Depressive/Suicidal Metal - Shining and all that, and not only Metal Page 3

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  • Tom_Servo 1 May 2013 15:14:46 17,390 posts
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    I'm not a huge metal guy, but would Xasthur fit the bill? Seems we're in niche territory a bit.
  • Dr.Haggard 1 May 2013 16:08:13 4,148 posts
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    @RedSparrows /points at whole thread title :cool:

    Sure we're getting pretty far removed from the likes of Burzum and Graveland, but I think we're well into OP-approved derailment territory already.

    If we're strictly talking 'suicidal' as per the thread title I may have to dig a little deeper, but I'm really not in the mood to get quite that melancholy today!
  • Beetroot_Bertie 1 May 2013 19:54:32 292 posts
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    And because of Father Ted... :)

  • riz23 2 May 2013 20:33:52 1,226 posts
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    oh wow that is going off on one. I demand more Black/Doom/Post Metal!
  • RedSparrows 2 May 2013 21:18:27 22,212 posts
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    Boris!
  • Beetroot_Bertie 2 May 2013 21:28:25 292 posts
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    I guess this can bridge the gap between Radiohead and the Doomy stuff. It always manages to hit me in the gut and makes me think of loved ones passed.



    And a beautifully melancholic one from Arab Strap...



    Edited by Beetroot_Bertie at 21:35:22 02-05-2013
  • DrStrangelove 3 May 2013 00:41:17 3,574 posts
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    A very atmospheric track by maybe the most troubled artist I know:




    He was the vocalist of Silencer, which you may find laughable, but I found very intense. Pure desperation.



    Edited by DrStrangelove at 01:00:07 03-05-2013
  • FabricatedLunatic 3 May 2013 00:41:26 12,996 posts
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    My final contribution. Esoteric - Dissident

    Like a drug-fueled nightmare... then waking up to find the apocalypse raging outside but not minding because, thank fuck, it's gonna be all over soon.

    And Secret of the Secret from the same album. Like DrHaggard, my favourite second half of a song would be CoL's Dark City, Dead Man; but this would be a close second. 8 minutes on is just... yes.
  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 17:57:37 3,574 posts
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    Lifelover - Cancertid. Vocals are a bit too clichéd for my taste, but aside from that, I love it. Catchy.

  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 17:59:56 3,574 posts
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    @FabricatedLunatic

    Love it, thanks!
  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 18:07:20 3,574 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:

    He personally considers the Fragile to be even bleaker from a conceptual standpoint, as TDW is about stripping your life down piece by piece and rejecting it all, whereas the Fragile starts at the bottom, attempts to rebuild that life and come to terms with everything with moderate success, but ultimately ends up worse than before - the album begins with "Somewhat damaged" and ends with "Ripe (with Decay)".
    I'm a bit surprised there, but it makes sense. I think I read an interview back in the time when Trent seemed to be more positive and exchanging drugs for yoghurt (which is depressing in its own way, of course), and lyrics like "we're in this together now, we will make it through somehow" or "I won't let you fall apart" are his most (only?) uplifting songs.

    But yes, it's quite apparent that it didn't last long.

    Year Zero is just a bit too political for me. I'm not against being political, I am all with him on the matters "discussed" on that album, it is the best political album I know, but I found it to be a bit lacking on the intense personal part that's the trademark of NIN. It also contains the imo worst NIN song, Capital G. I don't know what he's trying to do there with his vocals, I just know it doesn't work.
  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 18:12:35 3,574 posts
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    warlockuk wrote:
    I wouldn't really call Varg a Nazi as such, though he does have certain nationalistic views and did come out with some utter crap while he was in jail.
    Well, at one point he got himself an oldschool nazi hairdo and called himself Varg Quisling Vikernes, after Vidkun Quisling, back in the times boss of Norway's NS party and the nazi occupants' puppet regime. So I do think he's somewhat fond of nazism.

    Edited by DrStrangelove at 18:13:04 04-05-2013
  • thelzdking 4 May 2013 18:15:08 4,356 posts
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    He changes his mind about what he is every five minutes.
  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 18:22:07 3,574 posts
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    Graveland wrote:

    To suggest that it does is to argue that humans are one dimensional beings.
    Very true. And even if I think Hellhammer is a fucking tit, I hugely enjoy his drumming on everything he drummed on.

    I guess we're going even more fundamental here. We always like to see others as one-dimensional, some of us even ourselves, but that's far from reality. I guess it's human nature to pigeonhole everything because that's quicker and easier than trying to see the whole picture. The more thoughtful see themselves not in black and white, but the drive to see others in black and white is very strong.

    I'm more willing to see the shades of grey than almost anyone I know, but you reminded me that I'm guilty of it too. Wish I could +1 you here.
  • DrStrangelove 4 May 2013 18:23:03 3,574 posts
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    @thelzdking

    Of course, still he doesn't seem too opposed to nazism.
  • Beetroot_Bertie 5 May 2013 11:23:08 292 posts
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    I'm not quite sure why I forgot about them earlier but a happy little ditty from Swans...



    Edited by Beetroot_Bertie at 11:25:29 05-05-2013
  • thelzdking 5 May 2013 14:01:59 4,356 posts
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  • thelzdking 5 May 2013 14:02:42 4,356 posts
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    @DrStrangelove
    Nobody said that he was.

    Swans are a great band.
  • RedSparrows 5 May 2013 14:39:10 22,212 posts
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    Swans/Angels of Light do a very good line in depressing, abrasive, music, yup.
  • thelzdking 5 May 2013 17:28:12 4,356 posts
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    Hugely underrated crusty hardcore band from Canada.
  • DrStrangelove 5 May 2013 20:26:50 3,574 posts
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    Napalm Death - So Sad (demo)

  • riz23 7 May 2013 16:15:12 1,226 posts
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    I really wanted to contribute, but I've found it hard. You lot do it so much better.I love these guys and of course the name is apt and the narrative appropriate, but I always find this song kind of energising and not really depressing.
  • DrStrangelove 11 May 2013 01:23:29 3,574 posts
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    More dark/bleak than depressive, but I like it. Burzum-tradition black metal made by Gorgoroth's bassist, don't remember his "name".

  • DrStrangelove 11 May 2013 02:12:44 3,574 posts
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    Not trying to distract from the topic of this thread, which is politics in extreme music, and mainly black metal.

    How far does it go, how far should it go, and how deeply is it entrenched?


    (Maniac, best known from Mayhem)
  • DrStrangelove 11 May 2013 04:05:49 3,574 posts
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    And before you smeared yourself in cherry sauce... one scar looks real though...
  • riz23 11 May 2013 09:42:40 1,226 posts
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    I used to work with a bloke who played guitar in Mayhem for a bit. You would never have guessed it in a million years looking at him now. True story.
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