crispyduckman wrote:What on earth does a 'cultured man' have to gain by leaving Britain? Srsly.sweatyBallacks wrote:Nah, I'm one of those left wing liberals who takes massive advantage of the right wing capitalist ways of this country.
@crispyduckman You gotta get away. Any self-respecting, cultured man would have plans to get away from the country as soon as possible. For a start, I can earn a lot more in Brazil teaching English. Also, what's ludicrous is the cost of owning your own home. What's the average mortgage deposit now in London? £40,000?? Fucking insane and insulting.
You'd have to be a millionaire to buy a decent home and provide for two kids living in London, seriously.
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RedSparrows 16,988 posts
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Registered 6 years agomcmonkeyplc wrote:
Recent developments aside, this idea of 'unchecked immigration' is intriguing.simsini wrote:
Have you been to a port of any kind recently?
The UK has allowed almost unchecked immigration in recent times and it is too much too fast. Nobdoy has been given time to gel with each other and this is good for nobody regardless of your race, religion or culture.
You've won. Now shut up and reap the rewards of your anti-immigration ideal.
There has been a lot of migration. Immigration has been prominent in people's minds, due to the changes simsini refers to.
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Registered 5 years agoRedSparrows wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's nearly impossible to move to the UK legally unless you're an EU citizen already or your life is under serious threat.mcmonkeyplc wrote:
Recent developments aside, this idea of 'unchecked immigration' is intriguing.simsini wrote:
Have you been to a port of any kind recently?
The UK has allowed almost unchecked immigration in recent times and it is too much too fast. Nobdoy has been given time to gel with each other and this is good for nobody regardless of your race, religion or culture.
You've won. Now shut up and reap the rewards of your anti-immigration ideal.
There has been a lot of migration. Immigration has been prominent in people's minds, due to the changes simsini refers to.
But was it actually 'unchecked'? If not, why are we saying it is? If so, how would 'unchecked' immigration work?PSN & XBL - crispyduckman
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Registered 3 years ago@RedSparrows Perhaps unchecked was the wrong word, but I would mainly say unlimited numbers from within the EU and the government not knowing how many illegal immigrants are in the country.
It will only get worse next year when Bulgarian and Romanian citizens come here in huge numbers.
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Registered 11 years agoGiven London is almost 20 percent of the population of England, I would say it is a fair chunk of it.
I know a guy who claimed the same thing about the capital. That it didn't represent him cos of all the diversity. What does he go and do? Marry a Japanese lass.
I am also not quite sure how the pace of change, quick or slow, is an issue. What difference does it make? Who cares? The only thing I will say, and I say it as a English teacher to adults, is that the government goes too far to cater for different languages. Private sector? Sure. Do what you want. But the government should not be providing translators nor translating so many documents. It is on your head to learn the language if you want to engage with it. And it ISN'T expensive or difficult. It just requires you being arsed. And I KNOW there are number (not a mass, granted) that can't be bothered but expect to be catered for. I deal with them.
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Registered 7 years agoSo, you're going to vote to leave Europe because you don't like foreigners coming over here with their strange smelling food and their odd voices taking your jobs and living in your London?
How delightfully old fashioned.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Hey, if you can't beat em...
I know a guy who claimed the same thing about the capital. That it didn't represent him cos of all the diversity. What does he go and do? Marry a Japanese lass.
Edited by crispyduckman at 17:04:18 21-02-2013PSN & XBL - crispyduckman
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Lmfao
So, you're going to vote to leave Europe because you don't like foreigners coming over here with their strange smelling food and their odd voices taking your jobs and living in your London?
How delightfully old fashioned.PSN & XBL - crispyduckman
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Registered 2 years ago@simsini You are witnessing the decline of (western) civilization. Immigration and things like that are just one small part of a much bigger development. Don't try to argue. Lean into the wave and use it. -
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Registered 11 years agoWe will have to recall all those Brits living in the EU. Granted, not as many there as EU citizens here, but they'll have to come back and find jobs. And I can't see them being waiters or cleaning staff.
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Fuck their wimmin!FWB wrote:
Hey, if you can't beat em...
I know a guy who claimed the same thing about the capital. That it didn't represent him cos of all the diversity. What does he go and do? Marry a Japanese lass.mowgli wrote: I fucking love willies.
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He still slags us off for our mix here.FWB wrote:
Hey, if you can't beat em...
I know a guy who claimed the same thing about the capital. That it didn't represent him cos of all the diversity. What does he go and do? Marry a Japanese lass.
But then people will never cease to amaze me. Met one Balkan who had just got his passport and started telling me in his thick accent how we needed to close the borders, how all of this diversity was not he real England. How he real England was out in the countryside. Immigrants can be just as racist as the natives, particularly as they see other immigrants as economic threats. -
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Registered 7 years agoI think I'm spoiled by living in London. I see racial tolerance and diversity as pretty much how things are, but obviously the rest of the country is a little different here and there.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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crispyduckman wrote:
He still slags us off for our mix here.FWB wrote:
Hey, if you can't beat em...
I know a guy who claimed the same thing about the capital. That it didn't represent him cos of all the diversity. What does he go and do? Marry a Japanese lass.
But then people will never cease to amaze me. Met one Balkan who had just got his passport and started telling me in his thick accent how we needed to close the borders, how all of this diversity was not he real England. How he real England was out in the countryside. Immigrants can be just as racist as the natives, particularly as they see other immigrants as economic threats.Like I said earlier:
Lets face it, all creeds are racist. Multiculturalism is another 'ism' born to fail.mowgli wrote: I fucking love willies.
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Registered 11 years agoErr... No. While the first is true, although I would add the modal "can", the latter isn't.
Agree, Leo. Variety is the spice of life, and I love sampling so many cultures.
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Registered 5 years agoI like to know I could go over to Eastern Europe at any time and live like a king in a palace surrounded by a harem of beautiful women. Just keeping it in mind as an escape plan of sorts.
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Registered 8 years agoShow me a place that isn't multicultural, where every resident was born there and no one is an "outsider", and I'll show you a place that's so fucking backwards and devoid of any reason for its existence that no one from another place would be stupid enough to even entertain any ideas to ever visit it. -
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Show me a place that isn't multicultural, where every resident was born there and no one is an "outsider", and I'll show you a place that's so fucking backwards and devoid of any reason for its existence that no one from another place would be stupid enough to even entertain any ideas to ever visit it.
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Registered 7 years agoAnywhere North of Birmingham. -
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Registered 7 years agoChaos wastes. And Durham, like a bastion of poshness.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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You've played Fallout right?
I assume there *is* something north of Birmingham?PSN & XBL - crispyduckman
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Registered 6 years agoDangerous_Dan wrote:
What absolute tosh.
@simsini You are witnessing the decline of (western) civilization. Immigration and things like that are just one small part of a much bigger development. Don't try to argue. Lean into the wave and use it. -
simsini wrote:
I don't mean any offence, but you really do sound like you are speaking without knowing quite what you're referring to.
@RedSparrows Perhaps unchecked was the wrong word, but I would mainly say unlimited numbers from within the EU and the government not knowing how many illegal immigrants are in the country.
It will only get worse next year when Bulgarian and Romanian citizens come here in huge numbers.
I don't necessarily have an issue with you disliking immigration. My annoyance more comes from these kinds of blanket statements. It also ignores emigration (of anyone, including immigrants) and logical things like illegal immigrant count: how can you know exactly when they are here illegally? The terms of discussion are so warped and vague as to be purely emotive, and that never helps - even though the emotion is also important.
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