The *Official* Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Thread (Wii-U and 3DS) Page 8

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  • oldschoolsoviet 22 Apr 2013 19:03:46 5,460 posts
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    The camera is purposefully designed like that.

    It's so you don't need to concern yourself with the vertical against flying/hovering monsters. Or so I believe.

    Looking downwards for ground beasties, upwards for swatting Raths with a GS, you only need to rotate/snap to.
  • shamblemonkee 22 Apr 2013 21:34:21 14,322 posts
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    @Greg fine like in this video...



    panning smoothly on the R analogue stick.
  • oldschoolsoviet 22 Apr 2013 22:34:59 5,460 posts
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    Nah, he's complaining about the 'steps' on the vertical. You see it @1:30ish, and what I'm talking about regarding flying @6:40ish.

    It is a very strange complaint though. :)
  • shamblemonkee 22 Apr 2013 23:52:22 14,322 posts
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    ah i see. tilt

    yeah i guess that's not great but i can't say i've ever needed it desperately, so much so that i didn't really notice :D.
  • Gregolution 23 Apr 2013 08:11:17 3,175 posts
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    oldschoolsoviet wrote:
    Nah, he's complaining about the 'steps' on the vertical. You see it @1:30ish, and what I'm talking about regarding flying @6:40ish.

    It is a very strange complaint though. :)
    It's strange to want standard twin analogue camera controls in 2013? Give me a break.

    It's not just the vertical, the horizontal isn't analogue either. It's on or off. Not sure why this is so hard to explain.

    It's not designed that way for a good reason oss, it just hasn't been updated since the game was originally made for a system that didn't have twin sticks. I find it very lazy of them not to have updated it for this hd upgrade.
  • oldschoolsoviet 23 Apr 2013 08:57:44 5,460 posts
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    Ahem ! Monster Hunter was PS2 originally, twinstick era....but, and this'll blow your mind, the right stick was for attacks !

    Camera was d-pad, with a snap-to-front on L1/L3(?). Wooooo ! I get your angst, but after playing Soul Sacrifice, it should be obvious. Tracking anything is bloody awful in that (lock-on ? bleurgh) and the Harpy is barely on-screen when flying. Seeing as you've got attacks, dodging and inventory shuffle on the right in MH, you want to juggle a camera too ?

    The MH camera isn't perfect (scenery push aargh) but it's vertical is designed that way to serve a purpose. Trust me. A free camera would be an absolute ball-ache, especially in the confusion of attacking between a spinning Rath's knees. As that video shows, the cam 'notches' match up to the monster's height/attacks, so it keeps the bulk of it in view. I have DesignWorks-style book detailing it. ;) On-off horizontal is purely for speed, as was the old snap.

    As for updates, it's Capcom. Not only will they milk it to death, gaining millions of sales while spending sod all in development, they'd have the backlash of all backlashes by significantly altering it over in Japan. Lazy ? Nope, just keeping cost down, sales maintained, fans happy, and a cash-cow profit.

    Western fans ? Who gives a f**k ?
  • Gregolution 23 Apr 2013 09:49:48 3,175 posts
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    oldschoolsoviet wrote:
    Ahem ! Monster Hunter was PS2 originally, twinstick era....but, and this'll blow your mind, the right stick was for attacks !

    /mindpop

    See your points with the post. Like I said originally, I liked the game but I get very wound up when I see obvious money milking. I like to see a game has had effort put into it. This looked very cheap to put together and they charge full whack for it.

    Look at things like Sly Cooper on the other hand, full game built from scratch and it's only 20 quid.

    I waited a very long time for MH as I always wanted to play it in HD with twin stick controls (so I ignored the PSP game) and therefore am fairly disappointed with what I got.
  • JiveHound 23 Apr 2013 10:03:09 2,416 posts
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    To be fair no secret was made of its Wii roots.

    I can live with the graphics as the game loads extremely quick which to me is more important.

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  • Gregolution 23 Apr 2013 10:07:15 3,175 posts
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    With this new deal nintendo announced (by 3 games get 1 free) I may end up with Monster Hunter on my 3ds!

