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  • GameOverYeah 11 Feb 2013 13:16:48 160 posts
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    I think this statement is being heard alot is mainly down to how Microsoft have been running things recently.

    Over the past couple of years its first and second party developers have crumbled or disappeared. Rare was dead a long time ago, but Lionhead losing 80% of its talent and Molyneux after Fable: Journey was surprising. Bungie being replaced by 393 studios is another example (sure there not bad by any means but its hardly like for like talent wise). Epic games starting branch out and Bizzare Creations going to Activision (and eventually going under). It doesn't really paint a good picture.

    Then there is Kinect, which it is making said first party include it into all its games for the system (which may explain why there is such an exodus). Kinect clearly wasn't going to work after the first year. But because it sold well, they are still backing it 100% as a new control mechanism and its certain to be built into the next system.

    Lastly, its the changes to the interface on the dashboard. More and more adverts. Indie games being pushed into the background. A focus on media, streaming videos and social networks rather than Video games first (which what made them so popular over the years and made Sony less so).

    Its a culmination of many things they have slowly done over the past couple of years. No one thing has made them suddenly shite and the 360 is still a great console. But its starting to look like the constant progress and improvement they have been making since the first Xbox has peaked. They seem to be losing touch with their consumers (or more disinterested in them) and seem determined to chase the App and media streaming crowd instead. That's a mistake IMO.

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  • King_Edward 11 Feb 2013 13:19:51 9,290 posts
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    I embraced Windows 8 and it shat in my computer.
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:26:31 200 posts
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    @anthonypappa - My girlfriend has a Kinect and I enjoy playing it- I like using it for Madden as well.

    I'm really not an Xbox fanboy- everyone knows Xbox has the best exclusive games and I find them to be tedious and childish rubbish- so god knows what the PS3 ones are like.

    The point is, games are games are games. If they are good then you can get them on any modern console you want. Call of Duty, Fifa, GTA, Resident Evil are all multiplatform and that's what people want to play. Not Pew Pew space rubbish or Tomb Raider rip-offs.
  • Benno 11 Feb 2013 13:28:52 8,391 posts
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    I think you're wrong. There are some great games like the Uncharted 1 & 2 as well as Demon Souls which didn't feature on the Xbox 360.
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:32:34 200 posts
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    @GameOverYeah -

    In regards to those points-

    1) If developers are any good they won't go under.
    2) Kinect has 'worked' i.e. fastest selling electronics product of all-time, revolutionary and has made Microsoft a tonne of money. The games are brilliant to play as well
    3) The dashboard is exactly the same as it always has been, you can also bypass it if you don't like it
    4) Streaming media and catch up services are amazing to have- I don't have freeview or anything so I watch all my tv through that
    5) Who HONESTLY cares about indie games? Twee, hipster nonsense that is a buzzword of the month.
    6) I am an Xbox consumer and they are doing everything right for me. Gaming consoles aren't gaming consoles any more. If people want to make a £500 box that can only plays DVD games so that a load of fat bedroom shut ins are happy then it's their loss.
  • King_Edward 11 Feb 2013 13:32:38 9,290 posts
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    You appear to be painfully ignorant bumyogurt.
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:33:42 200 posts
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    @Benno - Uncharted is a tomb raider rip-off which seems really unimpressive- never heard of Demon Souls but sounds like another Japanese button-bash sword game.
  • FuzzyDuck 11 Feb 2013 13:34:45 1,772 posts
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    bumyoghurt wrote:
    @Benno - Uncharted is a tomb raider rip-off which seems really unimpressive- never heard of Demon Souls but sounds like another Japanese button-bash sword game.
    Total ignorance = confirmed.

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  • anthonypappa 11 Feb 2013 13:34:57 1,397 posts
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    dear god.

    what a fool.
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:37:26 200 posts
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    @anthonypappa - You're not that bad. Just listen to some of what I have to say and you might learn something.
  • Benno 11 Feb 2013 13:37:51 8,391 posts
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    Hes trolling
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:38:00 200 posts
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    FuzzyDuck wrote:
    bumyoghurt wrote:
    @Benno - Uncharted is a tomb raider rip-off which seems really unimpressive- never heard of Demon Souls but sounds like another Japanese button-bash sword game.
    Total ignorance = confirmed.
    Why is that, please? Because I don't get excited about Uncharted?
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 11 Feb 2013 13:41:46 31,172 posts
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    Benno wrote:
    Hes trolling
    Indeed. What's more disappointing is that people are biting.

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  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 13:43:11 200 posts
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    Oh for god's sake. "Waa waa trolling."

