assertion that Japanese tourists are prone to beating on people like the supermen they are when they're on holiday abroad.
  • Deleted user 11 September 2013 18:30:31
    We're just one step away from saying they all have slitty eyes and go around saying "ME SO SOLLY WENERABLE GUEST" to visiting businessmen. All we need is a follow-up of "AND WHAT ABOUT THE DARKIES?" and we can launch a reboot of Till Death Us Do Part.
  • Dangerous_Dave 11 Sep 2013 18:42:53 21 posts
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    Edited by Dangerous_Dave at 18:44:05 11-09-2013
  • faux_carnation 11 Sep 2013 18:56:03 8,482 posts
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  • Dangerous_Dave 11 Sep 2013 19:14:03 21 posts
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    Why do the Japanese not like immigrants anyway?

    Edited by Dangerous_Dave at 19:16:29 11-09-2013
  • DodgyPast 11 Sep 2013 19:34:15 8,333 posts
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    Dangerous_Dave wrote:
    Why do the Japanese not like immigrants anyway?
    Can't answer that one, but I have noticed Thai men are generally a lot more hostile to westerners than the women.
  • FWB 11 Sep 2013 23:01:03 41,916 posts
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    Dangerous_Dave wrote:
    Why do the Japanese not like immigrants anyway?
    Ignorance. Simply not used to them. It is a homogenous society and we are seen as outsiders; a threat. It's not hatred.

    I experienced racism while living there, but firstly you lived in a bubble anyway, so didn't care too much and secondly, you always knew it wouldn't be your home and that you could leave anytime.

    Can't imagine what it is like to experience it with nowhere to go.
  • Deleted user 11 September 2013 23:06:20
    Dangerous_Dave wrote:
    Why do the Japanese not like immigrants anyway?
    Probably not very trusting of why a foreigner would come to their country and not photograph every fucking square inch of it.
  • Chopsen 11 Sep 2013 23:16:31 15,140 posts
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    http://www.eurogamer.net/forum/post/89296/2460925
  • DrStrangelove 12 Sep 2013 20:56:18 2,538 posts
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    muttler wrote:
    DrStrangelove wrote:
    muttler wrote:
    DrStrangelove wrote:
    I heard from more than one friends of Japanese who behaved in tourist locations like superhumans who had every right to punch and kick natives.
    Bullshit.
    Yup, you're right. That was stupid. I should know better than jumping to conclusions based on the witnessing of a few individual cases.

    Not least because I know that hotel staff often falls victim to some people living out their ugliest antisocial inclinations. I have another friend working in a hotel restaurant in Germany, and she was threatened with beating several times already, by non-Japanese people. That in some hotels in far away poor countries like Indonesia and India there may happen actual violence could almost be expected, be the "guests" Japanese or not.

    I apologise, and will try to be a bit more careful in the future.
    You sound like a div.

    "I have a friend working in a German restaurant and she was threatened with a beating several times by non-japanese people."

    Well that narrows it down a bit, 'non-japanese people'.  So all you basically know is that the people involved in this alleged incident are not Japanese, and yet you cite this incident to support your assertion that Japanese tourists are prone to beating on people like the supermen they are when they're on holiday abroad.
    Did you even read what I wrote?
  • twelveways 13 Sep 2013 05:41:55 3,497 posts
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    In the west we call pornos 'blue movies'. In China they call them 'yellow movies'.
  • DodgyPast 13 Sep 2013 09:06:13 8,333 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    Dangerous_Dave wrote:
    Why do the Japanese not like immigrants anyway?
    Ignorance. Simply not used to them. It is a homogenous society and we are seen as outsiders; a threat. It's not hatred.

    I experienced racism while living there, but firstly you lived in a bubble anyway, so didn't care too much and secondly, you always knew it wouldn't be your home and that you could leave anytime.

    Can't imagine what it is like to experience it with nowhere to go.
    I'm much more of a permanent resident in Thailand and may not leave.

    Low level racism is a constant part of life. Given the behaviour of a lot of foreigners over here it's not that surprising and by avoiding the areas where foreigners tend to behave the worst I have a much more pleasant life.

    Knowing a reasonable amount of the language and being able to pronounce it to quite a high standard makes the world of difference. I spend most of my time in local places and there's nothing like watching the relief that follows the rabbit in headlights expression most Thais get when they think they're going to have to speak English. In fact once I've broken the ice I probably get treated better.

    Having said all that, my experiences are mostly positive because I don't expect any consideration for my own culture or language with strangers. With strangers I try to show the best of combining both cultures. Obviously my friends that are Thai tend to be better educated and more worldly than average so I can be myself with them.

    Edited by DodgyPast at 09:14:46 13-09-2013
  • Tonka 13 Sep 2013 09:49:41 19,840 posts
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    People labeling themselves as ex-pats and hanging out in ex-pat wateringholes are fucknuts. Seeing them makes me understand why there are racists. I wish the EDL et al could see the master race in action.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • BeardedGamerUK 13 Sep 2013 13:01:12 995 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    People labeling themselves as ex-pats and hanging out in ex-pat watering holes are fucknuts.
    This has always seemed pointless to me. Why go to live in another country, probably one where they don't speak English as a first language, then spend all their time hanging out with other English people in English themed bars? My idea of hell!
  • the_dudefather 13 Sep 2013 13:04:38 8,976 posts
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    'I don't need to learn the language, all the locals speak English and if they don't, they are just pretending and they hate you'

    Edited by the_dudefather at 13:06:16 13-09-2013

    (ง ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

  • mrpon 13 Sep 2013 13:06:36 27,642 posts
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    @BeardedGamerUK You've just described the typical British holidaymaker.

