End of the English language as we know it Page 2

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  • twelveways 28 Aug 2013 09:29:25 4,197 posts
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    Water [n] A big blue wobbly thing that mermaids live in.
  • MrSensible 28 Aug 2013 09:59:57 25,382 posts
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    sega wrote:
    I actually don't understand how "click and collect" is a word. If you don't know what it means you can go to "click" and find that out. Don't know what "collect" means? Well, that's in there too. What's this "and" in the middle? I'll look that up too.

    It isn't a word, it's just three words put together. Are they going to start adding sentences?
    This. It's the worst of the lot, because it ISN'T A WORD. Like the others, loathe the others... whatever. At least they are single words.
  • FWB 28 Aug 2013 10:59:32 45,627 posts
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    It's a set expression which when said, due to connected speech, sounds like one word.
  • neilka 28 Aug 2013 11:07:41 16,539 posts
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    Some may even say three words.

    BAAANG!!!!! EXPLOTION!!!!!

  • FWB 28 Aug 2013 11:09:06 45,627 posts
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    No. When you say it, it sounds like one. Nobody says "click and collect", they say "clickancollect".
  • FWB 28 Aug 2013 11:11:18 45,627 posts
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    It's not pushing it. It's called connected speech. You do it all the time and it is why foreigners struggle to understand natives.

    But the point is that as a set expression it can't be taken apart. It has a specific meaning and context.

    Edited by FWB at 11:14:29 28-08-2013
  • Deleted user 28 August 2013 11:13:04
    I say click and collect. I assumed it was only the specials that were capable of making it one word.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 28 Aug 2013 11:39:04 39,792 posts
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    He was masturbating!

    I haven't seen "There's Something About Mary" in YEARS but Frank and Beans brought it all back.

    Edited by MrTomFTW at 11:39:55 28-08-2013

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  • Deleted user 28 August 2013 11:46:23
    FWB wrote:
    It's not pushing it. It's called connected speech. You do it all the time and it is why foreigners struggle to understand natives.

    But the point is that as a set expression it can't be taken apart. It has a specific meaning and context.
    I don't think click-and-collect is so idiomatic that it's now a "phraseme" and therefore can't be deconstructed. Its meaning is still basically the same as the individual words that make up the expression. It's not like "when pigs fly" or whatever.

    And besides, the phrase becoming an amalgam has nothing to do with being a "set expression", which is really what you're talking about.
  • Salaman 28 Aug 2013 11:46:31 19,621 posts
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    If click and collect isn't a word, then surely neither is rock and roll. Some old fogey's probably sat grumbling over their coffee at the local mom and pop diner about people calling it "rocknroll".
    "You rock and you roll. It's not one word!"
  • Spong 28 Aug 2013 11:52:47 525 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    RyanDS wrote:
    What the hell is twerking?
    Its where you jiggle your ass on a homeboys crotch
    Where I come from, that's called bumming.
  • Alastair 28 Aug 2013 11:54:54 16,407 posts
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    Get with the times, grandad!
  • sega 28 Aug 2013 12:04:38 908 posts
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    @Salaman Aye, true I suppose. It seems a bit weirder with click and collect though because, with rock and roll, the meaning for rock and the meaning for roll have completely different meanings to the joined word. Click and collect just means the same thing if reading the words joined or separate.

    Oh I don't know. I find this whole following the rules of a book that can't be changed thing to be ridiculous anyway. Be it a dictionary, the bible or a constitution.
  • Rusty_M 28 Aug 2013 12:22:27 4,944 posts
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    Ashleyfiddes wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    The English language getting new words is a bad thing now?
    Not at all. However, words should only be included if they are going to enhance the English language. Not to validate the stupidity of youth.
    That's not how language works. It's an organic thing which evolves with use.

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.
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  • Deleted user 28 August 2013 12:24:57
    Anyone who complains about language being eroded by youth culture is in all likelihood a total hypocrite. I'd be very surprised if such people had never used words like "yeah" or "cool" or whatever. The young have always been responsible for driving the evolution of language, and rightly so.
  • Ashleyfiddes 28 Aug 2013 12:36:40 980 posts
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    @kalel I understand what your saying and It probably is hypocritical of me. Having said that, I could honestly say that myself as a child really was an idiot and If it was possible I would go back in time and slap him at least once a year.

    I do understand the evolution of the English language and the need to continually allow change is great, I just wish they wouldn't look to children etc. for inspiration
  • Whizzo 28 Aug 2013 12:41:32 43,370 posts
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    So I was in a shop and at the click and collect counter someone was twerking, they even took a selfie with their phablet while doing it!

    Give me some sort of certificate for my amazing English skills.

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  • Salaman 28 Aug 2013 12:46:52 19,621 posts
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    I'm not sure whether to vom or squee at that.
  • Whizzo 28 Aug 2013 12:52:10 43,370 posts
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    Have to admit I think Deckard is probably correct.

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  • Alastair 28 Aug 2013 12:55:09 16,407 posts
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    Deckard is evolving our language before our very eyes!
  • Load_2.0 28 Aug 2013 12:58:43 19,671 posts
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    He can't be, he is not a yoof.

    Just a dried up old husk.
  • Megapocalypse 28 Aug 2013 13:01:38 5,525 posts
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    Maybe I'm just out of touch but I've never heard any of these terms being used, except by people laughing at / criticising they're existence or by journalists telling me how widespread they're use is.
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