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Tom_Servo 18,079 posts
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@RedSparrows /points at whole thread title
Sure we're getting pretty far removed from the likes of Burzum and Graveland, but I think we're well into OP-approved derailment territory already.
If we're strictly talking 'suicidal' as per the thread title I may have to dig a little deeper, but I'm really not in the mood to get quite that melancholy today!
And because of Father Ted...
oh wow that is going off on one. I demand more Black/Doom/Post Metal!
I guess this can bridge the gap between Radiohead and the Doomy stuff. It always manages to hit me in the gut and makes me think of loved ones passed.
And a beautifully melancholic one from Arab Strap...
Edited by Beetroot_Bertie at 21:35:22 02-05-2013
A very atmospheric track by maybe the most troubled artist I know:
He was the vocalist of Silencer, which you may find laughable, but I found very intense. Pure desperation.
Edited by DrStrangelove at 01:00:07 03-05-2013
FabricatedLunatic 13,159 posts
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My final contribution. Esoteric - Dissident
Like a drug-fueled nightmare... then waking up to find the apocalypse raging outside but not minding because, thank fuck, it's gonna be all over soon.
And Secret of the Secret from the same album. Like DrHaggard, my favourite second half of a song would be CoL's Dark City, Dead Man; but this would be a close second. 8 minutes on is just... yes.
Lifelover - Cancertid. Vocals are a bit too clichéd for my taste, but aside from that, I love it. Catchy.
Love it, thanks!
darkmorgado wrote:I'm a bit surprised there, but it makes sense. I think I read an interview back in the time when Trent seemed to be more positive and exchanging drugs for yoghurt (which is depressing in its own way, of course), and lyrics like "we're in this together now, we will make it through somehow" or "I won't let you fall apart" are his most (only?) uplifting songs.
He personally considers the Fragile to be even bleaker from a conceptual standpoint, as TDW is about stripping your life down piece by piece and rejecting it all, whereas the Fragile starts at the bottom, attempts to rebuild that life and come to terms with everything with moderate success, but ultimately ends up worse than before - the album begins with "Somewhat damaged" and ends with "Ripe (with Decay)".
But yes, it's quite apparent that it didn't last long.
Year Zero is just a bit too political for me. I'm not against being political, I am all with him on the matters "discussed" on that album, it is the best political album I know, but I found it to be a bit lacking on the intense personal part that's the trademark of NIN. It also contains the imo worst NIN song, Capital G. I don't know what he's trying to do there with his vocals, I just know it doesn't work.
warlockuk wrote:Well, at one point he got himself an oldschool nazi hairdo and called himself Varg Quisling Vikernes, after Vidkun Quisling, back in the times boss of Norway's NS party and the nazi occupants' puppet regime. So I do think he's somewhat fond of nazism.
I wouldn't really call Varg a Nazi as such, though he does have certain nationalistic views and did come out with some utter crap while he was in jail.
Edited by DrStrangelove at 18:13:04 04-05-2013
He changes his mind about what he is every five minutes.
Graveland wrote:Very true. And even if I think Hellhammer is a fucking tit, I hugely enjoy his drumming on everything he drummed on.
To suggest that it does is to argue that humans are one dimensional beings.
I guess we're going even more fundamental here. We always like to see others as one-dimensional, some of us even ourselves, but that's far from reality. I guess it's human nature to pigeonhole everything because that's quicker and easier than trying to see the whole picture. The more thoughtful see themselves not in black and white, but the drive to see others in black and white is very strong.
I'm more willing to see the shades of grey than almost anyone I know, but you reminded me that I'm guilty of it too. Wish I could +1 you here.
Of course, still he doesn't seem too opposed to nazism.
I'm not quite sure why I forgot about them earlier but a happy little ditty from Swans...
Edited by Beetroot_Bertie at 11:25:29 05-05-2013
Nobody said that he was.
Swans are a great band.
Swans/Angels of Light do a very good line in depressing, abrasive, music, yup.
Hugely underrated crusty hardcore band from Canada.
Napalm Death - So Sad (demo)
I really wanted to contribute, but I've found it hard. You lot do it so much better.I love these guys and of course the name is apt and the narrative appropriate, but I always find this song kind of energising and not really depressing.
More dark/bleak than depressive, but I like it. Burzum-tradition black metal made by Gorgoroth's bassist, don't remember his "name".
Not trying to distract from the topic of this thread, which is politics in extreme music, and mainly black metal.
How far does it go, how far should it go, and how deeply is it entrenched?
(Maniac, best known from Mayhem)
And before you smeared yourself in cherry sauce... one scar looks real though...
I used to work with a bloke who played guitar in Mayhem for a bit. You would never have guessed it in a million years looking at him now. True story.
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