Thought this should have a thread of it's own really. Latest gameplay vid from E3:|
I'll wait for the demo, doesn't look wildly different to me. Slightly better animations, but still not up to FIFA's standard. All in the gameplay as ever.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2014
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Hmmmm thats mildly dissapointing. Gameplay looks almost the same as it is this year...
Yeah, doesn't look like much to me. But we shall see....
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The Gamespot live demo that ug linked to in the previous thread, starts at 6m:
Edited by freedumb at 19:17:35 13-06-2013
The game just looks sooo much better, 2013 was almost there, but this looks so much better, don't know how people can't see it!
The animations, the way they flow, look how the ball looks totally free.
The graphics look a lot brighter, they've actually modelled the unique Bayern arena tunnel! The flares and confetti are back.
I've not seen the thing that ruined 2013 for me which was the defending AI player seemingly reading your controller input, and matching your moves homing in on you, or that horrible thing where you're trapped in that vile animation where your guy is holding the defender off.
Custom camera is there, I hated wide view on 2013, I couldn't turn off the camera swing which limited my field of view, so thank G that's fixed.
The best news of all though is THE HEXAGON IS BACK!
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Looks fantastic, the animations are definitely next gen, despite the game being current gen. There are more gameplay demos on wenb, all just as good.
Gone from meh to fuck me, day one in the space of ten minutes.
it still looks like the players and ball move in one of 8 different directions only.
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the animation looks nice, players move more realistically. was expecting it to look a bit better overall than that though
People who have played the E3 version are calling it the best football game of this gen.
Also LEAGUE MODE IS BACK!
For the last 9 months everyone has wanted news on the latest iteration of Pro Evolution Soccer. And now more than ever, the news that has been unveiled to us shows that the Evolution part of PES has finally come to pass.
I am one of the unlucky ones, not being at E3 this year means that I have not had the chance to put my hands on what some are calling the best football game on this current generation of consoles. However, the hype around PES 2014 has rammed up to another level after their E3 trailer was revealed. This, as well as some stunning screenshots, puts to bed the unrest and skepticism that the teaser trailer, original screenshots and lack of next-gen, had caused for some.
From what we have seen graphically the FOX Engine lives up to the power it has been touted to have. We have never seen anything like it on current gen, and who knows how much more potential it has for next gen. Faces look fantastic, with skin textures bordering on perfection. The stadiums are a stand out point, Konami have released many images of the Allianz Arena with the intention of showing off their beautiful re-creation and we can safely say, if all stadiums are like this, we are in for a stunning visual experience in PES 2014.
Our men in LA, Gari and Asim, have had the chance to gets hands-on with the game and their reviews have been immensely positive. Goalkeepers have been rebuilt from the ground up with seemingly more urgency, completely new player animations, double the amount of players with Player ID, shooting has been refined and much more. We have seen a fair amount of gamers at E3 shout out that while it is completely different to 2013, it still feels and captures the PES essence.
Licenses have also had a bit of love at E3 with Brazilian Konami Director, Anibal Vera, giving away that the Argentine and Chile leagues are coming to Pro Evo. Massive news for South American fans and in my opinion for all PES fans, remember, any new licenses are good licenses!
Massive news to come recently also included the return of the greatly missed League Mode! Confirmed by Kei Masuda, it was removed from 2013. The fans spoke however & Konami have listened. League Mode is back in 2014 and this is bound to please many who were disheartened by its absence in 2013.
Other than League Mode making its return, we still await news on Master League and Edit Mode improvements, as well as any news about Online. However for the moment, Konami have succeeded in wetting our appetite, ready for the main course.
Edited by uglygamer at 15:28:54 14-06-2013
Yes, league mode!
Great stuff, much rather have this than a rushed next gen game with half the features missing and worse gameplay.
2 and a half hour long PES 14 podcast http://8bitplayground.com/2013/06/16/the-winning-eleven-show-the-power-of-fox/
Notes of what they discussed. Its unreadable
Impressed with the graphics, they reckon it looks better than PES 2013
Game feels very different. Different level of freedom and timing to the passes, and the flow of the game.
much more realistic pace than PES 2013. Slower more methodical game.
They were stunned, everything feels new, completely different game way bigger difference between 14 and 13, compared to 12 and 13.
feels like a 2K game- complement
They cant wait for people to play
Gameplay Looks faster on youtube, than it really is.