    I haven't said anything here that is not my genuine opinion. I am sorry if you don't agree- but that's life.
  • Syrette 11 Feb 2013 13:48:15 38,236 posts
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  • RedSparrows 11 Feb 2013 14:04:47 16,844 posts
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    I reckon MS will pull some new IP exclusive stuff out for the next gen. They're not bothering so much now, and for a year or two, cos they already have the install-base and want the next gen to be prepped and good to go.*

    *No doubt it'll suck for the first 6-12 months.
  • GameOverYeah 11 Feb 2013 14:46:31 160 posts
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    @bumyoghurt

    Terrible effort at trolling right there mate. Try harder.

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  • dancingrob 11 Feb 2013 14:52:10 949 posts
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    @RedSparrows

    I'd agree with that. The whole point of exclusive games is to sell systems. At this stage, nobody beyond a handful of teenagers and fanboys care about new exclusives, everyone having either made their purchasing decisions long ago, or simply looking at the back catalogue of exclusives on each console when choosing which machine to buy (loosely speaking, I think most would agree that Sony have the better disk exclusives / MS the better downloadable ones)

    As such, when the new consoles launch, both companies will want adverts driving people towards their machine rather than the other one, and for the first year or two, it'll be a powerful driver of console choice, and Sony/MS will focus a lot of their marketing budget on that.
  • captainrentboy 11 Feb 2013 15:07:17 615 posts
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    bumyoghurt wrote:
    Sorry, but that's clearly not true. I am trying to get to the bottom of why people seem to be so scared of embracing change in the new generation. Only a few neckbeards really care about exclusive games- the best games come out on all consoles- so embrace the future.
    Uhh, someone's talking shit around here..
  • mowgli 11 Feb 2013 15:12:28 31,775 posts
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    I love my console being a multimedia powerhouse. Saves setting up a pc beside the tv and having all guests think you are a rapist. I don't however like adds absolutely everywhere. Even less so when I'm paying for a service that is free and add free elsewhere.

    Pissy pants.

  • bad09 11 Feb 2013 15:20:59 4,570 posts
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    @mowgli

    I only came in for the comedy but I've just gotta ask, why would people think you are a rapist if your PC is hooked up to the telly?? Do statistics show more rapists use XBMC or something? :)
  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 15:26:19 200 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Saves setting up a pc beside the tv and having all guests think you are a rapist.
    Ha ha ha
  • kinky_mong 11 Feb 2013 15:29:47 7,954 posts
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    Shame the OP is a complete idiot because I quite like his username.
  • UncleLou Moderator 11 Feb 2013 15:30:31 34,654 posts
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    I once got asked if I am a paedophile when I still had the Wii. True story. I'll take the rapist instead any day of the week, thanks. :-/
  • bad09 11 Feb 2013 15:34:36 4,570 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    I once got asked if I am a paedophile when I still had the Wii. True story. I'll take the rapist instead any day of the week, thanks. :-/
    LOL, you kiddy waggler!
  • kinky_mong 11 Feb 2013 15:37:20 7,954 posts
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    bad09 wrote:
    @mowgli

    I only came in for the comedy but I've just gotta ask, why would people think you are a rapist if your PC is hooked up to the telly?? Do statistics show more rapists use XBMC or something? :)
    Put this way, if Ed Gein was alive today he would definitely have a PC hooked up to his living room telly. Probably via a cable fashioned from an OAP's spinal column.
  • Razz 11 Feb 2013 15:37:21 57,900 posts
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    You lot are just a bunch of gaming hipsters

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  • bumyoghurt 11 Feb 2013 15:39:05 200 posts
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    kinky_mong wrote:
    Shame the OP is a complete idiot because I quite like his username.
    That's not very nice
  • Widge Moderator 11 Feb 2013 15:39:35 10,450 posts
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    bumyoghurt wrote:
    @Benno - Uncharted is a tomb raider rip-off which seems really unimpressive- never heard of Demon Souls but sounds like another Japanese button-bash sword game.
    Both statements are false.

    Uncharted feature ancient treasures as their theme but play totally differently. Tomb Raider forte's on exploration, puzzle solving but not so on combat. Uncharted is more about set piece stories and combat.

    Demon's Souls can be defended by the 3000 people that will arrive to ask you just to even attempt to button mash your way through it.

    If this is your way of discerning whether games are good or not, then you must be cutting huge quantities of titles out of your remit under miscomprehension.

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  • Widge Moderator 11 Feb 2013 15:39:58 10,450 posts
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    Benno wrote:
    Hes trolling
    Oh. Oh well.

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