Is this gaming PC fairly well future proofed? Page 2

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  • Sandbox 23 Apr 2013 23:53:33 340 posts
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    The honest truth is no one knows what exactly is going to happen, you can try and future proof a PC only to get raped buy a socket change or RAM class upgrade and find that 300 quid mobo is useless.

    If you want a few years of decent gaming then an i5 or AMD 8350 and a decent GPU will indeed be fine, and unless you are driving 2 30 inch monitors, you do not need a 4gb gpu. I suggest spending as little as possible, see what the impact of the next gen consoles actually is then upgrade in a few years to keep up.
  • Armoured_Bear 23 Apr 2013 23:54:47 11,728 posts
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    Is there any point in a 680 above a 670 and a 3770K over a 3570K?
    Seems like a waste of money at this stage.
    Get a 3570K and 660Ti/670 and an actual meaningful GPU upgrade in a year or two.

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  • MMMarmite 23 Apr 2013 23:55:19 1,100 posts
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    He's preparing us all for when skynet takes over!
  • Deleted user 23 April 2013 23:58:57
    I'd again like to point out that if vizzini has indeed been building PCs since the days of the 286, that would easily place him close to, if not well into, his 40s. Just putting that out there.
  • Dirtbox 23 Apr 2013 23:59:16 78,840 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Is there any point in a 680 above a 670 and a 3770K over a 3570K?
    Seems like a waste of money at this stage.
    Get a 3570K and 660Ti/670 and an actual meaningful GPU upgrade in a year or two.
    There is never any point in getting the absolute top rung in anything ever, it's the realm of fools and idiots. For that matter, there's rarely any point in getting the second to top stuff either.

    The future is obviously always in motion so it's always best to get when does a good, affordable job and scale your PC around the areas it's lacking in as time goes on.

    I'd rather put 150 on a GPU that does a good job for 2 years than an 800 GPU that does a good job for 4.

    'Future proofing' is a mugs game.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 00:02:13 24-04-2013

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  • RobTheBuilder 23 Apr 2013 23:59:19 6,521 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear given its a kind present I think either are reasonable options.

    Though if it was me I'd get an i5 and a 670, and then upgrade the 670 in 12 months.
  • Bremenacht 24 Apr 2013 00:04:49 19,415 posts
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    @vizzini PC building is a fairly straightforward task and rewarding for those who know what they're doing, or are prepared to learn. It's a shame that you haven't sought to learn this for yourself. Here are a couple of websites which have PC building guides on them:

    www.tomshardware.co.uk
    www.anandtech.com

    There are plenty of others if you care to look for yourself.

    You should read these guides and try building a PC for yourself, rather than pretending that you have. I mean really read them, rather than just skim for stuff which you think will impress other people.

    It's a bit embarrassing to see you flail around claiming to be an expert in everything. Just attempt to be good at one thing to start with, and see how it goes.

    Don't post too much about how you're getting on in this forum, as most people aren't interested in attention-seekers.

    Edited by Bremenacht at 00:05:57 24-04-2013
  • Bremenacht 24 Apr 2013 00:09:33 19,415 posts
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    meme wrote:
    I'd again like to point out that if vizzini has indeed been building PCs since the days of the 286, that would easily place him close to, if not well into, his 40s. Just putting that out there.
    It's quite possible that he has been trapped in a cave all these years, with just imaginary PCs to talk to.

    He is quite Mittyesque.
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:09:51 11,728 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Is there any point in a 680 above a 670 and a 3770K over a 3570K?
    Seems like a waste of money at this stage.
    Get a 3570K and 660Ti/670 and an actual meaningful GPU upgrade in a year or two.
    There is never any point in getting the absolute top rung in anything ever, it's the realm of fools and idiots. For that matter, there's rarely any point in getting the second to top stuff either.

    The future is obviously always in motion so it's always best to get when does a good, affordable job and scale your PC around the areas it's lacking in as time goes on.

    I'd rather put 150 on a GPU that does a good job for 2 years than an 800 GPU that does a good job for 4.

    'Future proofing' is a mugs game.
    Yes but the 670 isn't second to top, nor is the 3570.
    Anyway, I went for a 670 months ago due to the memory bus but a 660Ti probably would have made almost zero difference so far at 1080p.
    It comes down to cash but best going for middle-high ground and upgrading...

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  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:10:50 11,728 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    meme wrote:
    I'd again like to point out that if vizzini has indeed been building PCs since the days of the 286, that would easily place him close to, if not well into, his 40s. Just putting that out there.
    It's quite possible that he has been trapped in a cave all these years, with just imaginary PCs to talk to.

    He is quite Mittyesque.
    Criticise the posts not the posters please.

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  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:13:18 6,521 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear yes, but this specific question is asking for a machine that is ready and future proofed with a budget that allows that.