Videos don't do game justice
THEY ARE EXCITED blown away by the game- stunned
Game is what they've been asking for. Hardcore game, you'll have to relearn.
They went back to PES 2013, cant play it any more now looks like a PS2 game.
TruBallTEC- The BALL IS ABSOLUTELY FREE (best news IMO)
Ball never felt stuck to the feet.
Players sometimes even run past the ball and leave it behind.
Crosses are not automatically won any more defenders and attackers fight for the ball and stretch for it but can miss it
First touch controls, very impressive, animation is cool, extremely important you get the ball under control before deciding what to do with it
Ball physics- Spin on the ball is great, the players sometimes find it difficult to control, especially the balls from the air, they use use different parts of body to control.
Realistic ball movement through the air
2-3 players fighting for the ball, doesn't look they are in complete control, midfield battles because of loose ball
2 footed control they can shift the ball from one leg to another real quickly to get away from tackles.
Animations are smooth and realistic, like watching a real match the way everything flows
FULL 360 DEGREE CONTROL-
You can move the ball in any direction etc.
Players fight for possession using their arms and body weight
Players move their arms to keep to keep defenders away
Foot more planted, more sense of weight, ie. changing direction affects the way you control the ball etc.
sliding animations is awesome. THEY ACTUALLY Slide, once they worked out out how it works they used it a lot.
Weight shifting with right stick you shift into defenders to protect possession
tonnes of new features
Massive learning curve- IT doesn't play like PREVIOUS PES.
No relearn like all the previous pES. ITS A BRAND NEW GAME. Anything that worked before will most likely not work now
Reference yourself to the real game, and use that sense in PES 14 (sounds Amazing, just how I want it)
Players sometimes jump into each other to win ball, even in the air.
Animation wise being taken up a notch, including keepers, i,e keeper yelling at defenders
Team play They didn't mess around with the team tactics. You can now send two players on runs
Combination play- types of runs are much different from one team to another
too slow to react to free kicks. lack of awareness? keepers get hands to the ball but it still goes in at least happened twice.
Everyone complained about this.
In general gameplay they are very good, only 2 goals in open play.
Keeper stretches out with one arm and made a stunning save, but then later weak shot spilt, and a little slow to react.
Other times reaction really well. Animation shot was too hard but got on his knees and pushed it to the side and not spill it in front of him
Solid enough, confident about the keepers. I know the keepers in PES 2013 was a problem for me, tehy were awful at times
Slide tackle is so rewarding- Defender completely stretches out if its required.
Quite a few animations for slide tackles
Intelligence of the defenders was pretty good. but in the box they were not great, slow to react.
Defensive awareness needs to be brought up, ie on rebounds etc. (aaaaaarghhhhhh)
Awareness in general play is a bit lacking including keepers strikers.
Double x tackle, they go for the ball wherever it is, and not lunge for the player. Always go for the ball. They like it.
They react well to passes and try and intercept. They were disappointed with this in PES 13
Jockey for the ball bit slow, but the whole game is slower, They dont move as fast when jockeying.
defending overall a step forward. Able to intercept better, pretty solid, but wants general awareness of players to be improved.
sometimes defenders try to get the ball even when they have no chance of reaching it
very solid, very free, theres air on passes, can still ping pong but more
difficult to PP alway to the penalty area, easier for defenders to defend against.
Everything flowed well and not frustrating
Through passes are great, lot more freedom than before. You can pass the ball where you couldn't before, because of 360 degree controls
They tried 0 on passing assist, feels really free. 4 bar is not assisted as before.
through ball has separate assist levels. Didnt feel cheap.
Can play different styles, doesnt feel restrictive., i,e long balls, or midfield play, etc, flows very realistically, Ball is its own entity really opens up the game
crosses felt great, weight to it, felt control over crosses, but didnt experience that crosses that much.
Over hitting and under hitting through balls a lot, difficult.
Passing not on rails
didnt try 1-2 with lob return
All the animations on shooting improved.
Difficult to shoot, felt free, maybe not on assisted
lot of shots just wide,long shots are difficult.
Easier to hit lower shots, to hit higher shots you have to fill the bar a bit more.
Headers feels less auotmated than previous PES- lots of defensive headers, different animations, solid contact with headers.
