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  • Armoured_Bear 3 Apr 2013 13:04:15 10,296 posts
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    Ive making his mark

    I'm very pleased to hear this and it's what I was hoping for, great when it comes to OS X too.

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  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 13:08:47 20,023 posts
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    Ive my ass. It'll look like Google Now and mac heads will pretend it's something new.

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  • TarickStonefire 3 Apr 2013 13:09:47 2,901 posts
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    What does Google Now look like? I'm not Googling it. Just tell me.

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    No.
  • superdelphinus 3 Apr 2013 13:11:32 8,035 posts
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    Google now looks like a series of trendy boxes
  • THFourteen 3 Apr 2013 13:14:44 32,878 posts
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    widgets please for the love of god give me battery sapping beautiful crashy widgets
  • neilka 3 Apr 2013 13:17:27 15,672 posts
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    To find out what Google Now looks like simply type "google Google Now now" into Google.
  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 13:22:06 20,023 posts
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    @TarickStonefire

    Imagine an Apple made iOS map.
    Can you see that richly textured leather trim around the screen? The fake stitching? Or how about those glassy buttons looking like they've been polished using the same shoe cleaner that Ives put on his scalp.

    That is the opposite of Google Now.

    Which is the genius of it. Much like Win 8 "Metro" look before it they've intentionally looked at everything apple does design wise (in software) and gone to the oposite end.

    So Apple are cock blocked. Either they stick with their horrible trompe-l'il look or they end up aping MS and Google.

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  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 13:23:17 20,023 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    widgets please for the love of god give me battery sapping beautiful crashy widgets
    That is a myth propagated by people with little or no insgiht into widget.

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  • Deleted user 3 April 2013 13:25:56
    Widgets are ultimately fucking pointless though.
  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 13:26:36 20,023 posts
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    For the most part yes. I much prefer shortcuts.

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  • Deleted user 3 April 2013 13:28:46
    Shortcuts aren't needed if you have an intuitively designed os and the speed to make it run. Which might explain why I use them a lot on my phone and tablet.
  • nickthegun 3 Apr 2013 13:30:02 58,864 posts
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    I really hope it doesnt ape too much of androids shitty functionality.

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  • Wacko_AK 3 Apr 2013 13:30:04 180 posts
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    So Apple are cock blocked. Either they stick with their horrible trompe-l'il look or they end up aping MS and Google.
    Bravo Sir!
  • neilka 3 Apr 2013 13:31:20 15,672 posts
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    What's everyone got against midgets all of a sudden?
  • mrpon 3 Apr 2013 13:31:39 28,481 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Widgets are ultimately fucking pointless though.
    Lock screen widget? Very useful in a one click kinda way.

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • Deckard1 3 Apr 2013 13:33:44 27,234 posts
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    Sasauge fingers no like short cuts!
  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 13:47:32 20,023 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I really hope it doesnt ape too much of androids shitty functionality.
    What shitty functionality would that be? Personally I find Android to be years ahead of iOS.
    OS specific stuff now.

    Shortcuts
    Homescreens I can do whatever I want with
    How sharing works between apps
    Lock screen widgets
    The fact that third party devs can make apps like Swype or SwiftKey
    That Google Maps show public transport directions (unfair of me to add this)
    The way the notification center works

    The only advantage iOS has (IMO) is some better third party apps. But the OS it self?

    Edited by Tonka at 14:13:26 03-04-2013

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  • TarickStonefire 3 Apr 2013 13:50:04 2,901 posts
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    @Tonka I have the Gmail app on my iPhone. Don't really like it, but use it sometimes if Gmail is being a dick on the Mail app. Is that what Google Now looks like?

    I'm no fan of the stupid leather and stitches, but you're right that a lot of tedious people seem to take a lot of delight in wasting vast tracts of time posting online about how every single thing Apple does is them ripping (insert tech company here) off.

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  • Armoured_Bear 3 Apr 2013 13:50:46 10,296 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    I really hope it doesnt ape too much of androids shitty functionality.
    What shitty functionality would that be? Personally I find Android to be years ahead of iOS.
    OS specific stuff now.