    Are the controls much worse? I don't really fancy buying that ridiculous plastic addon.
  • JiveHound 23 Apr 2013 10:18:33 2,416 posts
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    My girlfriend seems happy enough with it although I heard that swimming is a pain without the second stick.

    I've dabbled with it but the wholesale approach to transferring data (all three files instead of just one) means I don't get to use it for what I intended.

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  • shamblemonkee 23 Apr 2013 11:14:30 14,322 posts
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    If the controls on wii frustrated u stay clear of the ds version unless you have the stick
  • Gregolution 23 Apr 2013 11:19:26 3,175 posts
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    shamblemonkee wrote:
    If the controls on wii frustrated u stay clear of the ds version unless you have the stick
    It was more that it annoyed me they didn't update them, rather than them not working.
  • Raiko101 23 Apr 2013 11:42:38 6,219 posts
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    I think it's how you approach the game, in terms of camera use. Most modern games require you to 'aim' the camera, rather than move or rotate it. You really shouldn't be trying to line up the camera with mosters, rather just bring them into view.

    I strongly recommed you use the L button more, as it's much faster at doing this. Even if you're not locking onto anything. The only time that analog stick becomes necessary is underwater.

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  • Raiko101 30 Apr 2013 17:53:18 6,219 posts
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    I've just finished my second quest involving traps. I really hope there aren't many more. Are there any benefits to catching monsters? Can you catch them outside of quests? They are seriously annoying.

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  • shamblemonkee 30 Apr 2013 18:45:57 14,322 posts
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    more loot
  • Raiko101 1 May 2013 09:55:55 6,219 posts
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    I was afraid you'd say that.

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  • midi82 1 May 2013 12:03:54 671 posts
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    it get's easier with practice, and if you're online there is usually someone who knows what they are doing who will set the trap for you
  • Deleted user 1 May 2013 17:10:25
    Sometimes it's better to kill, sometimes it's better to cap. It depends on what materials you're after.

    There are very few forced capture quests, and they're all in low rank village.
  • Raiko101 1 May 2013 17:23:41 6,219 posts
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    I actually caught a Royal Ludroth on the first time of asking, so maybe i'm getting the hang of it.

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  • Deleted user 2 May 2013 10:13:53
    If you have the Capture Guru skill and the monster is marked (either from a paintball or Autotracker), it will blink when weak enough to be captured.

    It's pretty easy to gem in as well. Only need 5 single armour slots, not including any Perception talisman you may have.
  • Raiko101 8 May 2013 18:24:25 6,219 posts
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    Does anyone here take the 3DS version online, via the Wii U? I'm wondering if you can use the 3DS mic to chat with others while online.

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  • JiveHound 10 May 2013 09:04:22 2,416 posts
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    I don't know whether it's because I'm ill but I'm beginning to find playing this single player rather tedious.

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  • Raiko101 10 May 2013 14:43:35 6,219 posts
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    How far are you through the quests?

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  • JiveHound 11 May 2013 08:31:32 2,416 posts
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    Just started 5 stars.

    I felt like poo yesterday so I didn't have the patience to be smacked about by a Rathian.

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  • elvenscroll 11 May 2013 10:44:33 1,381 posts
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    Just grabbed this on Wii U, so would be up for some multi player hunting at some point.

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  • Raiko101 11 May 2013 13:22:23 6,219 posts
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    @JiveHound That was exactly where I was when I asked that question. We'll have to sort out some online sessions because i'm getting gear that is making these quests a little easier than the online equivalents.

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  • JiveHound 11 May 2013 13:49:19 2,416 posts
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    Hello Chipworm, feel free to add me.

    Raiko, that would be excellent, I should be about tomorrow.

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  • Raiko101 11 May 2013 16:24:42 6,219 posts
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    We'll i'm off work tomorrow, so should be about. If something comes up, i'm off work until thursday, so there's plenty of time to arrange something if other folk want to join in.

    Have you done any of the online quests yet? You should be able to breeze through the HR1 & HR2 quests quite quickly if you haven't.

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  • JiveHound 11 May 2013 16:55:12 2,416 posts
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    Haven't done many online quests, I'll give that a look, cheers.

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  • Pinky_Floyd 11 May 2013 17:05:18 7,700 posts
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    How are you chaps communicating online?
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