    Of course a bit more will be less value for money but I think we've made that clear between us :)
  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 00:14:56
    @meme
    All the parts were from skipped odds and ends from a prototype stock control system that wasn't used at my dad's work. They weren't new when I got them, but not ancient. Sort of a whizz kids situation :)
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:15:33 11,728 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear yes, but this specific question is asking for a machine that is ready and future proofed with a budget that allows that.

    Of course a bit more will be less value for money but I think we've made that clear between us :)
    I have to agree with Dirtbox, "future proofing" with gaming PCs is pointless, go with med-high ground, vfm and be prepared to upgrade in a year or two.

    It takes 15 mins to replace a GPU ffs.

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  • Fake_Blood 24 Apr 2013 00:15:48 4,386 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Bremenacht wrote:
    meme wrote:
    I'd again like to point out that if vizzini has indeed been building PCs since the days of the 286, that would easily place him close to, if not well into, his 40s. Just putting that out there.
    It's quite possible that he has been trapped in a cave all these years, with just imaginary PCs to talk to.

    He is quite Mittyesque.
    Criticise the posts not the posters please.
    post #9525469 sucks.
  • superdelphinus 24 Apr 2013 00:16:19 8,125 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:


    I'd rather put 150 on a GPU that does a good job for 2 years than an 800 GPU that does a good job for 4.

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    bang on
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:17:58 11,728 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Bremenacht wrote:
    meme wrote:
    I'd again like to point out that if vizzini has indeed been building PCs since the days of the 286, that would easily place him close to, if not well into, his 40s. Just putting that out there.
    It's quite possible that he has been trapped in a cave all these years, with just imaginary PCs to talk to.

    He is quite Mittyesque.
    Criticise the posts not the posters please.
    post #9525469 sucks.
    Nicely done.

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  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:20:22 6,521 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear I agree, and i said that, but it sounds in this case they want it able to last as is, and with that budget they can afford to if it's their choice.

    Edited by RobTheBuilder at 00:20:57 24-04-2013
  • superdelphinus 24 Apr 2013 00:20:24 8,125 posts
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    perhaps controversially, I even think a 670 is overkill for the moment really, at least at 1080p. I 'only' have a 7850 and it runs everything I play very nicely with high/highest settings. Only thing I've had to calm down on is pCARS but that is pre-alpha and a bit of a dog optimisation wise.

    I wouldn't spend ~200 more for half a bell and a suggestion of whistle anyway...
  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:21:55 6,521 posts
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    @superdelphinus a 660ti is a good buy. But again, the original question wanted something future proofed as is.
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:22:24 11,728 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear I agree, and i said that, but it sounds in this case they want it able to last as is, and with that budget they can afford to if it's their choice.
    Aye but they should wise up with the "last" bollocks. Why ask for advice and not take it?

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  • superdelphinus 24 Apr 2013 00:23:11 8,125 posts
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    what does he mean by future though? it's all a bit perception orientated
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:26:13 11,728 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    what does he mean by future though? it's all a bit perception orientated
    I guess it's "buy a box and forget for 4 years with some odd sense of comfort"

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  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:26:29 6,521 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear that's up to them of course. But in the circumstances described they may be looking for something extravagant in power as a kind gift.

    We've given them the best value options, but it's up to them in their circumstances to decide!
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:28:09 11,728 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear that's up to them of course. But in the circumstances described they may be looking for something extravagant in power as a kind gift.

    We've given them the best value options, but it's up to them in their circumstances to decide!
    Is it a gift?
    Don't expect me to read things properly FFS.

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  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 00:28:32
    So in short, neither the AMD FX (Rob) suggested is top tier or close on the desktop CPU front? Neither is the LGA2011 entry CPU (core-i7-3820).

    On the gpu front a GTX 650 ti or a7850 are way below top tier and cheap to replace in the future. And all these options can be mixed and build a system below 900, and have similar performance of the impending LGA1150(typo: LGA1156) socket based systems.

    So basically what Rob and I have been discussing on page 1.

    Edited by vizzini at 16:09:44 27-04-2013
  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:30:21 6,521 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear oh yeah, you've been drinking ;)
  • Armoured_Bear 24 Apr 2013 00:32:27 11,728 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    So in short, neither the AMD FX (Rob) suggested is top tier or close on the desktop CPU front? Neither is the LGA2011 entry CPU (core-i7-3820).

    On the gpu front a GTX 650 ti or a7850 are way below top tier and cheap to replace in the future. And all these options can be mixed and build a system below 900, and have similar performance of the impending LGA1156 socket based systems.

    So basically what Rob and I have been discussing on page 1.
    Hi lover.

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  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 00:41:59
    @Armoured_Bear

    Inappropriately advance the posts not the posters please. :)
  • neilka 24 Apr 2013 00:45:42 16,470 posts
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    I had a pretty good idea how this thread was going to unfold before I clicked on it, and I was not disappointed.

    BAAANG!!!!! EXPLOTION!!!!!

  • RobTheBuilder 24 Apr 2013 00:46:00 6,521 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear

    Inappropriately advance the posts not the posters please. :)
    Vizzini in potd contender shock!
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