Sprint dribbling can be difficult.
Have to think about dribbling movements, cant freely go where you want, you have to create space, very impressed with dribbling system
When you open space for yourself, its very rewarding, you have to plan what to do next not just use sprint button and go.
some of the right stick moves wasnt working properly
if you move the left stick lightly, theyll take little touches on the ball
, keeping it under control, big learning curve.
good balance between defence and attack, maybe easier to defend
penalty for perfect tackle
some bad calls.
Quick throw ins
Keeper can tell defenders to move up or back
keepers can do fake throws, no more loopy balloon style throws, Direct.
Right stick to pan the camera, left stick too add curl to the ball, guide where the ball to go . 1st try on free kick goal- TOO EASY
player switching could be a bit more responsive
Responsiveness needs to be tightened up (everyone complained)
TOTAL Play time about about an hour and a half
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Sounds good. I got the last two FIFA's on PC but EA are fucking PC owners over so I think I'll go with this even if I get a console copy.
Looking forward to this, anyone know if they are releasing an early demo like the last few years?
Probably get both as usual, but a lot of the stuff above just looks like broken stuff from PES 2013 that has been fixed (and yet they still haven't fixed the keepers? Seriously?)
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For the first time since ISS98 I'm in absolutely no rush whatsoever to get a new PES, think 13 will last me a fair while longer yet.
My main gripe is that headers seem unnecessarily hard to both win and direct, but I can overlook that.
Also, I wish they'd bring back the free-roam replay mode rather than the 4 set cameras, none of which are particularly good, but that's been the case for the last 5 years or so I doubt they'll go back to that
On the pacing side of things, the demo was also much slower, more realistic than the finished article last year. In fact, for me, PES 2013 v1 was better than the released product. It had more bugs, but the game was so much more realistic and enjoyable than the full game.
I hope what they're getting to play now resembles the final product. Konami have a history of quite drastically changing the game speed, AI and such between demo version and release, more than any game I've ever played.
Very true, I've enjoyed the demos more than the full release almost every time on PS3, they must get some really bad feedback from donks who say it's too hard and too slow or something, I hope they stick to their guns this time
Cheers for that breakdown ug, I never listen to podcasts.
Glad it's a return to a more hardcore game, I think Konami listened to feedback too much recently, probably from people who preferred FIFA, since the majority did after all recently.
Seems like they're rturning to being the more hardcore game which is a relief.
Edited by Stockings at 08:45:14 18-06-2013
Bloody hope so. Used to love PES and while 2013 was better than anything since the PS2 era, it still felt like two different games at times.
Where's @DarthKebab when you need him for some early opinions?!
Only things I don't like are the new free-kicj syestem and the horrible faces lol
Looks amazing, but yeah they need to change the free kick system and get rid of the dotted line. It looks like it'll be easy as scoring penalties.
Edited by uglygamer at 18:17:31 28-06-2013
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It sounds really good, but they really need to improve the Master League IMO. The last PES was better than the last FIFA I reckon, but I played a hell of a lot more of FIFA just because the career mode is actually really good.
Just confirmed we are now able to change clubs and manage National teams in ML about bloody time!
Hexagons, League Mode, offline co-op League Mode, V nice, although all those apart from changing clubs were in the PS2 games :/
I can't imagine this game being anything less than amzing, wd Konami, with this and GTAV who needs the nextgen consoles!?
edit: they're saying in evoweb the International Challenge is back
I love the sound of Heart, and the crowd reacting differently due to their nationality.
Surely than means Prem clubs want you to attack quickly all the time, and other countries want to see some passing and skills.
Hopefully it also means you can take the sting out of the other teams momentum by passing it around at the back when the crowd are uring your opponents on.
Maybe I'm expecting too much, I need a lie down lol
Edited by Stockings at 10:39:34 05-07-2013
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On paper at least pro evo seems to be getting its act together. Fingers crossed it improves further on the good strides made in pes 2013
i dont play to play ping pong fifa again if i can help it
So, feel free to take with a pinch of salt the opinion of someone that works in an industry where contrariansim is heavily incentivised, but at this admittedly early stage PES looks to be, aside from all the whistles and baubles, a purer, more refined expression of the sport, at its simplest, than its moneyed rival. We've become adept at describing what's good about football games each year - perhaps it's about time we remembered what made them fun in the first place.