    Give yourself £5 or ½ gig, you're worth it.

  • glaeken 13 Sep 2013 13:13:34 10,976 posts
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    @BeardedGamerUK The climate is a big reason for many and what they are looking for is not to live in another country but create a bit of their country in a better climate. Makes sense to me.
  • RedSparrows 13 Sep 2013 13:40:12 20,752 posts
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    It makes sense, but that sense, to me, should surely be subordinated to the fact you're living in a foreign country with its own life and customs. That's far more important/interesting. Meh.
  • Razz 13 Sep 2013 13:42:31 59,986 posts
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    BeardedGamerUK wrote:
    Tonka wrote:
    People labeling themselves as ex-pats and hanging out in ex-pat watering holes are fucknuts.
    This has always seemed pointless to me. Why go to live in another country, probably one where they don't speak English as a first language, then spend all their time hanging out with other English people in English themed bars? My idea of hell!
    You've just described every British expat I've met in South Africa. Racist as fuck too, many claiming they moved there because of Apartheid :D

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  • Moot_Point 13 Sep 2013 13:42:36 3,503 posts
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    meme wrote:
    We're just one step away from saying they all have slitty eyes and go around saying "ME SO SOLLY WENERABLE GUEST" to visiting businessmen. All we need is a follow-up of "AND WHAT ABOUT THE DARKIES?" and we can launch a reboot of Till Death Us Do Part.
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  • glaeken 13 Sep 2013 13:43:52 10,976 posts
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    They are not there for the customs and the “foreigners”. The fact the better climate happens to be located in a foreign country is irrelevant.
  • DodgyPast 13 Sep 2013 13:44:13 8,333 posts
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    the_dudefather wrote:
    'I don't need to learn the language, all the locals speak English and if they don't, they are just pretending and they hate you'
    If they all spoke English I'd be out of job.
  • RedSparrows 13 Sep 2013 13:53:43 20,752 posts
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    glaeken wrote:
    They are not there for the customs and the “foreigners”. The fact the better climate happens to be located in a foreign country is irrelevant.
    Yeah I know. I'm simply saying that for me, that's not the 'right' way of doing it. But that's for me. I don't want to tell other people what to do. The only time I do is when one expat of such a kind might pronounce on race/immigration et al, but then the hypocrisy is so clear as to not make it worthwhile.
  • twelveways 13 Sep 2013 15:33:27 3,497 posts
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    After a while living in a foreign country you tend to realise that you have very little in common with the locals and it is very difficult to meet people that you can have a 'normal' conversation with. It is nice to go to a western bar and meet westerners and talk rubbish like you used to back home.

    Typical conversation with a Chinese guy:

    Him: Do you like football?
    Me: Yes, I support Liverpool, what about you?
    Him: I think Gerrard is so handsome.
    Me: OK, bye.

    I didn't come over here to immerse myself in culture though, I came over here to make a living.
  • Deleted user 13 September 2013 15:35:44
    mrpon wrote:
    @BeardedGamerUK You've just described the typical British holidaymaker.
    How to get a foreigner to understand English when on holiday:

    1) Speak slower
    2) Shout
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 13 Sep 2013 15:37:54 36,274 posts
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    meme wrote:
    mrpon wrote:
    @BeardedGamerUK You've just described the typical British holidaymaker.
    How to get a foreigner to understand English when on holiday:

    1) Speak slower
    2) Shout
    My auntie (dad's sister) lives in Mexico and you've just described how he talks on the phone to her. You don't have to shout Dad, that's the magic of telephones.

    I totally called it.
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  • Grax 13 Sep 2013 15:41:19 1,200 posts
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    And don't forget magic hand gestures which automatically make it obvious what you want like doing the scribble motion on your hand to represent wanting the bill (whilst saying can I have the biiiiiiiillllll)
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 13 Sep 2013 15:47:50 6,654 posts
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    Low level racism in Thailand? Tbf sex tourists and junkies promote what's best about the western beta male
  • RedSparrows 13 Sep 2013 15:57:24 20,752 posts
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    MrTomFTW wrote:
    meme wrote:
    mrpon wrote:
    @BeardedGamerUK You've just described the typical British holidaymaker.
    How to get a foreigner to understand English when on holiday:

    1) Speak slower
    2) Shout
    My auntie (dad's sister) lives in Mexico and you've just described how he talks on the phone to her. You don't have to shout Dad, that's the magic of telephones.
    My dad holds the telephone out at an angle: receiver to ear, mouthpiece a good 45 degrees or more away from his face.

    He then shouts into it. I have absolutely no idea why the fuck he does it, except 'dad'.
  • DodgyPast 13 Sep 2013 15:57:35 8,333 posts
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    Grax wrote:
    And don't forget magic hand gestures which automatically make it obvious what you want like doing the scribble motion on your hand to represent wanting the bill (whilst saying can I have the biiiiiiiillllll)
    Got to disagree, that works well across a crowded restaurant and is far better than shouting.

    twelveways... You've just described the most common conversation I'll have with a taxi driver. Though they'll normally ask how long I've lived here, what job I do and if I have a gf / wife. Probably then go on to complain about the traffic ;-)

    With my Thai friends just chat about normal shit and take the piss out of each other.
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