Building my first rig - need advice about the parts

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  • thevictorhugo1992 30 Jul 2013 12:59:12 11 posts
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    Hi everyone,

    I've been thinking about building a new PC for quite a while and I have decided that I might build it in a really near future.

    That said, I've begun looking aroud here and there about what would be the best parts for my future PC (knowing that I would do nearly everything with, going from simple web browsing to heavy gaming).

    Now, i have an idea about what parts to buy but I'm not sure if it's the best build.

    Here is the PC I've thought to build:

    - i7 4770k
    - ASUS z87-PRO
    - CORSAIR Vengeance 8 GB DDR1600
    - NOCTUA NH-U12P
    - FRACTAL DESIGN Define R4 Titanium Grey
    - Be Quiet 700W Straight Power E9
    - Samsung 840 Pro Series 256 GB
    - MSI GTX 780 - N780 TF 3GD5/OC
    - LITEON iHBS112

    I've chosen those parts with the following conditions:

    - Must be silent
    - It cannot have a too high power consumption (therefore, SLI and Crossfire to be avoided)
    - Every game must be played with very great to best graphics in the next couple of years
    - Must be future proof
    - I'm thinking about studying Microtechnique, at EPFL, in Switzerland (Hi, fellow swiss), so I might need a rig powerful enough to plan out elaborate projects.

    And there you have it. I really hope you can help decide whether or not this is the best PC for me.

    I thank you in advance for your help.

    P.S. : I'm a total newbie in this.
    P.S. 2: I've already modded my Xbox 360, so i mounting the PC in itself is not a big issue.
    P.S. 3: Money is not a problem (budget up to 2000 CHF)
    P.S. 4: Just wanted to make enough P.S. to show how excited I am about the upcomming PS4. LoL

    Edited by thevictorhugo1992 at 09:24:38 31-07-2013

    Edited by thevictorhugo1992 at 09:30:44 31-07-2013
  • Zizoo 30 Jul 2013 13:00:42 8,274 posts
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    You crazy!
  • Roddles 30 Jul 2013 13:03:07 1,830 posts
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    Swap the i7-4770k for the i5-4670k. Performance is the same and you save £100. Hyperthreading is only really useful for video encoding and such, and even then you're only saving seconds on an encode to be perfectly honest. Spend that extra £100 on something else.

    ASUS make the quietest graphics cards around thanks to their non reference cooler (better than MSI's too).

    Edited by Roddles at 13:03:45 30-07-2013
  • neilka 30 Jul 2013 13:22:14 15,844 posts
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    where to begin
  • LeoliansBro 30 Jul 2013 13:26:54 43,747 posts
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    I know, right? At the very start you've got a real bottleneck when matching the NH-U12P to something with the potential for peak drop off of the iHBS112. You're better off with a YT1300 as that will permit real time framerate patch updating boosted right up to the teraflop range. I'd get a Red Mercury injector as well and don't forget to uprate the fan. Something like a Typhoon should do it, it's a big son of a bitch!

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • LeoliansBro 30 Jul 2013 13:32:43 43,747 posts
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    Seriously, I'm surprised more people don't opt for the YT1300. It may not look like much but it's got it where it counts.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • monkman76 30 Jul 2013 13:35:41 4,163 posts
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    I googled it. You massive nerd!
  • craigy Staff 30 Jul 2013 13:36:41 7,584 posts
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    18-wheeler?
  • neilka 30 Jul 2013 13:38:02 15,844 posts
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    Get a couple of Reversible Sedgewicks in there just to be sure.

    DO NOT USE NON-REVERSIBLE SEDGEWICKS!
  • pauleyc 30 Jul 2013 13:41:05 4,447 posts
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    The '1300 is certainly cool, built like a steakhouse yet handles like a bistro. But personally I'd prefer the YT2000, excellent modern symmetrical design.
  • OptimusPube 30 Jul 2013 13:41:23 2,938 posts
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    Don't forget to but it all together with a left handed hammer.

    You better watch out.
    You better beware.
    Albert said E=MC²

  • Bremenacht 30 Jul 2013 13:44:52 17,777 posts
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    craigy wrote:
    18-wheeler?
    Ahhh think you've got ah 10-1 going on there buddy. Bear in a chair on your tail. Recommend you 10-50 on that cpu paste.
  • LeoliansBro 30 Jul 2013 13:45:04 43,747 posts
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    pauleyc wrote:
    The '1300 is certainly cool, built like a steakhouse yet handles like a bistro. But personally I'd prefer the YT2000, excellent modern symmetrical design.
    Too small, too derivative, too focussed on games. The YT1300 is a classic.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • graysonavich 30 Jul 2013 13:45:24 7,320 posts
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    Seems a fairly legit thread for teh PC Hardware section.

    Can't really say much more than what Rod has already suggested. Damn you rich people!
  • thevictorhugo1992 30 Jul 2013 13:55:03 11 posts
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    @ZizouFC Not really crazy, just ignorant. As I said, I'm really new in this and I thought that maybe this PC might be overkill.

    @Roddles Swapping to i5-4670k, then. Is ASUS really more silent than the others? Should I pick up the ASUS GTX 780 3GD5 instead of the MSI one?

