Tropes vs. Women in Video Games Page 9

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  • manic_mouse 7 Apr 2013 13:11:35 240 posts
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    King_Edward wrote:
    @manic_mouse

    Simple fact is you can't say anything bad about feminism or feminists without being labeled a misogynist, even if you're completely right. It's an easy strawman for anyone to make to support themselves.
    Maybe you shouldn't be using these events to attack feminism, and should instead focus on the individual abusing it, and by that I mean point out why she's wrong, rather than theaten to rape her.
    And here it begins! I'm not attacking feminism because there is nothing feminist about what Adria did. I'm attacking Adria and many of her feminist supporters that tried to paint it out as a feminist issue to get men in trouble.

    Lots of people pointed out why she was wrong without threatening to kill or rape her. Of course they were ignored and lumped in with the sexists who did, while everyone reported on how she was fighting against "sexist" comments at pycon (that never existed).

    WHICH IS EXACTLY MY POINT.

    Edited by manic_mouse at 13:14:57 07-04-2013
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:15:24 5,456 posts
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    Sure, a small group were being dicks about it. But I've read WAY more reports on that whole affair being critical of her than being blindedly for her.
  • King_Edward 7 Apr 2013 13:17:36 11,459 posts
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    manic_mouse wrote:
    disusedgenius wrote:
    manic_mouse wrote:
    Simple fact is you can't say anything bad about feminism or feminists without being labeled a misogynist, even if you're completely right.
    Really, though? Or is this some weird reverse victim play in effect?
    I think the whole Adria Richards thing proves the point nicely. Anyone who (rightly) pointed out that there was nothing sexist about what the guys said and that Adria was completely and maliciously in the wrong was labelled a sexist by Adria's feminist followers.
    I think it's fair to play the victim when you're the subject of an orchestrated assault of rape and death threats, racism and sexism on an internet wide scale.
  • b0rk 7 Apr 2013 13:19:23 2,922 posts
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    What really gets me is the lack of critical thinking you see when trying to argue with a feminist. It's really weird to witness actually and reminds me of people who have been indoctrinated into a cult.
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:24:18 5,456 posts
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    Yeah, I think I'm starting to see why you have a hard time discussing things with them...
  • b0rk 7 Apr 2013 13:27:24 2,922 posts
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    Ouch, that hurt. :lol:
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:31:13 5,456 posts
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    Oh, I'm sorry, were you expecting some kind of back-slapping agreement?
  • b0rk 7 Apr 2013 13:33:55 2,922 posts
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    :rolleyes:
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:37:55 5,456 posts
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    I'll take that as a yes then...
  • b0rk 7 Apr 2013 13:39:26 2,922 posts
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    Okay.
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:40:26 5,456 posts
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    Thanks.
  • b0rk 7 Apr 2013 13:40:45 2,922 posts
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    No problem.
  • disusedgenius 7 Apr 2013 13:41:59 5,456 posts
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    I...erm... damnit. You win. :(
  • daft 7 Apr 2013 16:42:36 554 posts
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    B0rked_Gamer wrote:
    Sweden is, like, fucking crazy to be fair.
    Hey! I resent that...

    Seriously though, the parental leave thing you should definitely look into over there though. It's a fantastic thing having the opportunity to spent time with your kids without having to worry about money (too much). It's not perfect, but it's generally a good thing. :)
  • FWB 7 Apr 2013 17:24:34 44,857 posts
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    You are a nice guy. Bet you are a hoot in real life.
  • JinTypeNoir 28 May 2013 21:48:42 4,392 posts
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    Part 2 of Damsel in Distress is up.

  • King_Edward 28 May 2013 22:31:40 11,459 posts
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    And now it's down.
  • ecu 28 May 2013 22:34:43 77,089 posts
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    Well this should be good for a laugh.
  • Syrette 28 May 2013 22:36:08 43,854 posts
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    She done any nudes?

  • Mox 28 May 2013 22:44:07 51 posts
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    Good grief that was fast! I'm glad I managed to watch it before it got taken down by a bunch of clowns who I'm sure are all shouting about how these radfems are stifling free speech. Hopefully I can be just as quick on the draw when part three comes out, I think the trope subversals and reversals are going to be interesting to consider.
  • b0rk 28 May 2013 22:58:27 2,922 posts
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    The "clowns" as you put it generally don't go around false flagging YouTube videos, that's the domain of feminist groups like Those Pesky Dames. ;-)

    It'll be interesting so see whether Sarkeesian uses her usual tactic of leaving up the comments to generate buzz before disabling them. Free speech and all that..
  • Mox 28 May 2013 23:00:04 51 posts
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    The comments and ratings were disabled when I saw it.
  • b0rk 28 May 2013 23:04:32 2,922 posts
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    Hm I'll check it out later when it goes back up.
  • King_Edward 28 May 2013 23:48:34 11,459 posts
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    It's back up. It's long, technically correct, and quite boring.
  • b0rk 28 May 2013 23:51:52 2,922 posts
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    Comments still disabled but we do get a TRIGGER WARNING this time for disturbing images.

    Jesus fucking Christ.
  • FWB 28 May 2013 23:54:23 44,857 posts
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    Some people can't handle criticism or other people having an awful opinion.

    Either way, I see the make up is still being heavily applied.

    Edited by FWB at 23:57:19 28-05-2013
  • b0rk 28 May 2013 23:57:43 2,922 posts
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    Well the internet is such a mean place. :D
  • FWB 29 May 2013 00:01:42 44,857 posts
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    If you want to be taken seriously then you need to open yourself up to feedback. It's a vital part of academia.

    I have never understood why comment sections get disabled. Just ignore the nutters and reply to those engaging with respect. There are a lot of them. Else it sounds like you are dictating, rather than debating.
  • Bremenacht 29 May 2013 00:07:05 18,761 posts
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    In Gears of War, your Bro is brutally murdered and you, err, ohh..
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