    Shortcuts
    Homescreens I can do whatever I want with
    How sharing works between apps
    Lock screen widgets
    The fact that third party devs can make apps like Swype or SwiftKey
    That Google Maps show public transport directions
    The way the notification center works

    The only advantage iOS has (IMO) is some better third party apps. But the OS it self?
    It's a lot more stable and faster or a start.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Apr 2013 14:01:38 39,387 posts
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    Stable yes, Faster no.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • TarickStonefire 3 Apr 2013 14:02:46 2,901 posts
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    @Tonka If that stuff is what you want and iOS doesn't do it, stick to Android. Not much there bothers me on iOS personally, although I can certainly see why it would be desirable to those who want it. Shortcuts maaaaybe, but Launch Center Pro works just fine for me, great app.

    One thing: "That Google Maps show public transport directions" is down to Google bothering to add it to their app on iOS, surely. Not an issue of iOS development by Apple, I don't think.

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  • THFourteen 3 Apr 2013 14:03:35 32,878 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    THFourteen wrote:
    widgets please for the love of god give me battery sapping beautiful crashy widgets
    That is a myth propagated by people with little or no insgiht into widget.
    lol i was actually joking

    i've just this morning set up two widgets to tell me what platforms the trains i need to take to go to and from work leave from.

    widgets are ace.
  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 14:03:49 20,023 posts
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    I don't have a top of the line iPhone to compare to but I haven't found stability or speed a problem on my Nexus 4.

    Anything else?

    I'm not saying iOS is rubbish btw. I just think it's a year or two behind Android (and Win8 and BB) feature wise. I also doubt Apple will be able to close that gap since they seem hell bent on moving in the opposite direction AND lack the developers to do anything about it.

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  • TarickStonefire 3 Apr 2013 14:05:51 2,901 posts
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    @THFourteen So widgets are things that clutter up, sorry, appear on your lock screen?

    I'm not sure what the incredible difference is between having that on a lockscreen and just unlocking the phone and popping open SimpleNote from the dock, where I have all that info and more... ;)

    Seriously, though, are they just thingies on the lockscreen?

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  • Armoured_Bear 3 Apr 2013 14:06:36 10,296 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Stable yes, Faster no.
    I have a Galaxy S3 and an iPhone 5 for work, the iPhone is miles faster, miles more responsive.

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  • MrTomFTW Moderator 3 Apr 2013 14:09:30 37,378 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's a lot more stable and faster or a start.
    Not since Jelly Bean and Project Butter came along

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  • TarickStonefire 3 Apr 2013 14:10:10 2,901 posts
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    I'm not sure what I'd want from iOS 7, but I've seen all the 'custom home screen' stuff that Android devices do and I can honestly say I don't want any of that stuff. I don't want the option of sticking a massive ticking clock and an animated weather cloud and a permenent window into my inbox etc etc all floating around in my homescreens.

    I do know that none of that stuff would be remotely important to me if I was to consider switching to another kind of phone. Not saying it's pointless, just isn't necessarily required, which means (to me) that people who go round insisting that iOS is stale and dead in the water and boring and "needs" to be changed are really only speaking for themselves and perhaps don't understand that Apple doesn't make changes just because some people prefer the way other companies do it.

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  • Tonka 3 Apr 2013 14:12:44 20,023 posts
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    TarickStonefire wrote:
    One thing: "That Google Maps show public transport directions" is down to Google bothering to add it to their app on iOS, surely. Not an issue of iOS development by Apple, I don't think.
    You right, it was unfair of me to add that since it's not an OS level feature. It will be interesting to see if Google adds it to their iOS app or if 2013 will indeed be the year of system lock in like Bruce Sterling said.

    That Launch Center app does look like it adds some much needed functionality to iOS.

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  • THFourteen 3 Apr 2013 14:13:05 32,878 posts
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    TarickStonefire wrote:
    @THFourteen So widgets are things that clutter up, sorry, appear on your lock screen?

    I'm not sure what the incredible difference is between having that on a lockscreen and just unlocking the phone and popping open SimpleNote from the dock, where I have all that info and more... ;)

    Seriously, though, are they just thingies on the lockscreen?
    not the lockscreen, but the home screens

    as an example, if I want to check whether the jubilee line is running, I unlock my ipad, find the tube app in its folder, load up the tube app and click on jubilee line.

    if i want to do the same on my android phone, you unlock the phone and glance at the screen.

    obviously theres a limit to how many widgets you can have on one screen, before you have to start swiping left or right to go to other screens. for example my twitter feed takes up a whole screen on its own, and its two swipes to get to that screen. Is there much difference between that and iOS where you have to open up the twitter app? probably not.
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