    @graysonavich Not really rich. Just a long timed saved money

    @to the others Was that rig I was planning to mount that much of a crazy overkill for you to talk about spaceship components and such? (understood the joke about the rig)

    I am realizing that I have a lot to learn here. (slowpoke)

    Edited by thevictorhugo1992 at 09:33:20 31-07-2013
  • Bremenacht 30 Jul 2013 14:08:09 17,777 posts
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    thevictorhugo1992 wrote:
    @Roddles Swapping to i5-4670k, then. Is ASUS really more silent than the others? Should I pick up the ASUS GTX 780 3GD5 instead of the MSI one?
    If you're going for a 780, take a look a the Palit Super jetstream:

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_gtx_780_super_jetstream_review,28.html
    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/57437-palit-geforce-gtx-780-super-jetstream/?page=12

    Cool, quiet, Titanesque performance and reviews well. Ideal for a one-GPU-only box. If price and goodies suit, of course.
  • Deckard1 30 Jul 2013 14:15:15 27,675 posts
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    Oil mining seems needlessly complicated these datys.

    Hush you ponce

  • pauleyc 30 Jul 2013 14:16:47 4,447 posts
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    It seems this Asus card is also quiet, only 2 fans as opposed to Palit's 3:

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_780_directcu_ii_review,1.html
  • Roddles 30 Jul 2013 14:18:03 1,830 posts
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    The ASUS Direct CU II cards are more silent than any of the others, and that's coming from someone who's previously used the MSI Twin Frozr cards.

    I'd do some googling around to find the absolute quietest PSU, as in my experience that will always be your loudest component. I can't comment on the one you've chosen sadly.
  • Fake_Blood 30 Jul 2013 14:23:42 4,165 posts
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    I just got the EVGA 780 SC ACX.

    It's fast and quiet.
  • pauleyc 30 Jul 2013 14:33:16 4,447 posts
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    One other thing - personally I'd go for a smaller SSD (just for the system partition and 2-3 selected games) and a larger conventional HDD for proper storage/main Steam library.
  • Carlo 30 Jul 2013 15:23:39 17,994 posts
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    thevictorhugo1992 wrote:
    @ZizouFC Not really crazy, just ignorant. As I said, I'm really new in this and I thought that maybe this rig might be overkill.
    Depends on your budget and requirements. I'd stop calling it a rig though!

    I agree with the i5-4xxxk over an i7-4xxxk for the reasons stated. I would ALSO suggest being even more drastic and going for a gen 3 cpu. Don't they overclock higher so you get virtually the same speed for a lot less money?

    Saying that, the kind of numbers you're throwing at your PC, I doubt you're bothered about costs too much.

    PSN ID: Djini

  • neilka 30 Jul 2013 15:26:45 15,844 posts
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    Make sure your rig lights up so everyone knows how icy hot it is.
  • Carlo 30 Jul 2013 15:47:38 17,994 posts
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    pauleyc wrote:
    One other thing - personally I'd go for a smaller SSD (just for the system partition and 2-3 selected games) and a larger conventional HDD for proper storage/main Steam library.
    Read this: http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/How-it-Works-Intel-SSD-Caching-148/

    For the love of god please use intel's Rapid Storage Technology (iRST http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/CS-020784.htm) which will uses a small (60GB) SSD drive as a cache for a larger spinning HDD. It works phenomenally well and intel have done a crap job of making people aware of it, but a wonderful job at making this work.

    Why anyone is buying a large SSD over doing something like this for a desktop is beyond me! Throw your money at the fastest small SSD drive you can get IMO. Doesn't OCZ's enterprise SSD currently hold the crown?

    [Sorry if I sound like an intel shareholder!]

    Edited by Carlo at 15:51:11 30-07-2013

    PSN ID: Djini

  • thevictorhugo1992 30 Jul 2013 16:16:02 11 posts
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    Mmmmh. So if you all had to choose the components for my gaming PC, what would you choose? And explain why, as I am interested to hear your opinions.
  • Bremenacht 30 Jul 2013 16:36:14 17,777 posts
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    Your Samsung pro will probably be a lot faster than any cache drive. If you've got the money to spend on it, then do so. Cache drives (and hybrids) are a good way to much better SSD-like performance without spending a lot.

    Having said that, yeah, I'm not seeing a large HDD on your list of parts. You shouldn't do without one. That 256GB will fill rapidly.
  • thevictorhugo1992 30 Jul 2013 17:13:17 11 posts
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    @Bremenacht Oh, that's because I have a 1 TB 3.5" HDD and a 1 TB USB 3.0 WD Passport to cover any of my big storage needs. But since I have gone from 4770k to 4670k, i'll buy an extra HDD to put in my PC. Which HDD do you recommand?
  • Bremenacht 30 Jul 2013 17:23:54 17,777 posts
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    Oh, I wouldn't recommend anything in particular - maybe someone who's built a desktop recently can.

    Personal preference would be for slow (5200rpm), cool fat jobbies, if I had a fast SSD doing the fast work, but that's me. Maybe another 1TB drive of the same type and mirror them or something.
  • thevictorhugo1992 31 Jul 2013 08:50:33 11 posts
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    - i5 4670k
    - ASUS z87-PRO
    - CORSAIR Vengeance 8 GB DDR1600
    - NOCTUA NH-U12P
    - FRACTAL DESIGN Define R4 Titanium Grey
    - Be Quiet 700W Straight Power E9
    - Samsung 840 Pro Series 256 GB
    - Secondary HDD
    - Palit Super jetstream GTX 780
    - LITEON iHBS112

    This is pretty much the PC I'm thinking to build now. But I'm still hesitating for the secondary HDD. Does anyone know about a quiet, low-power one?

    Edited by thevictorhugo1992 at 13:18:05 31-07-2013
  • Shikasama 31 Jul 2013 08:53:35 6,742 posts
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    Something really irritates me when people say 'rig' when talking about their pc.
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