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  • DodgyPast 20 Aug 2013 04:00:02 8,333 posts
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    TheRealBadabing wrote:
    And now they are detaining the partners of journalists associated with Snowdon. For nine hours, just because they can.

    Using anti-terrorism laws.
    Who ever thought they'd use any of these laws to harass law abiding citizens who happen to publish anything they disapprove of?
  • Tonka 20 Aug 2013 06:52:51 19,840 posts
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    Fucked Up

    Let's fight those horrible islamists who just grab people off the streets for no reason at all and censor free speech by... grabbing people off the streets and censor free speech!

    THAT'LL TEACH THEM!

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Bremenacht 20 Aug 2013 09:05:12 15,753 posts
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    Ridiculous, isn't it. The bit about the Macbook is almost unbelievable.

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  • Megapocalypse 20 Aug 2013 09:49:11 5,228 posts
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    I suspect this will end badly for someone, though I doubt it will be someone who deserves it.

    Edited by Megapocalypse at 09:57:56 20-08-2013
  • Bremenacht 18 Oct 2013 12:42:08 15,753 posts
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  • Bremenacht 24 Oct 2013 23:13:51 15,753 posts
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    NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders after US official handed over contacts

    All over the news, so no surprises here. What I'm finding deeply ironic is how this is happening and is seen in Government as being largely Ok, and yet paranoia over the Chinese was rampant. Chinese kit in our telecoms networks! Chips made in China in our network equipment! Chinese stealing secrets!

    Well, are we going to have uproar over American kit in our telecoms networks now, or US-designed stuff in our networks? How about devious Americans stealing commercial secrets?

    Last last one is -of course- fine, because the UK keeps nothing from the Americans anyway, but European states may have a problem with it. The US stealing commercial plans, product designs, trade positions? Passing them onto US commercial interests? I'll have a good laugh if the EU mandates against US commercial espionage, and includes the UK in that for having an American hand up our arse.

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  • TheSaint 24 Oct 2013 23:16:03 13,629 posts
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    Makes the press hacking Hugh Grant's phone look pretty trivial.
  • RightBean 24 Oct 2013 23:38:41 602 posts
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  • Bremenacht 7 Jan 2014 23:40:29 15,753 posts
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    NSA unable to deny spying on Congress

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  • Bremenacht 27 Jan 2014 02:12:00 15,753 posts
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    Snowden alleges NSA were carrying out industrial espionage. He cannot prove intent of course, but it's no more or less likely than the allegations that the Chinese did the same thing. What stupid, careless cunts. Maybe European firms will start to distrust American kit now, fearing backdoor mechanisms. Maybe that's why the Americans prohibited so much Chinese kit - because they knew themselves how vulnerabilities can be included.

    A few years ago, such ideas were definitely in the tin-foil-hat bracket. Now, they may even seem likely.

    If this commercial espionage thing develops, I'd expect Airbus to pop up and talk of legal action of some sort. Damages.

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  • MetalDog 27 Jan 2014 03:59:39 23,706 posts
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    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • MetalDog 27 Jan 2014 04:09:43 23,706 posts
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    *hits EG's mobile view with a hammer*

    The 'tin foil hat' haha, ridiculous! stuff is almost certainly heavily encouraged by various governments to make accusations against them appear less credible.

    The thing is, a brief glance at history shows that our government and the US government is regularly capable of really absurd, stupid, moustache-twirling evil, so I'm not sure why anyone ever trusts them without plentiful evidence that they're telling the truth - which is often absent.

    I remember all the fuss about the 'Clipper Chip' back in Clinton's day. Basically a US agency back door that they wanted in every computer. People said 'no' - but why does anyone trust their systems? Their entire MO is 'we want, we take'.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Bremenacht 8 Feb 2014 21:34:25 15,753 posts
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    Just watching 'Enemy of the State' (1998) at the moment. All the stuff about about surveillance must have seemed so far fetched at the time.

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  • Pinky_Floyd 8 Feb 2014 21:45:52 6,421 posts
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    @Bremenacht Snap.  Also watching.  For the umpteenth time.
  • RightBean 8 Feb 2014 22:03:55 602 posts
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    Let's face it most of us would take edward snowdens 200k surveilling job in hawaii if we were offered it tomorrow
  • faux_carnation 8 Feb 2014 22:06:07 8,483 posts
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    RightBean wrote:
    Let's face it most of us would take edward snowdens 200k surveilling job in hawaii if we were offered it tomorrow
    and his girlfriend, tbh.
  • Bremenacht 20 Mar 2014 11:53:10 15,753 posts
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    Berners-Lee & Snowden TED talk, referencing Berners-Lee's calls for an Internet 'Bill of Rights'.


    TED source.

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  • Dougs 20 Mar 2014 12:14:53 64,891 posts
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    Interesting, cheers - will check that out
  • Bremenacht 24 Mar 2014 18:14:26 15,753 posts
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    Brace yourself: irony incoming.

    N.S.A. Breached Chinese Servers Seen as Security Threat

    The circle is complete!

    Edited by Bremenacht at 18:14:36 24-03-2014

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